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Richard P

Fri, Feb 12, 2016 1:47 AM

Does permanon contain silicone? As you all know it is almost impossible to
awl grip a boat that has been "waxed" with silicone.

Richard

Does permanon contain silicone? As you all know it is almost impossible to awl grip a boat that has been "waxed" with silicone. Richard

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Rich Gano

Fri, Feb 12, 2016 2:17 AM

No, and it may be removed using a high PH solution like Simple Green
Extreme.

Does permanon contain silicone? As you all know it is almost impossible to
awl grip a boat that has been "waxed" with silicone.

No, and it may be removed using a high PH solution like Simple Green Extreme. > Does permanon contain silicone? As you all know it is almost impossible to > awl grip a boat that has been "waxed" with silicone.

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Steve Bedford

Fri, Feb 12, 2016 1:14 PM

Their website says, "Permanon utilizes waterborne nano-engineered particles of Silicium (14Si) that electrostatically bond to the surface being protected."

Steve Bedford
maxmarineproducts.com
Home of the Super MAX Anchor
M/V No Regrets, Willard 40 FBS
Burgess, VA

Sent from my iPad. Please excuse misused words due to the "auto correct" function.

On Feb 11, 2016, at 9:17 PM, Rich Gano via Trawlers-and-Trawlering trawlers@lists.trawlering.com wrote:

No, and it may be removed using a high PH solution like Simple Green
Extreme.

Does permanon contain silicone? As you all know it is almost impossible to
awl grip a boat that has been "waxed" with silicone.

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Their website says, "Permanon utilizes waterborne nano-engineered particles of Silicium (14Si) that electrostatically bond to the surface being protected." ---------------- Steve Bedford maxmarineproducts.com Home of the Super MAX Anchor M/V No Regrets, Willard 40 FBS Burgess, VA Sent from my iPad. Please excuse misused words due to the "auto correct" function. > On Feb 11, 2016, at 9:17 PM, Rich Gano via Trawlers-and-Trawlering <trawlers@lists.trawlering.com> wrote: > > No, and it may be removed using a high PH solution like Simple Green > Extreme. > >> Does permanon contain silicone? As you all know it is almost impossible to >> awl grip a boat that has been "waxed" with silicone. > > > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers_lists.trawlering.com > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change email address, etc) go to: http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers_lists.trawlering.com > Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World > Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited.

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Steve Sipe

Fri, Feb 12, 2016 2:11 PM

I tried Permanon in July for the 1st time. It's not cheap, but my
experience has been that it is very easy to apply, it DOES make for
easier cleaning, black streaks come off much easier; I can see no
difference in appearance from traditional wax, (I used 3M scotchguard
Marine Wax in the black container). I buffed the gelcoat prior to
application with 3M Finesse-it, then washed with Dawn in a bucket. My
water is softened, so no waterspots, important since if you apply the
permanon over a spotted surface, the spots will become imbedded in the
surface, so as the instructions advise, you end up with the surface you
start with. I can't say it lasts a whole lot longer than wax, I applied
both to different sections, however the Permanon has resisted black
streaking much better than the waxed sections.

I will probably use it again.

On 2/12/2016 8:14 AM, Steve Bedford via Trawlers-and-Trawlering wrote:

Their website says, "Permanon utilizes waterborne nano-engineered particles of Silicium (14Si) that electrostatically bond to the surface being protected."
<snip>

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Steve Sipe
MTOA #3962
Solo 4303 /Maerin/
Lying Ft Lauderdale

I tried Permanon in July for the 1st time. It's not cheap, but my experience has been that it is very easy to apply, it DOES make for easier cleaning, black streaks come off much easier; I can see no difference in appearance from traditional wax, (I used 3M scotchguard Marine Wax in the black container). I buffed the gelcoat prior to application with 3M Finesse-it, then washed with Dawn in a bucket. My water is softened, so no waterspots, important since if you apply the permanon over a spotted surface, the spots will become imbedded in the surface, so as the instructions advise, you end up with the surface you start with. I can't say it lasts a whole lot longer than wax, I applied both to different sections, however the Permanon has resisted black streaking much better than the waxed sections. I will probably use it again. On 2/12/2016 8:14 AM, Steve Bedford via Trawlers-and-Trawlering wrote: > Their website says, "Permanon utilizes waterborne nano-engineered particles of Silicium (14Si) that electrostatically bond to the surface being protected." > <snip> -- ------- Steve Sipe MTOA #3962 Solo 4303 /Maerin/ Lying Ft Lauderdale

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martha@deweybeachlife.com

Fri, Feb 12, 2016 8:32 PM

We used something called Rejex, it lasted all year and is still beading
up the water and looks great. Is it similar to Permanon?

Martha Sweeney
Comptroller
Highway One Limited Partnership
PO Box 507
Dewey Beach, DE 19971
(302) 227-3888

On 2016-02-12 09:11, Steve Sipe via Trawlers-and-Trawlering wrote:

I tried Permanon in July for the 1st time. It's not cheap, but my experience has been that it is very easy to apply, it DOES make for easier cleaning, black streaks come off much easier; I can see no difference in appearance from traditional wax, (I used 3M scotchguard Marine Wax in the black container). I buffed the gelcoat prior to application with 3M Finesse-it, then washed with Dawn in a bucket. My water is softened, so no waterspots, important since if you apply the permanon over a spotted surface, the spots will become imbedded in the surface, so as the instructions advise, you end up with the surface you start with. I can't say it lasts a whole lot longer than wax, I applied both to different sections, however the Permanon has resisted black streaking much better than the waxed sections.

I will probably use it again.

On 2/12/2016 8:14 AM, Steve Bedford via Trawlers-and-Trawlering wrote:

Their website says, "Permanon utilizes waterborne nano-engineered particles of Silicium (14Si) that electrostatically bond to the surface being protected." <snip>

We used something called Rejex, it lasted all year and is still beading up the water and looks great. Is it similar to Permanon? --- Martha Sweeney Comptroller Highway One Limited Partnership PO Box 507 Dewey Beach, DE 19971 (302) 227-3888 On 2016-02-12 09:11, Steve Sipe via Trawlers-and-Trawlering wrote: > I tried Permanon in July for the 1st time. It's not cheap, but my experience has been that it is very easy to apply, it DOES make for easier cleaning, black streaks come off much easier; I can see no difference in appearance from traditional wax, (I used 3M scotchguard Marine Wax in the black container). I buffed the gelcoat prior to application with 3M Finesse-it, then washed with Dawn in a bucket. My water is softened, so no waterspots, important since if you apply the permanon over a spotted surface, the spots will become imbedded in the surface, so as the instructions advise, you end up with the surface you start with. I can't say it lasts a whole lot longer than wax, I applied both to different sections, however the Permanon has resisted black streaking much better than the waxed sections. > > I will probably use it again. > > On 2/12/2016 8:14 AM, Steve Bedford via Trawlers-and-Trawlering wrote: > >> Their website says, "Permanon utilizes waterborne nano-engineered particles of Silicium (14Si) that electrostatically bond to the surface being protected." <snip>