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DG

Don Garlick

Fri, Mar 9, 2007 10:37 PM

Hello I need a little help

I bought a Oncore VP board with 8 channels for my Z3801

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250082966589&sspagena
me=ADME:L:RTQ:US:1

Motorola P/N: B8221Z1116

This has a battery in it.

It was tested by the seller by placing in the NMEA mode and left it in
NMEA mode.

Now the board he used to talk to it has failed so he cannot change it
back.

After I could not get it to work I tried draining the battery down to
.07 volts.

I still could not get it to work in the Z3801

Put the old 6 channel back in and it works again

http://gps.garlickfamily.org

Can anyone tell me how to get it out of NMEA and back to binary?

Thank You

Don

Hello I need a little help I bought a Oncore VP board with 8 channels for my Z3801 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250082966589&sspagena me=ADME:L:RTQ:US:1 Motorola P/N: B8221Z1116 This has a battery in it. It was tested by the seller by placing in the NMEA mode and left it in NMEA mode. Now the board he used to talk to it has failed so he cannot change it back. After I could not get it to work I tried draining the battery down to .07 volts. I still could not get it to work in the Z3801 Put the old 6 channel back in and it works again http://gps.garlickfamily.org Can anyone tell me how to get it out of NMEA and back to binary? Thank You Don

T

TheInfamousFlavio (at) hotmail.com

Fri, Mar 9, 2007 11:04 PM

I don't think an 8 channel board will work with a Z3801A.

-Flavio

----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Garlick" DGarlick@garlickfamily.org
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 17:37
Subject: [time-nuts] Need some help with Motorola Oncore VP Back in
Binarymode

Hello I need a little help

I bought a Oncore VP board with 8 channels for my Z3801

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250082966589&sspagena
me=ADME:L:RTQ:US:1

Motorola P/N: B8221Z1116

This has a battery in it.

It was tested by the seller by placing in the NMEA mode and left it in
NMEA mode.

Now the board he used to talk to it has failed so he cannot change it
back.

After I could not get it to work I tried draining the battery down to
.07 volts.

I still could not get it to work in the Z3801

Put the old 6 channel back in and it works again

http://gps.garlickfamily.org

Can anyone tell me how to get it out of NMEA and back to binary?

Thank You

Don

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I don't think an 8 channel board will work with a Z3801A. -Flavio ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Garlick" <DGarlick@garlickfamily.org> To: <time-nuts@febo.com> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 17:37 Subject: [time-nuts] Need some help with Motorola Oncore VP Back in Binarymode > Hello I need a little help > > > > I bought a Oncore VP board with 8 channels for my Z3801 > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250082966589&sspagena > me=ADME:L:RTQ:US:1 > > > > Motorola P/N: B8221Z1116 > > > > This has a battery in it. > > > > It was tested by the seller by placing in the NMEA mode and left it in > NMEA mode. > > Now the board he used to talk to it has failed so he cannot change it > back. > > > > After I could not get it to work I tried draining the battery down to > .07 volts. > > > > I still could not get it to work in the Z3801 > > > > Put the old 6 channel back in and it works again > > > > http://gps.garlickfamily.org > > > > Can anyone tell me how to get it out of NMEA and back to binary? > > > > Thank You > > Don > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list > time-nuts@febo.com > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >

RW

Randy Warner

Fri, Mar 9, 2007 11:33 PM

Don,

Not a problem.

8 channel VP's are capable of sending out 6 channel messages just fine.

Go to Rick Hambly's site: http://www.cnssys.com/Tac32/ and download the
eval copy of SynTaC. Actually, lots of the guys on this group probably have
a copy already. Hook up your receiver and start TaC32. If the serial port is
Com 1 the TaC32 program should start displaying data as soon as the eval
splash screen is gone. If not, go into the <Edit> menu and set up the GPS
interface for the right Com Port request the "Mot Bin" protocol, and then
press <OK>. Tac32 should automatically poll the VP until it figures out what
mode it is in (in your case NMEA) and then flip it to binary. If you have an
antenna plugged in you should see satellite tracking, GPS fixes, etc. If you
look in the lower right hand corner of the main window you should see
something like: Motorola VP, 8 Ch, has DGPS..... I can't remember the actual
wording. By default TaC32 enables the 8 channel @@Ea and @@En messages along
with the @@Bb messages. To switch to 6 channel mode, click on <Data>, <Set
Receiver Parameters>, and under "Special Purpose Modes" select "6-Channel
Mode". When you click on <OK> Tac32 will turn off @@Ea and @@En and turn on
@@Ba and @@Bn. @@Bb will stay the way it is. The lower right hand corner of
the main window should now indicate that you are in 6 channel mode. The
Z3801 should now work fine.

About the battery: Just dragging down the battery will not clear the message
formats on a VP. On the VP's all of the set-up info was stored in EEPROM.
The only way to change things was to overwrite (as we just did here) or
default the receiver with the @@Cf message.

Let me know if you have any problems.

Randy

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Don Garlick
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 2:37 PM
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: [time-nuts] Need some help with Motorola Oncore VP Back in
Binarymode

Hello I need a little help

I bought a Oncore VP board with 8 channels for my Z3801

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250082966589&sspagena
me=ADME:L:RTQ:US:1

Motorola P/N: B8221Z1116

This has a battery in it.

It was tested by the seller by placing in the NMEA mode and left it in
NMEA mode.

Now the board he used to talk to it has failed so he cannot change it
back.

After I could not get it to work I tried draining the battery down to
.07 volts.

I still could not get it to work in the Z3801

Put the old 6 channel back in and it works again

http://gps.garlickfamily.org

Can anyone tell me how to get it out of NMEA and back to binary?

Thank You

Don

time-nuts mailing list
time-nuts@febo.com
https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts

Don, Not a problem. 8 channel VP's are capable of sending out 6 channel messages just fine. Go to Rick Hambly's site: http://www.cnssys.com/Tac32/ and download the eval copy of SynTaC. Actually, lots of the guys on this group probably have a copy already. Hook up your receiver and start TaC32. If the serial port is Com 1 the TaC32 program should start displaying data as soon as the eval splash screen is gone. If not, go into the <Edit> menu and set up the GPS interface for the right Com Port request the "Mot Bin" protocol, and then press <OK>. Tac32 should automatically poll the VP until it figures out what mode it is in (in your case NMEA) and then flip it to binary. If you have an antenna plugged in you should see satellite tracking, GPS fixes, etc. If you look in the lower right hand corner of the main window you should see something like: Motorola VP, 8 Ch, has DGPS..... I can't remember the actual wording. By default TaC32 enables the 8 channel @@Ea and @@En messages along with the @@Bb messages. To switch to 6 channel mode, click on <Data>, <Set Receiver Parameters>, and under "Special Purpose Modes" select "6-Channel Mode". When you click on <OK> Tac32 will turn off @@Ea and @@En and turn on @@Ba and @@Bn. @@Bb will stay the way it is. The lower right hand corner of the main window should now indicate that you are in 6 channel mode. The Z3801 should now work fine. About the battery: Just dragging down the battery will not clear the message formats on a VP. On the VP's all of the set-up info was stored in EEPROM. The only way to change things was to overwrite (as we just did here) or default the receiver with the @@Cf message. Let me know if you have any problems. Randy -----Original Message----- From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Don Garlick Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 2:37 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Need some help with Motorola Oncore VP Back in Binarymode Hello I need a little help I bought a Oncore VP board with 8 channels for my Z3801 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250082966589&sspagena me=ADME:L:RTQ:US:1 Motorola P/N: B8221Z1116 This has a battery in it. It was tested by the seller by placing in the NMEA mode and left it in NMEA mode. Now the board he used to talk to it has failed so he cannot change it back. After I could not get it to work I tried draining the battery down to .07 volts. I still could not get it to work in the Z3801 Put the old 6 channel back in and it works again http://gps.garlickfamily.org Can anyone tell me how to get it out of NMEA and back to binary? Thank You Don _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@febo.com https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts

DG

Don Garlick

Sat, Mar 10, 2007 12:07 AM

I am not sure we are on the same page
I cannot get this to work

The gps board is inside the Z3801A and my computer serial port
is connected to the Z3801A

Will this work communicating through the Z3801A ?

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Randy Warner
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 3:33 PM
To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Need some help with Motorola Oncore VP Back
inBinarymode

Don,

Not a problem.

8 channel VP's are capable of sending out 6 channel messages just fine.

Go to Rick Hambly's site: http://www.cnssys.com/Tac32/ and download the
eval copy of SynTaC. Actually, lots of the guys on this group probably
have
a copy already. Hook up your receiver and start TaC32. If the serial
port is
Com 1 the TaC32 program should start displaying data as soon as the eval
splash screen is gone. If not, go into the <Edit> menu and set up the
GPS
interface for the right Com Port request the "Mot Bin" protocol, and
then
press <OK>. Tac32 should automatically poll the VP until it figures out
what
mode it is in (in your case NMEA) and then flip it to binary. If you
have an
antenna plugged in you should see satellite tracking, GPS fixes, etc. If
you
look in the lower right hand corner of the main window you should see
something like: Motorola VP, 8 Ch, has DGPS..... I can't remember the
actual
wording. By default TaC32 enables the 8 channel @@Ea and @@En messages
along
with the @@Bb messages. To switch to 6 channel mode, click on <Data>,
<Set
Receiver Parameters>, and under "Special Purpose Modes" select
"6-Channel
Mode". When you click on <OK> Tac32 will turn off @@Ea and @@En and turn
on
@@Ba and @@Bn. @@Bb will stay the way it is. The lower right hand corner
of
the main window should now indicate that you are in 6 channel mode. The
Z3801 should now work fine.

About the battery: Just dragging down the battery will not clear the
message
formats on a VP. On the VP's all of the set-up info was stored in
EEPROM.
The only way to change things was to overwrite (as we just did here) or
default the receiver with the @@Cf message.

Let me know if you have any problems.

Randy

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Don Garlick
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 2:37 PM
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: [time-nuts] Need some help with Motorola Oncore VP Back in
Binarymode

Hello I need a little help

I bought a Oncore VP board with 8 channels for my Z3801

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250082966589&sspagena
me=ADME:L:RTQ:US:1

Motorola P/N: B8221Z1116

This has a battery in it.

It was tested by the seller by placing in the NMEA mode and left it in
NMEA mode.

Now the board he used to talk to it has failed so he cannot change it
back.

After I could not get it to work I tried draining the battery down to
.07 volts.

I still could not get it to work in the Z3801

Put the old 6 channel back in and it works again

http://gps.garlickfamily.org

Can anyone tell me how to get it out of NMEA and back to binary?

Thank You

Don

time-nuts mailing list
time-nuts@febo.com
https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts

I am not sure we are on the same page I cannot get this to work The gps board is inside the Z3801A and my computer serial port is connected to the Z3801A Will this work communicating through the Z3801A ? Don -----Original Message----- From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Randy Warner Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 3:33 PM To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Need some help with Motorola Oncore VP Back inBinarymode Don, Not a problem. 8 channel VP's are capable of sending out 6 channel messages just fine. Go to Rick Hambly's site: http://www.cnssys.com/Tac32/ and download the eval copy of SynTaC. Actually, lots of the guys on this group probably have a copy already. Hook up your receiver and start TaC32. If the serial port is Com 1 the TaC32 program should start displaying data as soon as the eval splash screen is gone. If not, go into the <Edit> menu and set up the GPS interface for the right Com Port request the "Mot Bin" protocol, and then press <OK>. Tac32 should automatically poll the VP until it figures out what mode it is in (in your case NMEA) and then flip it to binary. If you have an antenna plugged in you should see satellite tracking, GPS fixes, etc. If you look in the lower right hand corner of the main window you should see something like: Motorola VP, 8 Ch, has DGPS..... I can't remember the actual wording. By default TaC32 enables the 8 channel @@Ea and @@En messages along with the @@Bb messages. To switch to 6 channel mode, click on <Data>, <Set Receiver Parameters>, and under "Special Purpose Modes" select "6-Channel Mode". When you click on <OK> Tac32 will turn off @@Ea and @@En and turn on @@Ba and @@Bn. @@Bb will stay the way it is. The lower right hand corner of the main window should now indicate that you are in 6 channel mode. The Z3801 should now work fine. About the battery: Just dragging down the battery will not clear the message formats on a VP. On the VP's all of the set-up info was stored in EEPROM. The only way to change things was to overwrite (as we just did here) or default the receiver with the @@Cf message. Let me know if you have any problems. Randy -----Original Message----- From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Don Garlick Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 2:37 PM To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Need some help with Motorola Oncore VP Back in Binarymode Hello I need a little help I bought a Oncore VP board with 8 channels for my Z3801 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250082966589&sspagena me=ADME:L:RTQ:US:1 Motorola P/N: B8221Z1116 This has a battery in it. It was tested by the seller by placing in the NMEA mode and left it in NMEA mode. Now the board he used to talk to it has failed so he cannot change it back. After I could not get it to work I tried draining the battery down to .07 volts. I still could not get it to work in the Z3801 Put the old 6 channel back in and it works again http://gps.garlickfamily.org Can anyone tell me how to get it out of NMEA and back to binary? Thank You Don _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@febo.com https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@febo.com https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts

BJ

Bill Jones, K8CU

Sat, Mar 10, 2007 1:02 AM

Don,

Visit this web page for a description of adding a TAC-32 interface to the
Z3801A:

http://www.realhamradio.com/tac32-interface.htm

Bill, K8CU

----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Garlick" DGarlick@garlickfamily.org
To: randy@geodetics.com; "Discussion of precise time and frequency
measurement" time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 12:07 AM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Need some help with Motorola Oncore VP
BackinBinarymode

I am not sure we are on the same page
I cannot get this to work

The gps board is inside the Z3801A and my computer serial port
is connected to the Z3801A

Will this work communicating through the Z3801A ?

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Randy Warner
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 3:33 PM
To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Need some help with Motorola Oncore VP Back
inBinarymode

Don,

Not a problem.

8 channel VP's are capable of sending out 6 channel messages just fine.

Go to Rick Hambly's site: http://www.cnssys.com/Tac32/ and download the
eval copy of SynTaC. Actually, lots of the guys on this group probably
have
a copy already. Hook up your receiver and start TaC32. If the serial
port is
Com 1 the TaC32 program should start displaying data as soon as the eval
splash screen is gone. If not, go into the <Edit> menu and set up the
GPS
interface for the right Com Port request the "Mot Bin" protocol, and
then
press <OK>. Tac32 should automatically poll the VP until it figures out
what
mode it is in (in your case NMEA) and then flip it to binary. If you
have an
antenna plugged in you should see satellite tracking, GPS fixes, etc. If
you
look in the lower right hand corner of the main window you should see
something like: Motorola VP, 8 Ch, has DGPS..... I can't remember the
actual
wording. By default TaC32 enables the 8 channel @@Ea and @@En messages
along
with the @@Bb messages. To switch to 6 channel mode, click on <Data>,
<Set
Receiver Parameters>, and under "Special Purpose Modes" select
"6-Channel
Mode". When you click on <OK> Tac32 will turn off @@Ea and @@En and turn
on
@@Ba and @@Bn. @@Bb will stay the way it is. The lower right hand corner
of
the main window should now indicate that you are in 6 channel mode. The
Z3801 should now work fine.

About the battery: Just dragging down the battery will not clear the
message
formats on a VP. On the VP's all of the set-up info was stored in
EEPROM.
The only way to change things was to overwrite (as we just did here) or
default the receiver with the @@Cf message.

Let me know if you have any problems.

Randy

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Don Garlick
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 2:37 PM
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: [time-nuts] Need some help with Motorola Oncore VP Back in
Binarymode

Hello I need a little help

I bought a Oncore VP board with 8 channels for my Z3801

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250082966589&sspagena
me=ADME:L:RTQ:US:1

Motorola P/N: B8221Z1116

This has a battery in it.

It was tested by the seller by placing in the NMEA mode and left it in
NMEA mode.

Now the board he used to talk to it has failed so he cannot change it
back.

After I could not get it to work I tried draining the battery down to
.07 volts.

I still could not get it to work in the Z3801

Put the old 6 channel back in and it works again

http://gps.garlickfamily.org

Can anyone tell me how to get it out of NMEA and back to binary?

Thank You

Don

time-nuts mailing list
time-nuts@febo.com
https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts

Don, Visit this web page for a description of adding a TAC-32 interface to the Z3801A: http://www.realhamradio.com/tac32-interface.htm Bill, K8CU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Garlick" <DGarlick@garlickfamily.org> To: <randy@geodetics.com>; "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" <time-nuts@febo.com> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 12:07 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Need some help with Motorola Oncore VP BackinBinarymode > I am not sure we are on the same page > I cannot get this to work > > The gps board is inside the Z3801A and my computer serial port > is connected to the Z3801A > > Will this work communicating through the Z3801A ? > > Don > > -----Original Message----- > From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On > Behalf Of Randy Warner > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 3:33 PM > To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Need some help with Motorola Oncore VP Back > inBinarymode > > Don, > > Not a problem. > > 8 channel VP's are capable of sending out 6 channel messages just fine. > > Go to Rick Hambly's site: http://www.cnssys.com/Tac32/ and download the > eval copy of SynTaC. Actually, lots of the guys on this group probably > have > a copy already. Hook up your receiver and start TaC32. If the serial > port is > Com 1 the TaC32 program should start displaying data as soon as the eval > splash screen is gone. If not, go into the <Edit> menu and set up the > GPS > interface for the right Com Port request the "Mot Bin" protocol, and > then > press <OK>. Tac32 should automatically poll the VP until it figures out > what > mode it is in (in your case NMEA) and then flip it to binary. If you > have an > antenna plugged in you should see satellite tracking, GPS fixes, etc. If > you > look in the lower right hand corner of the main window you should see > something like: Motorola VP, 8 Ch, has DGPS..... I can't remember the > actual > wording. By default TaC32 enables the 8 channel @@Ea and @@En messages > along > with the @@Bb messages. To switch to 6 channel mode, click on <Data>, > <Set > Receiver Parameters>, and under "Special Purpose Modes" select > "6-Channel > Mode". When you click on <OK> Tac32 will turn off @@Ea and @@En and turn > on > @@Ba and @@Bn. @@Bb will stay the way it is. The lower right hand corner > of > the main window should now indicate that you are in 6 channel mode. The > Z3801 should now work fine. > > About the battery: Just dragging down the battery will not clear the > message > formats on a VP. On the VP's all of the set-up info was stored in > EEPROM. > The only way to change things was to overwrite (as we just did here) or > default the receiver with the @@Cf message. > > Let me know if you have any problems. > > Randy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On > Behalf Of Don Garlick > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 2:37 PM > To: time-nuts@febo.com > Subject: [time-nuts] Need some help with Motorola Oncore VP Back in > Binarymode > > Hello I need a little help > > > > I bought a Oncore VP board with 8 channels for my Z3801 > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250082966589&sspagena > me=ADME:L:RTQ:US:1 > > > > Motorola P/N: B8221Z1116 > > > > This has a battery in it. > > > > It was tested by the seller by placing in the NMEA mode and left it in > NMEA mode. > > Now the board he used to talk to it has failed so he cannot change it > back. > > > > After I could not get it to work I tried draining the battery down to > .07 volts. > > > > I still could not get it to work in the Z3801 > > > > Put the old 6 channel back in and it works again > > > > http://gps.garlickfamily.org > > > > Can anyone tell me how to get it out of NMEA and back to binary? > > > > Thank You > > Don > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list > time-nuts@febo.com > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list > time-nuts@febo.com > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list > time-nuts@febo.com > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts

DG

Don Garlick

Sat, Mar 10, 2007 1:18 AM

I went there and find receive only connections and this text

TAC-32 can decode the Motorola binary signals to ASCII. This allows you
to examine the results. Note that in this implementation, TAC-32 will
only be operated in a receive only mode and cannot control the GPS
receiver.

The goal is to change a board from NMEA to Binary

Thanks
Don

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Bill Jones, K8CU
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 5:03 PM
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Need some help with Motorola Oncore
VPBackinBinarymode

Don,

Visit this web page for a description of adding a TAC-32 interface to
the
Z3801A:

http://www.realhamradio.com/tac32-interface.htm

Bill, K8CU

----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Garlick" DGarlick@garlickfamily.org
To: randy@geodetics.com; "Discussion of precise time and frequency
measurement" time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 12:07 AM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Need some help with Motorola Oncore VP
BackinBinarymode

I am not sure we are on the same page
I cannot get this to work

The gps board is inside the Z3801A and my computer serial port
is connected to the Z3801A

Will this work communicating through the Z3801A ?

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com]

On

Behalf Of Randy Warner
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 3:33 PM
To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Need some help with Motorola Oncore VP Back
inBinarymode

Don,

Not a problem.

8 channel VP's are capable of sending out 6 channel messages just

fine.

Go to Rick Hambly's site: http://www.cnssys.com/Tac32/ and download

the

eval copy of SynTaC. Actually, lots of the guys on this group probably
have
a copy already. Hook up your receiver and start TaC32. If the serial
port is
Com 1 the TaC32 program should start displaying data as soon as the

eval

splash screen is gone. If not, go into the <Edit> menu and set up the
GPS
interface for the right Com Port request the "Mot Bin" protocol, and
then
press <OK>. Tac32 should automatically poll the VP until it figures

out

what
mode it is in (in your case NMEA) and then flip it to binary. If you
have an
antenna plugged in you should see satellite tracking, GPS fixes, etc.

If

you
look in the lower right hand corner of the main window you should see
something like: Motorola VP, 8 Ch, has DGPS..... I can't remember the
actual
wording. By default TaC32 enables the 8 channel @@Ea and @@En messages
along
with the @@Bb messages. To switch to 6 channel mode, click on <Data>,
<Set
Receiver Parameters>, and under "Special Purpose Modes" select
"6-Channel
Mode". When you click on <OK> Tac32 will turn off @@Ea and @@En and

turn

on
@@Ba and @@Bn. @@Bb will stay the way it is. The lower right hand

corner

of
the main window should now indicate that you are in 6 channel mode.

The

Z3801 should now work fine.

About the battery: Just dragging down the battery will not clear the
message
formats on a VP. On the VP's all of the set-up info was stored in
EEPROM.
The only way to change things was to overwrite (as we just did here)

or

default the receiver with the @@Cf message.

Let me know if you have any problems.

Randy

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com]

On

Behalf Of Don Garlick
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 2:37 PM
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: [time-nuts] Need some help with Motorola Oncore VP Back in
Binarymode

Hello I need a little help

I bought a Oncore VP board with 8 channels for my Z3801

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250082966589&sspagena

me=ADME:L:RTQ:US:1

Motorola P/N: B8221Z1116

This has a battery in it.

It was tested by the seller by placing in the NMEA mode and left it in
NMEA mode.

Now the board he used to talk to it has failed so he cannot change it
back.

After I could not get it to work I tried draining the battery down to
.07 volts.

I still could not get it to work in the Z3801

Put the old 6 channel back in and it works again

http://gps.garlickfamily.org

Can anyone tell me how to get it out of NMEA and back to binary?

Thank You

Don

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I went there and find receive only connections and this text TAC-32 can decode the Motorola binary signals to ASCII. This allows you to examine the results. Note that in this implementation, TAC-32 will only be operated in a receive only mode and cannot control the GPS receiver. The goal is to change a board from NMEA to Binary Thanks Don -----Original Message----- From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bill Jones, K8CU Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 5:03 PM To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Need some help with Motorola Oncore VPBackinBinarymode Don, Visit this web page for a description of adding a TAC-32 interface to the Z3801A: http://www.realhamradio.com/tac32-interface.htm Bill, K8CU ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don Garlick" <DGarlick@garlickfamily.org> To: <randy@geodetics.com>; "Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement" <time-nuts@febo.com> Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 12:07 AM Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Need some help with Motorola Oncore VP BackinBinarymode > I am not sure we are on the same page > I cannot get this to work > > The gps board is inside the Z3801A and my computer serial port > is connected to the Z3801A > > Will this work communicating through the Z3801A ? > > Don > > -----Original Message----- > From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On > Behalf Of Randy Warner > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 3:33 PM > To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Need some help with Motorola Oncore VP Back > inBinarymode > > Don, > > Not a problem. > > 8 channel VP's are capable of sending out 6 channel messages just fine. > > Go to Rick Hambly's site: http://www.cnssys.com/Tac32/ and download the > eval copy of SynTaC. Actually, lots of the guys on this group probably > have > a copy already. Hook up your receiver and start TaC32. If the serial > port is > Com 1 the TaC32 program should start displaying data as soon as the eval > splash screen is gone. If not, go into the <Edit> menu and set up the > GPS > interface for the right Com Port request the "Mot Bin" protocol, and > then > press <OK>. Tac32 should automatically poll the VP until it figures out > what > mode it is in (in your case NMEA) and then flip it to binary. If you > have an > antenna plugged in you should see satellite tracking, GPS fixes, etc. If > you > look in the lower right hand corner of the main window you should see > something like: Motorola VP, 8 Ch, has DGPS..... I can't remember the > actual > wording. By default TaC32 enables the 8 channel @@Ea and @@En messages > along > with the @@Bb messages. To switch to 6 channel mode, click on <Data>, > <Set > Receiver Parameters>, and under "Special Purpose Modes" select > "6-Channel > Mode". When you click on <OK> Tac32 will turn off @@Ea and @@En and turn > on > @@Ba and @@Bn. @@Bb will stay the way it is. The lower right hand corner > of > the main window should now indicate that you are in 6 channel mode. The > Z3801 should now work fine. > > About the battery: Just dragging down the battery will not clear the > message > formats on a VP. On the VP's all of the set-up info was stored in > EEPROM. > The only way to change things was to overwrite (as we just did here) or > default the receiver with the @@Cf message. > > Let me know if you have any problems. > > Randy > > > -----Original Message----- > From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On > Behalf Of Don Garlick > Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 2:37 PM > To: time-nuts@febo.com > Subject: [time-nuts] Need some help with Motorola Oncore VP Back in > Binarymode > > Hello I need a little help > > > > I bought a Oncore VP board with 8 channels for my Z3801 > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250082966589&sspagena > me=ADME:L:RTQ:US:1 > > > > Motorola P/N: B8221Z1116 > > > > This has a battery in it. > > > > It was tested by the seller by placing in the NMEA mode and left it in > NMEA mode. > > Now the board he used to talk to it has failed so he cannot change it > back. > > > > After I could not get it to work I tried draining the battery down to > .07 volts. > > > > I still could not get it to work in the Z3801 > > > > Put the old 6 channel back in and it works again > > > > http://gps.garlickfamily.org > > > > Can anyone tell me how to get it out of NMEA and back to binary? > > > > Thank You > > Don > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list > time-nuts@febo.com > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list > time-nuts@febo.com > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list > time-nuts@febo.com > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@febo.com https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts

BK

Brian Kirby

Sat, Mar 10, 2007 1:24 AM

This is a receive only interface, (Bill K8CU web pages) to monitor the
Oncore receiver (something I designed a while back to play around with).

The program that Randy informed you of, TAC32, will communicate with the
receiver and you will be able to change the unit to a 6 channel
operation, which is what the Z3801A expects.

Motorola had several versions of Oncores, and the one used in the Z3801A
was a 6 channel unit. The 8 channel unit will work fine in the Z3801A,
but you have to tell it to be a 6 channel unit.

You do need an interface that will fully communicate with the receiver.
Its attached.

Brian N4FMN

Bill Jones, K8CU wrote:

Don,

Visit this web page for a description of adding a TAC-32 interface to the
Z3801A:

http://www.realhamradio.com/tac32-interface.htm

Bill, K8CU

----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Garlick" DGarlick@garlickfamily.org
To: randy@geodetics.com; "Discussion of precise time and frequency
measurement" time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 12:07 AM
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Need some help with Motorola Oncore VP
BackinBinarymode

I am not sure we are on the same page
I cannot get this to work

The gps board is inside the Z3801A and my computer serial port
is connected to the Z3801A

Will this work communicating through the Z3801A ?

Don

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Randy Warner
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 3:33 PM
To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Need some help with Motorola Oncore VP Back
inBinarymode

Don,

Not a problem.

8 channel VP's are capable of sending out 6 channel messages just fine.

Go to Rick Hambly's site: http://www.cnssys.com/Tac32/ and download the
eval copy of SynTaC. Actually, lots of the guys on this group probably
have
a copy already. Hook up your receiver and start TaC32. If the serial
port is
Com 1 the TaC32 program should start displaying data as soon as the eval
splash screen is gone. If not, go into the <Edit> menu and set up the
GPS
interface for the right Com Port request the "Mot Bin" protocol, and
then
press <OK>. Tac32 should automatically poll the VP until it figures out
what
mode it is in (in your case NMEA) and then flip it to binary. If you
have an
antenna plugged in you should see satellite tracking, GPS fixes, etc. If
you
look in the lower right hand corner of the main window you should see
something like: Motorola VP, 8 Ch, has DGPS..... I can't remember the
actual
wording. By default TaC32 enables the 8 channel @@Ea and @@En messages
along
with the @@Bb messages. To switch to 6 channel mode, click on <Data>,
<Set
Receiver Parameters>, and under "Special Purpose Modes" select
"6-Channel
Mode". When you click on <OK> Tac32 will turn off @@Ea and @@En and turn
on
@@Ba and @@Bn. @@Bb will stay the way it is. The lower right hand corner
of
the main window should now indicate that you are in 6 channel mode. The
Z3801 should now work fine.

About the battery: Just dragging down the battery will not clear the
message
formats on a VP. On the VP's all of the set-up info was stored in
EEPROM.
The only way to change things was to overwrite (as we just did here) or
default the receiver with the @@Cf message.

Let me know if you have any problems.

Randy

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Don Garlick
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 2:37 PM
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: [time-nuts] Need some help with Motorola Oncore VP Back in
Binarymode

Hello I need a little help

I bought a Oncore VP board with 8 channels for my Z3801

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250082966589&sspagena
me=ADME:L:RTQ:US:1

Motorola P/N: B8221Z1116

This has a battery in it.

It was tested by the seller by placing in the NMEA mode and left it in
NMEA mode.

Now the board he used to talk to it has failed so he cannot change it
back.

After I could not get it to work I tried draining the battery down to
.07 volts.

I still could not get it to work in the Z3801

Put the old 6 channel back in and it works again

http://gps.garlickfamily.org

Can anyone tell me how to get it out of NMEA and back to binary?

Thank You

Don

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This is a receive only interface, (Bill K8CU web pages) to monitor the Oncore receiver (something I designed a while back to play around with). The program that Randy informed you of, TAC32, will communicate with the receiver and you will be able to change the unit to a 6 channel operation, which is what the Z3801A expects. Motorola had several versions of Oncores, and the one used in the Z3801A was a 6 channel unit. The 8 channel unit will work fine in the Z3801A, but you have to tell it to be a 6 channel unit. You do need an interface that will fully communicate with the receiver. Its attached. Brian N4FMN Bill Jones, K8CU wrote: > Don, > > Visit this web page for a description of adding a TAC-32 interface to the > Z3801A: > > http://www.realhamradio.com/tac32-interface.htm > > Bill, K8CU > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Don Garlick" <DGarlick@garlickfamily.org> > To: <randy@geodetics.com>; "Discussion of precise time and frequency > measurement" <time-nuts@febo.com> > Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 12:07 AM > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Need some help with Motorola Oncore VP > BackinBinarymode > > >> I am not sure we are on the same page >> I cannot get this to work >> >> The gps board is inside the Z3801A and my computer serial port >> is connected to the Z3801A >> >> Will this work communicating through the Z3801A ? >> >> Don >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On >> Behalf Of Randy Warner >> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 3:33 PM >> To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' >> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Need some help with Motorola Oncore VP Back >> inBinarymode >> >> Don, >> >> Not a problem. >> >> 8 channel VP's are capable of sending out 6 channel messages just fine. >> >> Go to Rick Hambly's site: http://www.cnssys.com/Tac32/ and download the >> eval copy of SynTaC. Actually, lots of the guys on this group probably >> have >> a copy already. Hook up your receiver and start TaC32. If the serial >> port is >> Com 1 the TaC32 program should start displaying data as soon as the eval >> splash screen is gone. If not, go into the <Edit> menu and set up the >> GPS >> interface for the right Com Port request the "Mot Bin" protocol, and >> then >> press <OK>. Tac32 should automatically poll the VP until it figures out >> what >> mode it is in (in your case NMEA) and then flip it to binary. If you >> have an >> antenna plugged in you should see satellite tracking, GPS fixes, etc. If >> you >> look in the lower right hand corner of the main window you should see >> something like: Motorola VP, 8 Ch, has DGPS..... I can't remember the >> actual >> wording. By default TaC32 enables the 8 channel @@Ea and @@En messages >> along >> with the @@Bb messages. To switch to 6 channel mode, click on <Data>, >> <Set >> Receiver Parameters>, and under "Special Purpose Modes" select >> "6-Channel >> Mode". When you click on <OK> Tac32 will turn off @@Ea and @@En and turn >> on >> @@Ba and @@Bn. @@Bb will stay the way it is. The lower right hand corner >> of >> the main window should now indicate that you are in 6 channel mode. The >> Z3801 should now work fine. >> >> About the battery: Just dragging down the battery will not clear the >> message >> formats on a VP. On the VP's all of the set-up info was stored in >> EEPROM. >> The only way to change things was to overwrite (as we just did here) or >> default the receiver with the @@Cf message. >> >> Let me know if you have any problems. >> >> Randy >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On >> Behalf Of Don Garlick >> Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 2:37 PM >> To: time-nuts@febo.com >> Subject: [time-nuts] Need some help with Motorola Oncore VP Back in >> Binarymode >> >> Hello I need a little help >> >> >> >> I bought a Oncore VP board with 8 channels for my Z3801 >> >> >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250082966589&sspagena >> me=ADME:L:RTQ:US:1 >> >> >> >> Motorola P/N: B8221Z1116 >> >> >> >> This has a battery in it. >> >> >> >> It was tested by the seller by placing in the NMEA mode and left it in >> NMEA mode. >> >> Now the board he used to talk to it has failed so he cannot change it >> back. >> >> >> >> After I could not get it to work I tried draining the battery down to >> .07 volts. >> >> >> >> I still could not get it to work in the Z3801 >> >> >> >> Put the old 6 channel back in and it works again >> >> >> >> http://gps.garlickfamily.org >> >> >> >> Can anyone tell me how to get it out of NMEA and back to binary? >> >> >> >> Thank You >> >> Don >> >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list >> time-nuts@febo.com >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list >> time-nuts@febo.com >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >> >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list >> time-nuts@febo.com >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list > time-nuts@febo.com > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts >

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