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Charles Culotta told me several years ago, it is very easy
on the one whistle - I am on the right
on the two whistle - I am on the left
Works every time: overtaking or meeting.
Steve Willett
Camano 31
Thibodaux, Louisiana
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Charle's instruction is fine as long as you are clear who'se "right" and
"left" you are referring to (i.e. your own). I have also heard some folks
say:
"Just remember one whistle and the single syllable word "Port", but of
course you must preface this by saying "leave the passed vessel on your
port". This then also works for the dual syllable word star-board (2
syllables = 2 whistles) "leave the passed vessel on your starboard".
However, in my recent Captains class, when these were mentioned, the
instructor was less than enthusiastic (to put it mildly). He reiterated,
rather vociferously, that we should stick to the Coast Guard definitions to
eliminate the "was it my left, his left", or the "was it leave the vessel or
pass the vessel" etc.
He pointed out that what could be easier than:
-- One whistle, steer starboard
-- Two whistles, steer port
Ken Bloomfield
AGCLA
MTOA 2062
SNIP
Charles Culotta told me several years ago, it is very easy
on the one whistle - I am on the right
on the two whistle - I am on the left
Works every time: overtaking or meeting.
He pointed out that what could be easier than:
-- One whistle, steer starboard
-- Two whistles, steer port
Well for me,
-- One whistle leave him on my monosyllable side (port)
-- Two whistles leave him on my bisyllable side (star-board)
Cause sometimes there ain't any steering or veering involved.
Or how about a one-whistle with an approaching vessel during a dogleg to the
left? Here you're turning to port even though you're doing a one-whistle. If
you turn to starboard to do this one-whistle, you'll end up on the rightside
bank.
(any other horses out there we can beat to death?)
-- Jim Ague
Can't say about other horses to beat to death, but as boaters operating some
mighty large and mighty expensive rigs, I'd say the lack of understanding on
this simple topic is appalling. Didn't anyone take any boating education
classes?
TT
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From: "Jim Ague" jim.ague@att.net
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Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 7:15 PM
Subject: Re: GL: whistle signals
Cause sometimes there ain't any steering or veering involved.
Or how about a one-whistle with an approaching vessel during a dogleg to
the
left? Here you're turning to port even though you're doing a one-whistle.
If
you turn to starboard to do this one-whistle, you'll end up on the
rightside
bank.
-- Jim Ague
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Again "two shorts to port"
--- StWillett@aol.com wrote:
Charles Culotta told me several years ago, it is
very easy
on the one whistle - I am on the right
on the two whistle - I am on the left
Works every time: overtaking or meeting.
Steve Willett
Camano 31
Thibodaux, Louisiana
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What is everyone talking about "whistles"? If any TB skipper ever used that term, you simply ask him "You want us on your port or your starboard, skipper?" and then he tells you!
You're talking to him on a VHF, for cryinoutloud, not sounding your horn! You get to ask again! They don't mind!
These guys don't screw around with Mark Twain terminology! They just want to avoid running us over (too much paperwork!) so they tell ya: This side or that side!
I have never had any TB driver ever mention "whistles", even to each other! Why is this subject even a concern?
The saltiest (muddiest?) they ever get is to say pass 'em on their "reds" or "greens" always referring to their own boat, and that's the side you use! Match their light!
It's a non-problem, something you don't have to know obout to navigate the rivers.
Phil Little
Keep your attitude off Chesapeake Bay. The use of the term "whistle" is
common diction on channel 13. Unless they sound collision or are leaving a
slip or going in reverse, you will not hear tugs and ships sound their horns
on the Chesapeake. Channel 13 is the best way, other than AIS for knowing
where shipping is located. They will relate their passing to a nearby buoy
using ARPA on their radars. And, they would like to hear your intentions as
well if in visual range or in fog (usually twice a year on the Bay.)
Ron Rogers
Phil:
I must disagree. In 30 years of cruising the inland rivers and the ICW "one
whistle" or "two whistles" or "see you on the one" etc. has been the
language used.
Ted
Ted Stehle
Cruising & News Editor
Waterway Guide
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Little" plittle2005@yahoo.com
To: captaincarrier@yahoo.com; StWillett@aol.com;
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Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 11:12 PM
Subject: Re: GL: whistle signals - Say What??
What is everyone talking about "whistles"? If any TB skipper ever used
that term, you simply ask him "You want us on your port or your starboard,
skipper?" and then he tells you!
You're talking to him on a VHF, for cryinoutloud, not sounding your horn!
You get to ask again! They don't mind!
These guys don't screw around with Mark Twain terminology! They just want
to avoid running us over (too much paperwork!) so they tell ya: This side
or that side!
I have never had any TB driver ever mention "whistles", even to each
other! Why is this subject even a concern?
The saltiest (muddiest?) they ever get is to say pass 'em on their "reds"
or "greens" always referring to their own boat, and that's the side you
use! Match their light!
It's a non-problem, something you don't have to know obout to navigate
the rivers.
Phil Little
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Phil is correct in both regards - Ask the Tow Boat which side of HIS
RIG he wants you to pass him on. And Yes his answer is referring to
the TOW BOAT not YOURS. Matching their Light is the same as matching
Their (Towboat and Barge Rig) Port or Starboard side.
John
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On Mar 1, 2007, at 11:12 PM, Phil Little wrote: (SNIP)
The saltiest (muddiest?) they ever get is to say pass 'em on
their "reds" or "greens" always referring to their own boat, and
that's the side you use! Match their light!
Sorry!
I'm probably too cavalier in my dismissal of "whistle" vernacular because I always just ask at the first contact: "Towboat Georgia Brown, you want me on your port or your starboard side?" and the TB skipper will come back with that terminology.
Define the radio call in your terms first so they know how to answer you. Then you know exactly what they want you to do.
My travels are limited to the Illinois and the Alabama/Tenn-Tom, both in my own boat and in the pilothouses of towboats. All the skippers I have known really don't want to confuse us amateurs any more than necessary.
Phil Little
John & Judy Gill twojscom@quadnet.net wrote:
Phil is correct in both regards - Ask the Tow Boat which side of HIS
RIG he wants you to pass him on. And Yes his answer is referring to
the TOW BOAT not YOURS. Matching their Light is the same as matching
Their (Towboat and Barge Rig) Port or Starboard side.
John
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On Mar 1, 2007, at 11:12 PM, Phil Little wrote: (SNIP)
The saltiest (muddiest?) they ever get is to say pass 'em on
their "reds" or "greens" always referring to their own boat, and
that's the side you use! Match their light!