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FileLink for WebDAV – real-world testing wanted

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Geoff Lankow
Mon, May 27, 2019 1:25 AM

I've created a FileLink provider extension for WebDAV, which could be
useful for a lot of Thunderbird users. However, I don't use WebDAV and
have only tested it against a Docker container.

As there's many different WebDAV servers out there, I'd like to get some
people testing it in real situations before I finish the UI and remove
the "experimental" flag.

https://addons.thunderbird.net/thunderbird/addon/filelink-provider-for-webdav/

https://github.com/darktrojan/dav/issues

GL

I've created a FileLink provider extension for WebDAV, which could be useful for a lot of Thunderbird users. However, I don't use WebDAV and have only tested it against a Docker container. As there's many different WebDAV servers out there, I'd like to get some people testing it in real situations before I finish the UI and remove the "experimental" flag. https://addons.thunderbird.net/thunderbird/addon/filelink-provider-for-webdav/ https://github.com/darktrojan/dav/issues GL
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Philipp Kewisch
Mon, May 27, 2019 5:50 AM

Hey Geoff,

any reason you didn't fork/improve https://github.com/kewisch/filelink-webdav ? Check out the webextension branch.

Philipp

On 27. May 2019, at 3:25 AM, Geoff Lankow geoff@thunderbird.net wrote:

I've created a FileLink provider extension for WebDAV, which could be useful for a lot of Thunderbird users. However, I don't use WebDAV and have only tested it against a Docker container.

As there's many different WebDAV servers out there, I'd like to get some people testing it in real situations before I finish the UI and remove the "experimental" flag.

https://addons.thunderbird.net/thunderbird/addon/filelink-provider-for-webdav/

https://github.com/darktrojan/dav/issues

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Hey Geoff, any reason you didn't fork/improve https://github.com/kewisch/filelink-webdav ? Check out the webextension branch. Philipp > On 27. May 2019, at 3:25 AM, Geoff Lankow <geoff@thunderbird.net> wrote: > > I've created a FileLink provider extension for WebDAV, which could be useful for a lot of Thunderbird users. However, I don't use WebDAV and have only tested it against a Docker container. > > As there's many different WebDAV servers out there, I'd like to get some people testing it in real situations before I finish the UI and remove the "experimental" flag. > > https://addons.thunderbird.net/thunderbird/addon/filelink-provider-for-webdav/ > > https://github.com/darktrojan/dav/issues > > GL > > > _______________________________________________ > Maildev mailing list > Maildev@lists.thunderbird.net > http://lists.thunderbird.net/mailman/listinfo/maildev_lists.thunderbird.net
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Geoff Lankow
Mon, May 27, 2019 8:12 AM

I actually looked at the code of that extension to see what I would need
to do, got distracted by how easy it was and just did the whole thing. I
never got back there to notice there was development going on. Oops!

Oh well, we have two now, and two is better than none. Unless you wish
to combine them somehow, which I'm okay with.

GL

On 27/05/19 17:50, Philipp Kewisch wrote:

Hey Geoff,

any reason you didn't fork/improve
https://github.com/kewisch/filelink-webdav ? Check out the
webextension branch.

Philipp

On 27. May 2019, at 3:25 AM, Geoff Lankow <geoff@thunderbird.net
mailto:geoff@thunderbird.net> wrote:

I've created a FileLink provider extension for WebDAV, which could be
useful for a lot of Thunderbird users. However, I don't use WebDAV
and have only tested it against a Docker container.

As there's many different WebDAV servers out there, I'd like to get
some people testing it in real situations before I finish the UI and
remove the "experimental" flag.

https://addons.thunderbird.net/thunderbird/addon/filelink-provider-for-webdav/

https://github.com/darktrojan/dav/issues

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I actually looked at the code of that extension to see what I would need to do, got distracted by how easy it was and just did the whole thing. I never got back there to notice there was development going on. Oops! Oh well, we have two now, and two is better than none. Unless you wish to combine them somehow, which I'm okay with. GL On 27/05/19 17:50, Philipp Kewisch wrote: > Hey Geoff, > > any reason you didn't fork/improve > https://github.com/kewisch/filelink-webdav ? Check out the > webextension branch. > > Philipp > > On 27. May 2019, at 3:25 AM, Geoff Lankow <geoff@thunderbird.net > <mailto:geoff@thunderbird.net>> wrote: > >> I've created a FileLink provider extension for WebDAV, which could be >> useful for a lot of Thunderbird users. However, I don't use WebDAV >> and have only tested it against a Docker container. >> >> As there's many different WebDAV servers out there, I'd like to get >> some people testing it in real situations before I finish the UI and >> remove the "experimental" flag. >> >> https://addons.thunderbird.net/thunderbird/addon/filelink-provider-for-webdav/ >> >> https://github.com/darktrojan/dav/issues >> >> GL >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Maildev mailing list >> Maildev@lists.thunderbird.net <mailto:Maildev@lists.thunderbird.net> >> http://lists.thunderbird.net/mailman/listinfo/maildev_lists.thunderbird.net
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Philipp Kewisch
Mon, May 27, 2019 11:43 AM

I think it would be great if we could combine them. I'm sure your add-on
has a few things in it that mine would benefit from and vice versa. I'm
happy to add you as an author, and I think Magnus was also considering
making it part of core code.

Philipp

On 5/27/19 10:12 AM, Geoff Lankow wrote:

I actually looked at the code of that extension to see what I would
need to do, got distracted by how easy it was and just did the whole
thing. I never got back there to notice there was development going
on. Oops!

Oh well, we have two now, and two is better than none. Unless you wish
to combine them somehow, which I'm okay with.

GL

On 27/05/19 17:50, Philipp Kewisch wrote:

Hey Geoff,

any reason you didn't
fork/improve https://github.com/kewisch/filelink-webdav ? Check out
the webextension branch.

Philipp 

On 27. May 2019, at 3:25 AM, Geoff Lankow <geoff@thunderbird.net
mailto:geoff@thunderbird.net> wrote:

I've created a FileLink provider extension for WebDAV, which could
be useful for a lot of Thunderbird users. However, I don't use
WebDAV and have only tested it against a Docker container.

As there's many different WebDAV servers out there, I'd like to get
some people testing it in real situations before I finish the UI and
remove the "experimental" flag.

https://addons.thunderbird.net/thunderbird/addon/filelink-provider-for-webdav/

https://github.com/darktrojan/dav/issues

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I think it would be great if we could combine them. I'm sure your add-on has a few things in it that mine would benefit from and vice versa. I'm happy to add you as an author, and I think Magnus was also considering making it part of core code. Philipp On 5/27/19 10:12 AM, Geoff Lankow wrote: > > I actually looked at the code of that extension to see what I would > need to do, got distracted by how easy it was and just did the whole > thing. I never got back there to notice there was development going > on. Oops! > > Oh well, we have two now, and two is better than none. Unless you wish > to combine them somehow, which I'm okay with. > > GL > > > On 27/05/19 17:50, Philipp Kewisch wrote: >> Hey Geoff, >> >> any reason you didn't >> fork/improve https://github.com/kewisch/filelink-webdav ? Check out >> the webextension branch. >> >> Philipp  >> >> On 27. May 2019, at 3:25 AM, Geoff Lankow <geoff@thunderbird.net >> <mailto:geoff@thunderbird.net>> wrote: >> >>> I've created a FileLink provider extension for WebDAV, which could >>> be useful for a lot of Thunderbird users. However, I don't use >>> WebDAV and have only tested it against a Docker container. >>> >>> As there's many different WebDAV servers out there, I'd like to get >>> some people testing it in real situations before I finish the UI and >>> remove the "experimental" flag. >>> >>> https://addons.thunderbird.net/thunderbird/addon/filelink-provider-for-webdav/ >>> >>> https://github.com/darktrojan/dav/issues >>> >>> GL >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Maildev mailing list >>> Maildev@lists.thunderbird.net <mailto:Maildev@lists.thunderbird.net> >>> http://lists.thunderbird.net/mailman/listinfo/maildev_lists.thunderbird.net
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Ryan Sipes
Wed, May 29, 2019 4:34 PM

I think Magnus was also considering making it part of core code.

We had discussed WebDAV file management and linking as useful tools that
would fit well with Thunderbird's vision. Many providers offer WebDAV
file support - but, in my experience, the client support is wanting.

Ryan Sipes
Community and Business Development Manager
Thunderbird https://thunderbird.net

On 5/27/19 5:43 AM, Philipp Kewisch wrote:

I think it would be great if we could combine them. I'm sure your
add-on has a few things in it that mine would benefit from and vice
versa. I'm happy to add you as an author, and I think Magnus was also
considering making it part of core code.

Philipp

On 5/27/19 10:12 AM, Geoff Lankow wrote:

I actually looked at the code of that extension to see what I would
need to do, got distracted by how easy it was and just did the whole
thing. I never got back there to notice there was development going
on. Oops!

Oh well, we have two now, and two is better than none. Unless you
wish to combine them somehow, which I'm okay with.

GL

On 27/05/19 17:50, Philipp Kewisch wrote:

Hey Geoff,

any reason you didn't
fork/improve https://github.com/kewisch/filelink-webdav ? Check out
the webextension branch.

Philipp 

On 27. May 2019, at 3:25 AM, Geoff Lankow <geoff@thunderbird.net
mailto:geoff@thunderbird.net> wrote:

I've created a FileLink provider extension for WebDAV, which could
be useful for a lot of Thunderbird users. However, I don't use
WebDAV and have only tested it against a Docker container.

As there's many different WebDAV servers out there, I'd like to get
some people testing it in real situations before I finish the UI
and remove the "experimental" flag.

https://addons.thunderbird.net/thunderbird/addon/filelink-provider-for-webdav/

https://github.com/darktrojan/dav/issues

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> I think Magnus was also considering making it part of core code. We had discussed WebDAV file management and linking as useful tools that would fit well with Thunderbird's vision. Many providers offer WebDAV file support - but, in my experience, the client support is wanting. Ryan Sipes Community and Business Development Manager Thunderbird <https://thunderbird.net> On 5/27/19 5:43 AM, Philipp Kewisch wrote: > I think it would be great if we could combine them. I'm sure your > add-on has a few things in it that mine would benefit from and vice > versa. I'm happy to add you as an author, and I think Magnus was also > considering making it part of core code. > > Philipp > > On 5/27/19 10:12 AM, Geoff Lankow wrote: >> >> I actually looked at the code of that extension to see what I would >> need to do, got distracted by how easy it was and just did the whole >> thing. I never got back there to notice there was development going >> on. Oops! >> >> Oh well, we have two now, and two is better than none. Unless you >> wish to combine them somehow, which I'm okay with. >> >> GL >> >> >> On 27/05/19 17:50, Philipp Kewisch wrote: >>> Hey Geoff, >>> >>> any reason you didn't >>> fork/improve https://github.com/kewisch/filelink-webdav ? Check out >>> the webextension branch. >>> >>> Philipp  >>> >>> On 27. May 2019, at 3:25 AM, Geoff Lankow <geoff@thunderbird.net >>> <mailto:geoff@thunderbird.net>> wrote: >>> >>>> I've created a FileLink provider extension for WebDAV, which could >>>> be useful for a lot of Thunderbird users. However, I don't use >>>> WebDAV and have only tested it against a Docker container. >>>> >>>> As there's many different WebDAV servers out there, I'd like to get >>>> some people testing it in real situations before I finish the UI >>>> and remove the "experimental" flag. >>>> >>>> https://addons.thunderbird.net/thunderbird/addon/filelink-provider-for-webdav/ >>>> >>>> https://github.com/darktrojan/dav/issues >>>> >>>> GL >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Maildev mailing list >>>> Maildev@lists.thunderbird.net <mailto:Maildev@lists.thunderbird.net> >>>> http://lists.thunderbird.net/mailman/listinfo/maildev_lists.thunderbird.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > Maildev mailing list > Maildev@lists.thunderbird.net > http://lists.thunderbird.net/mailman/listinfo/maildev_lists.thunderbird.net
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Ben Bucksch
Wed, May 29, 2019 4:48 PM

gmx.de and web.de are freemail providers (actually the same company) and
have WebDAV. They are also good test-cases, because they are one of the
biggest ISPs among Thunderbird users.

Geoff Lankow wrote on 27.05.19 03:25:

I've created a FileLink provider extension for WebDAV, which could be
useful for a lot of Thunderbird users. However, I don't use WebDAV and
have only tested it against a Docker container.

As there's many different WebDAV servers out there, I'd like to get
some people testing it in real situations before I finish the UI and
remove the "experimental" flag.

https://addons.thunderbird.net/thunderbird/addon/filelink-provider-for-webdav/

https://github.com/darktrojan/dav/issues

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gmx.de and web.de are freemail providers (actually the same company) and have WebDAV. They are also good test-cases, because they are one of the biggest ISPs among Thunderbird users. Geoff Lankow wrote on 27.05.19 03:25: > I've created a FileLink provider extension for WebDAV, which could be > useful for a lot of Thunderbird users. However, I don't use WebDAV and > have only tested it against a Docker container. > > As there's many different WebDAV servers out there, I'd like to get > some people testing it in real situations before I finish the UI and > remove the "experimental" flag. > > https://addons.thunderbird.net/thunderbird/addon/filelink-provider-for-webdav/ > > > https://github.com/darktrojan/dav/issues > > GL > > > _______________________________________________ > Maildev mailing list > Maildev@lists.thunderbird.net > http://lists.thunderbird.net/mailman/listinfo/maildev_lists.thunderbird.net > >
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Ben Bucksch
Wed, May 29, 2019 4:49 PM

+1 for integrating into core.

It's a IETF standard protocol and supported by several different providers.

Ryan Sipes wrote on 29.05.19 18:34:

I think Magnus was also considering making it part of core code.

We had discussed WebDAV file management and linking as useful tools that would fit well with Thunderbird's vision. Many providers offer WebDAV file support - but, in my experience, the client support is wanting.
Ryan Sipes
Community and Business Development Manager
Thunderbird

On 5/27/19 5:43 AM, Philipp Kewisch wrote:

I think it would be great if we could combine them. I'm sure your add-on has a few things in it that mine would benefit from and vice versa. I'm happy to add you as an author, and I think Magnus was also considering making it part of core code.

Philipp

On 5/27/19 10:12 AM, Geoff Lankow wrote:

I actually looked at the code of that extension to see what I would need to do, got distracted by how easy it was and just did the whole thing. I never got back there to notice there was development going on. Oops!

Oh well, we have two now, and two is better than none. Unless you wish to combine them somehow, which I'm okay with.

GL

On 27/05/19 17:50, Philipp Kewisch wrote:

Hey Geoff,

any reason you didn't fork/improve https://github.com/kewisch/filelink-webdav ? Check out the webextension branch.

Philipp

On 27. May 2019, at 3:25 AM, Geoff Lankow <geoff@thunderbird.net> wrote:

I've created a FileLink provider extension for WebDAV, which could be useful for a lot of Thunderbird users. However, I don't use WebDAV and have only tested it against a Docker container.

As there's many different WebDAV servers out there, I'd like to get some people testing it in real situations before I finish the UI and remove the "experimental" flag.

https://addons.thunderbird.net/thunderbird/addon/filelink-provider-for-webdav/

https://github.com/darktrojan/dav/issues

GL

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Magnus Melin
Wed, May 29, 2019 7:27 PM

Indeed - tracking integrating it in
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1532957

I think it is a useful standard that can help avoid pushing companies
into closed solutions. This way they can use file sharing without vendor
lock-in. WeTransfer is great for many end users, but companies often
want more control than that.

 -Magnus

On 27-05-2019 14:43, Philipp Kewisch wrote:

I think it would be great if we could combine them. I'm sure your
add-on has a few things in it that mine would benefit from and vice
versa. I'm happy to add you as an author, and I think Magnus was also
considering making it part of core code.

Philipp

On 5/27/19 10:12 AM, Geoff Lankow wrote:

I actually looked at the code of that extension to see what I would
need to do, got distracted by how easy it was and just did the whole
thing. I never got back there to notice there was development going
on. Oops!

Oh well, we have two now, and two is better than none. Unless you
wish to combine them somehow, which I'm okay with.

GL

On 27/05/19 17:50, Philipp Kewisch wrote:

Hey Geoff,

any reason you didn't fork/improve
https://github.com/kewisch/filelink-webdav ? Check out the
webextension branch.

Philipp

On 27. May 2019, at 3:25 AM, Geoff Lankow <geoff@thunderbird.net
mailto:geoff@thunderbird.net> wrote:

I've created a FileLink provider extension for WebDAV, which could
be useful for a lot of Thunderbird users. However, I don't use
WebDAV and have only tested it against a Docker container.

As there's many different WebDAV servers out there, I'd like to get
some people testing it in real situations before I finish the UI
and remove the "experimental" flag.

https://addons.thunderbird.net/thunderbird/addon/filelink-provider-for-webdav/

https://github.com/darktrojan/dav/issues

GL


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Indeed - tracking integrating it in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1532957 I think it is a useful standard that can help avoid pushing companies into closed solutions. This way they can use file sharing without vendor lock-in. WeTransfer is great for many end users, but companies often want more control than that.  -Magnus On 27-05-2019 14:43, Philipp Kewisch wrote: > I think it would be great if we could combine them. I'm sure your > add-on has a few things in it that mine would benefit from and vice > versa. I'm happy to add you as an author, and I think Magnus was also > considering making it part of core code. > > Philipp > > On 5/27/19 10:12 AM, Geoff Lankow wrote: >> >> I actually looked at the code of that extension to see what I would >> need to do, got distracted by how easy it was and just did the whole >> thing. I never got back there to notice there was development going >> on. Oops! >> >> Oh well, we have two now, and two is better than none. Unless you >> wish to combine them somehow, which I'm okay with. >> >> GL >> >> >> On 27/05/19 17:50, Philipp Kewisch wrote: >>> Hey Geoff, >>> >>> any reason you didn't fork/improve >>> https://github.com/kewisch/filelink-webdav ? Check out the >>> webextension branch. >>> >>> Philipp >>> >>> On 27. May 2019, at 3:25 AM, Geoff Lankow <geoff@thunderbird.net >>> <mailto:geoff@thunderbird.net>> wrote: >>> >>>> I've created a FileLink provider extension for WebDAV, which could >>>> be useful for a lot of Thunderbird users. However, I don't use >>>> WebDAV and have only tested it against a Docker container. >>>> >>>> As there's many different WebDAV servers out there, I'd like to get >>>> some people testing it in real situations before I finish the UI >>>> and remove the "experimental" flag. >>>> >>>> https://addons.thunderbird.net/thunderbird/addon/filelink-provider-for-webdav/ >>>> >>>> https://github.com/darktrojan/dav/issues >>>> >>>> GL >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Maildev mailing list >>>> Maildev@lists.thunderbird.net <mailto:Maildev@lists.thunderbird.net> >>>> http://lists.thunderbird.net/mailman/listinfo/maildev_lists.thunderbird.net > > > > _______________________________________________ > Maildev mailing list > Maildev@lists.thunderbird.net > http://lists.thunderbird.net/mailman/listinfo/maildev_lists.thunderbird.net
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Bardot Jérôme
Thu, May 30, 2019 3:08 PM

https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/nextcloud-filelink/

Use webdav too no ?

Le 29/05/2019 à 21:27, Magnus Melin a écrit :

Indeed - tracking integrating it in
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1532957

I think it is a useful standard that can help avoid pushing companies
into closed solutions. This way they can use file sharing without
vendor lock-in. WeTransfer is great for many end users, but companies
often want more control than that.

 -Magnus

On 27-05-2019 14:43, Philipp Kewisch wrote:

I think it would be great if we could combine them. I'm sure your
add-on has a few things in it that mine would benefit from and vice
versa. I'm happy to add you as an author, and I think Magnus was also
considering making it part of core code.

Philipp

On 5/27/19 10:12 AM, Geoff Lankow wrote:

I actually looked at the code of that extension to see what I would
need to do, got distracted by how easy it was and just did the whole
thing. I never got back there to notice there was development going
on. Oops!

Oh well, we have two now, and two is better than none. Unless you
wish to combine them somehow, which I'm okay with.

GL

On 27/05/19 17:50, Philipp Kewisch wrote:

Hey Geoff,

any reason you didn't
fork/improve https://github.com/kewisch/filelink-webdav ? Check out
the webextension branch.

Philipp 

On 27. May 2019, at 3:25 AM, Geoff Lankow <geoff@thunderbird.net
mailto:geoff@thunderbird.net> wrote:

I've created a FileLink provider extension for WebDAV, which could
be useful for a lot of Thunderbird users. However, I don't use
WebDAV and have only tested it against a Docker container.

As there's many different WebDAV servers out there, I'd like to
get some people testing it in real situations before I finish the
UI and remove the "experimental" flag.

https://addons.thunderbird.net/thunderbird/addon/filelink-provider-for-webdav/

https://github.com/darktrojan/dav/issues

GL


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https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/nextcloud-filelink/ Use webdav too no ? Le 29/05/2019 à 21:27, Magnus Melin a écrit : > > Indeed - tracking integrating it in > https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1532957 > > I think it is a useful standard that can help avoid pushing companies > into closed solutions. This way they can use file sharing without > vendor lock-in. WeTransfer is great for many end users, but companies > often want more control than that. > >  -Magnus > > On 27-05-2019 14:43, Philipp Kewisch wrote: >> I think it would be great if we could combine them. I'm sure your >> add-on has a few things in it that mine would benefit from and vice >> versa. I'm happy to add you as an author, and I think Magnus was also >> considering making it part of core code. >> >> Philipp >> >> On 5/27/19 10:12 AM, Geoff Lankow wrote: >>> >>> I actually looked at the code of that extension to see what I would >>> need to do, got distracted by how easy it was and just did the whole >>> thing. I never got back there to notice there was development going >>> on. Oops! >>> >>> Oh well, we have two now, and two is better than none. Unless you >>> wish to combine them somehow, which I'm okay with. >>> >>> GL >>> >>> >>> On 27/05/19 17:50, Philipp Kewisch wrote: >>>> Hey Geoff, >>>> >>>> any reason you didn't >>>> fork/improve https://github.com/kewisch/filelink-webdav ? Check out >>>> the webextension branch. >>>> >>>> Philipp  >>>> >>>> On 27. May 2019, at 3:25 AM, Geoff Lankow <geoff@thunderbird.net >>>> <mailto:geoff@thunderbird.net>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I've created a FileLink provider extension for WebDAV, which could >>>>> be useful for a lot of Thunderbird users. However, I don't use >>>>> WebDAV and have only tested it against a Docker container. >>>>> >>>>> As there's many different WebDAV servers out there, I'd like to >>>>> get some people testing it in real situations before I finish the >>>>> UI and remove the "experimental" flag. >>>>> >>>>> https://addons.thunderbird.net/thunderbird/addon/filelink-provider-for-webdav/ >>>>> >>>>> https://github.com/darktrojan/dav/issues >>>>> >>>>> GL >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Maildev mailing list >>>>> Maildev@lists.thunderbird.net <mailto:Maildev@lists.thunderbird.net> >>>>> http://lists.thunderbird.net/mailman/listinfo/maildev_lists.thunderbird.net >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Maildev mailing list >> Maildev@lists.thunderbird.net >> http://lists.thunderbird.net/mailman/listinfo/maildev_lists.thunderbird.net > > _______________________________________________ > Maildev mailing list > Maildev@lists.thunderbird.net > http://lists.thunderbird.net/mailman/listinfo/maildev_lists.thunderbird.net