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Re: T&T: Installing Corian or Like Ilk

BC
Bob Clinkenbeard
Sat, Dec 8, 2007 3:43 PM

If anyone has a source in the US where I can buy "slabs", raw material ready
to fabricate,  of Corian or any other brand name solid surface material,
please post it for all of us.
Shipping from a foreign country will not work for me.
Also, fabricated tops will not work....I can get that at Lowes or Home
Depot.

Bob Clinkenbeard
24' custom trailer trawler
http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-aboardbobbinalong

<Bob wrote: My statement saying, "you will not be able to get the solid
surface material"  is in reference to the raw material...not fabricated tops
from a home store.>

We've never had any trouble getting sheets/slabs of Corian or other similar
material. All of Swan Song's counter tops are Corian which I made from two
sheets of 1/2". We just ordered it from a supplier in Puerto Rico and it was
delivered to us in the BVI by ship a couple of weeks later.

It has worked very well for us aboard in both the galley and the heads.

I have also used it in rehabbing houses in the Northeast and never had
trouble getting it there. Perhaps this is a local distributor issue??

As always YMMV...

Dave & Nancy
Swan Song
Roughwater 58

If anyone has a source in the US where I can buy "slabs", raw material ready to fabricate, of Corian or any other brand name solid surface material, please post it for all of us. Shipping from a foreign country will not work for me. Also, fabricated tops will not work....I can get that at Lowes or Home Depot. Bob Clinkenbeard 24' custom trailer trawler http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-aboardbobbinalong <Bob wrote: My statement saying, "you will not be able to get the solid surface material" is in reference to the raw material...not fabricated tops from a home store.> We've never had any trouble getting sheets/slabs of Corian or other similar material. All of Swan Song's counter tops are Corian which I made from two sheets of 1/2". We just ordered it from a supplier in Puerto Rico and it was delivered to us in the BVI by ship a couple of weeks later. It has worked very well for us aboard in both the galley and the heads. I have also used it in rehabbing houses in the Northeast and never had trouble getting it there. Perhaps this is a local distributor issue?? As always YMMV... Dave & Nancy Swan Song Roughwater 58
JG
John Gaquin
Sat, Dec 8, 2007 4:34 PM

Bob, I should think you would be able to buy a slab from a local
supplier.  Generally, they get very particular about pre-measurment
because they often subcontract installation and it's crucial to get a
perfect template based sizing.  If you're able to release them from
any future responsibility for installation, fit, and finish, they
ought to be able to simply supply you with a slab to your dimensions.

JG

On 12/8/07, Bob Clinkenbeard clinkenbeardb@bellsouth.net wrote:

If anyone has a source in the US where I can buy "slabs", raw material ready
to fabricate,  of Corian or any other brand name solid surface material,
please post it for all of us.
Shipping from a foreign country will not work for me.
Also, fabricated tops will not work....I can get that at Lowes or Home
Depot.

Bob Clinkenbeard
24' custom trailer trawler
http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-aboardbobbinalong

<Bob wrote: My statement saying, "you will not be able to get the solid
surface material"  is in reference to the raw material...not fabricated tops
from a home store.>

We've never had any trouble getting sheets/slabs of Corian or other similar
material. All of Swan Song's counter tops are Corian which I made from two
sheets of 1/2". We just ordered it from a supplier in Puerto Rico and it was
delivered to us in the BVI by ship a couple of weeks later.

It has worked very well for us aboard in both the galley and the heads.

I have also used it in rehabbing houses in the Northeast and never had
trouble getting it there. Perhaps this is a local distributor issue??

As always YMMV...

Dave & Nancy
Swan Song
Roughwater 58


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Bob, I should think you would be able to buy a slab from a local supplier. Generally, they get very particular about pre-measurment because they often subcontract installation and it's crucial to get a perfect template based sizing. If you're able to release them from any future responsibility for installation, fit, and finish, they ought to be able to simply supply you with a slab to your dimensions. JG On 12/8/07, Bob Clinkenbeard <clinkenbeardb@bellsouth.net> wrote: > If anyone has a source in the US where I can buy "slabs", raw material ready > to fabricate, of Corian or any other brand name solid surface material, > please post it for all of us. > Shipping from a foreign country will not work for me. > Also, fabricated tops will not work....I can get that at Lowes or Home > Depot. > > Bob Clinkenbeard > 24' custom trailer trawler > http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-aboardbobbinalong > > > > > <Bob wrote: My statement saying, "you will not be able to get the solid > surface material" is in reference to the raw material...not fabricated tops > from a home store.> > > We've never had any trouble getting sheets/slabs of Corian or other similar > material. All of Swan Song's counter tops are Corian which I made from two > sheets of 1/2". We just ordered it from a supplier in Puerto Rico and it was > delivered to us in the BVI by ship a couple of weeks later. > > It has worked very well for us aboard in both the galley and the heads. > > I have also used it in rehabbing houses in the Northeast and never had > trouble getting it there. Perhaps this is a local distributor issue?? > > As always YMMV... > > Dave & Nancy > Swan Song > Roughwater 58 > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change email address, etc) go to: http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/trawlers-and-trawlering > > Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World > Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited.
BC
Bob Clinkenbeard
Sat, Dec 8, 2007 4:43 PM

This is not possible, as I stated in my first post.  You must be a certified
by the manufacturer or you can't buy it.
I am a general contractor in business for 36 years in Atlanta.  I use the
solid surface materials and granite in my everyday business...through
certified fabricators and installers.  The manufacturers make it unavailable
to keep the pricing up.
No one has named a source, only suppositions.

Name one source for raw material available to anyone from Corian or any
other major manufacturer of solid surface material.

Bob Clinkenbeard
24' custom trailer trawler
http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-aboardbobbinalong

Bob, I should think you would be able to buy a slab from a local
supplier.  Generally, they get very particular about pre-measurment
because they often subcontract installation and it's crucial to get a
perfect template based sizing.  If you're able to release them from
any future responsibility for installation, fit, and finish, they
ought to be able to simply supply you with a slab to your dimensions.

JG

On 12/8/07, Bob Clinkenbeard clinkenbeardb@bellsouth.net wrote:

If anyone has a source in the US where I can buy "slabs", raw material
ready
to fabricate,  of Corian or any other brand name solid surface material,
please post it for all of us.
Shipping from a foreign country will not work for me.
Also, fabricated tops will not work....I can get that at Lowes or Home
Depot.

Bob Clinkenbeard
24' custom trailer trawler
http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-aboardbobbinalong

This is not possible, as I stated in my first post. You must be a certified by the manufacturer or you can't buy it. I am a general contractor in business for 36 years in Atlanta. I use the solid surface materials and granite in my everyday business...through certified fabricators and installers. The manufacturers make it unavailable to keep the pricing up. No one has named a source, only suppositions. Name one source for raw material available to anyone from Corian or any other major manufacturer of solid surface material. Bob Clinkenbeard 24' custom trailer trawler http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-aboardbobbinalong > Bob, I should think you would be able to buy a slab from a local > supplier. Generally, they get very particular about pre-measurment > because they often subcontract installation and it's crucial to get a > perfect template based sizing. If you're able to release them from > any future responsibility for installation, fit, and finish, they > ought to be able to simply supply you with a slab to your dimensions. > > JG > > On 12/8/07, Bob Clinkenbeard <clinkenbeardb@bellsouth.net> wrote: >> If anyone has a source in the US where I can buy "slabs", raw material >> ready >> to fabricate, of Corian or any other brand name solid surface material, >> please post it for all of us. >> Shipping from a foreign country will not work for me. >> Also, fabricated tops will not work....I can get that at Lowes or Home >> Depot. >> >> Bob Clinkenbeard >> 24' custom trailer trawler >> http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-aboardbobbinalong
JG
John Gaquin
Sat, Dec 8, 2007 5:13 PM

On 12/8/07, Bob Clinkenbeard clinkenbeardb@bellsouth.net wrote:

....... I use the
solid surface materials and granite in my everyday business...through
certified fabricators and installers....

I take it, then, that none of these certified fabricators/installers
-- that you've dealt with on a daily basis for years -- is willing to
simply fabricate a simple 2 x 6 (for example) slab,  and then bring it
to you and install it per your specs by simply laying it down on your
work table.  Have I got that right?

On 12/8/07, Bob Clinkenbeard <clinkenbeardb@bellsouth.net> wrote: > ....... I use the > solid surface materials and granite in my everyday business...through > certified fabricators and installers.... I take it, then, that none of these certified fabricators/installers -- that you've dealt with on a daily basis for years -- is willing to simply fabricate a simple 2 x 6 (for example) slab, and then bring it to you and install it per your specs by simply laying it down on your work table. Have I got that right?
BC
Bob Clinkenbeard
Sat, Dec 8, 2007 6:17 PM

No you don't have it right John.

Evidently you are not reading the posts.  Anyone can get a fabricated piece
of the material, but not the RAW material.  I can't say it any more simply
than that.
There is one way to prove me wrong if that is what you want to do.....name
ONE supplier that will sell the material RAW to just anyone...NOT
fabricated/cut to dimensions.

PS.  A "slab" is what people in the business call a RAW piece of
material...not fabricated or cut to size....can be solid material or
laminate top material.

This is getting silly...anyone has issues with my statement should email me
offlist.

Bob Clinkenbeard
24' custom trailer trawler
http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-aboardbobbinalong

On 12/8/07, Bob Clinkenbeard clinkenbeardb@bellsouth.net wrote:

....... I use the
solid surface materials and granite in my everyday business...through
certified fabricators and installers....

I take it, then, that none of these certified fabricators/installers
-- that you've dealt with on a daily basis for years -- is willing to
simply fabricate a simple 2 x 6 (for example) slab,  and then bring it
to you and install it per your specs by simply laying it down on your
work table.  Have I got that right?

No you don't have it right John. Evidently you are not reading the posts. Anyone can get a fabricated piece of the material, but not the RAW material. I can't say it any more simply than that. There is one way to prove me wrong if that is what you want to do.....name ONE supplier that will sell the material RAW to just anyone...NOT fabricated/cut to dimensions. PS. A "slab" is what people in the business call a RAW piece of material...not fabricated or cut to size....can be solid material or laminate top material. This is getting silly...anyone has issues with my statement should email me offlist. Bob Clinkenbeard 24' custom trailer trawler http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-aboardbobbinalong > On 12/8/07, Bob Clinkenbeard <clinkenbeardb@bellsouth.net> wrote: >> ....... I use the >> solid surface materials and granite in my everyday business...through >> certified fabricators and installers.... > > I take it, then, that none of these certified fabricators/installers > -- that you've dealt with on a daily basis for years -- is willing to > simply fabricate a simple 2 x 6 (for example) slab, and then bring it > to you and install it per your specs by simply laying it down on your > work table. Have I got that right?
BH
Brent Hodges
Sat, Dec 8, 2007 6:34 PM

From: "Bob Clinkenbeard" clinkenbeardb@bellsouth.net

No you don't have it right John.

Anyone can get a fabricated piece

of the material, but not the RAW material.

John and all,
I was in the residential kitchen and  countertop business for 25 years, up
until about a year ago. Back when Corian, then later the other brands came
out, my shop was a fabricator / installer. Back then we could sell slabs
without too much trouble, and the Manufactures looked the other way. When
the compitetion got tighter, and folks that had done their own shoddy
installations started wanting warrantys (10 years in some cases) they
started tightening up on things. I even dropped Corian when they demanded
that I send two of my people to their school on the east coast, at my
expense, to learn what we had already been  doing for 10 years. After that,
the only way I could even get the colormatched silicone to do repairs, was
to buy it "bootleg" from fabricators that I knew. Dupont would not sell it
to me anymore.

So what Bob is saying is exactly right. The average guy on the street cannot
walk in anywhere that I know of and buy the raw material. Sure you go to a
fabricator and have him sell you a "top" 30" x 96", but you'll pay a
fabricated top price, not raw material price, unless you "know someone"  I
am also sure that Bob could go to his fabricator and sweetalk him into
selling him the materials, just because of his stroke in the business, but
that's not the point. Bob isn't the "average guy on the street" in regard to
buying these materials.

And if you do find someone that will sell you the materials, keep in mind
there will be NO warranty on any thing.

Brent Hodges
"Friendship"
1988 Albin 43 Sundeck
Seabrook, Tx

From: "Bob Clinkenbeard" <clinkenbeardb@bellsouth.net> > No you don't have it right John. > Anyone can get a fabricated piece > of the material, but not the RAW material. John and all, I was in the residential kitchen and countertop business for 25 years, up until about a year ago. Back when Corian, then later the other brands came out, my shop was a fabricator / installer. Back then we could sell slabs without too much trouble, and the Manufactures looked the other way. When the compitetion got tighter, and folks that had done their own shoddy installations started wanting warrantys (10 years in some cases) they started tightening up on things. I even dropped Corian when they demanded that I send two of my people to their school on the east coast, at my expense, to learn what we had already been doing for 10 years. After that, the only way I could even get the colormatched silicone to do repairs, was to buy it "bootleg" from fabricators that I knew. Dupont would not sell it to me anymore. So what Bob is saying is exactly right. The average guy on the street cannot walk in anywhere that I know of and buy the raw material. Sure you go to a fabricator and have him sell you a "top" 30" x 96", but you'll pay a fabricated top price, not raw material price, unless you "know someone" I am also sure that Bob could go to his fabricator and sweetalk him into selling him the materials, just because of his stroke in the business, but that's not the point. Bob isn't the "average guy on the street" in regard to buying these materials. And if you do find someone that will sell you the materials, keep in mind there will be NO warranty on any thing. Brent Hodges "Friendship" 1988 Albin 43 Sundeck Seabrook, Tx