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Gregory Hanisek
Thu, Jun 14, 2018 9:20 PM

I was surprised this morning, while birding at the East River marsh complex
at the Madison/Guilford line to see some lumps on an offshore rock turn
into gull chicks. The rock was about 15 feet high by 20 feet wide and three
fairly large but still downy and flightless gulls were on the top. Also on
there with them was an adult Great Black-backed Gull. That strongly
suggested what species they were, and when they began to beg the adult by
touching its bill with theirs I think the ID was confirmed. A second adult
subsequently joined the group. There was no nest visible but they clearly
were born on that rock, since they couldn't fly, and and I'm pretty sure
they can't swim. Actually if they could, I'm sure they couldn't scramble up
the steep sides of the rock. Where was the nest? I have to assume the back
side of the rock had a ledge or some configuration that could hold a nest.

I don't know how one might distinguish these from Herring Gulls if the
adults were not involved. It might be easy, but right now I don't know the
answer.

Greg Hanisek
Waterbury

I was surprised this morning, while birding at the East River marsh complex at the Madison/Guilford line to see some lumps on an offshore rock turn into gull chicks. The rock was about 15 feet high by 20 feet wide and three fairly large but still downy and flightless gulls were on the top. Also on there with them was an adult Great Black-backed Gull. That strongly suggested what species they were, and when they began to beg the adult by touching its bill with theirs I think the ID was confirmed. A second adult subsequently joined the group. There was no nest visible but they clearly were born on that rock, since they couldn't fly, and and I'm pretty sure they can't swim. Actually if they could, I'm sure they couldn't scramble up the steep sides of the rock. Where was the nest? I have to assume the back side of the rock had a ledge or some configuration that could hold a nest. I don't know how one might distinguish these from Herring Gulls if the adults were not involved. It might be easy, but right now I don't know the answer. Greg Hanisek Waterbury
TA
Tina and Peter Green
Thu, Jun 14, 2018 10:14 PM

While it’s unusual to find gulls nesting on a large isolated rock offshore, we have seen this in the Norwalk Islands the last few years. We have seen at least two pairs of Great Black-backed Gulls on “not much of a nest” and then with newly hatched young this year, one pair on a rock and the other on an “aid to navigation” marking Norwalk Harbor. I guess they decided Goose Island was too overcrowded and chose to go it alone on East White Rocks or share the
harbor marker “condo”with several Double-crested Cormorant pairs and their young.We have not seen this behavior with Herring Gulls yet.

Tina Green
Westport
Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 14, 2018, at 5:21 PM, Gregory Hanisek via CTBirds ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org wrote:

I was surprised this morning, while birding at the East River marsh complex
at the Madison/Guilford line to see some lumps on an offshore rock turn
into gull chicks. The rock was about 15 feet high by 20 feet wide and three
fairly large but still downy and flightless gulls were on the top. Also on
there with them was an adult Great Black-backed Gull. That strongly
suggested what species they were, and when they began to beg the adult by
touching its bill with theirs I think the ID was confirmed. A second adult
subsequently joined the group. There was no nest visible but they clearly
were born on that rock, since they couldn't fly, and and I'm pretty sure
they can't swim. Actually if they could, I'm sure they couldn't scramble up
the steep sides of the rock. Where was the nest? I have to assume the back
side of the rock had a ledge or some configuration that could hold a nest.

I don't know how one might distinguish these from Herring Gulls if the
adults were not involved. It might be easy, but right now I don't know the
answer.

Greg Hanisek
Waterbury


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While it’s unusual to find gulls nesting on a large isolated rock offshore, we have seen this in the Norwalk Islands the last few years. We have seen at least two pairs of Great Black-backed Gulls on “not much of a nest” and then with newly hatched young this year, one pair on a rock and the other on an “aid to navigation” marking Norwalk Harbor. I guess they decided Goose Island was too overcrowded and chose to go it alone on East White Rocks or share the harbor marker “condo”with several Double-crested Cormorant pairs and their young.We have not seen this behavior with Herring Gulls yet. Tina Green Westport Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 14, 2018, at 5:21 PM, Gregory Hanisek via CTBirds <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> wrote: > > I was surprised this morning, while birding at the East River marsh complex > at the Madison/Guilford line to see some lumps on an offshore rock turn > into gull chicks. The rock was about 15 feet high by 20 feet wide and three > fairly large but still downy and flightless gulls were on the top. Also on > there with them was an adult Great Black-backed Gull. That strongly > suggested what species they were, and when they began to beg the adult by > touching its bill with theirs I think the ID was confirmed. A second adult > subsequently joined the group. There was no nest visible but they clearly > were born on that rock, since they couldn't fly, and and I'm pretty sure > they can't swim. Actually if they could, I'm sure they couldn't scramble up > the steep sides of the rock. Where was the nest? I have to assume the back > side of the rock had a ledge or some configuration that could hold a nest. > > I don't know how one might distinguish these from Herring Gulls if the > adults were not involved. It might be easy, but right now I don't know the > answer. > > Greg Hanisek > Waterbury > _______________________________________________ > This list is provided by the Connecticut Ornithological Association (COA) for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. > For subscription information visit http://lists.ctbirding.org/mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_lists.ctbirding.org
DP
David Provencher
Fri, Jun 15, 2018 1:52 AM

I photographed Great Black-backed Gull on nest on rock just off shore at
Waterford Beach a few weeks ago. Haven't been back since, too many Atlas
Blocks to work! At Millstone Station we have (as usual) a number of Herring
Gull nests, some with chicks now, scattered on rooftops on site. Peregrine
chick looks close to fledging too. No evidence yet of additional chicks.
Nest is inaccessible.

Dave Provencher
Preston

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018, 6:15 PM Tina and Peter Green via CTBirds <
ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> wrote:

While it’s unusual to find gulls nesting on a large isolated rock
offshore, we have seen this in the Norwalk Islands the last few years. We
have seen at least two pairs of Great Black-backed Gulls on “not much of a
nest” and then with newly hatched young this year, one pair on a rock and
the other on an “aid to navigation” marking Norwalk Harbor. I guess they
decided Goose Island was too overcrowded and chose to go it alone on East
White Rocks or share the
harbor marker “condo”with several Double-crested Cormorant pairs and their
young.We have not seen this behavior with Herring Gulls yet.

Tina Green
Westport
Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 14, 2018, at 5:21 PM, Gregory Hanisek via CTBirds <

I was surprised this morning, while birding at the East River marsh

complex

at the Madison/Guilford line to see some lumps on an offshore rock turn
into gull chicks. The rock was about 15 feet high by 20 feet wide and

three

fairly large but still downy and flightless gulls were on the top. Also

on

there with them was an adult Great Black-backed Gull. That strongly
suggested what species they were, and when they began to beg the adult by
touching its bill with theirs I think the ID was confirmed. A second

adult

subsequently joined the group. There was no nest visible but they clearly
were born on that rock, since they couldn't fly, and and I'm pretty sure
they can't swim. Actually if they could, I'm sure they couldn't scramble

up

the steep sides of the rock. Where was the nest? I have to assume the

back

side of the rock had a ledge or some configuration that could hold a

nest.

I don't know how one might distinguish these from Herring Gulls if the
adults were not involved. It might be easy, but right now I don't know

the

answer.

Greg Hanisek
Waterbury


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I photographed Great Black-backed Gull on nest on rock just off shore at Waterford Beach a few weeks ago. Haven't been back since, too many Atlas Blocks to work! At Millstone Station we have (as usual) a number of Herring Gull nests, some with chicks now, scattered on rooftops on site. Peregrine chick looks close to fledging too. No evidence yet of additional chicks. Nest is inaccessible. Dave Provencher Preston On Thu, Jun 14, 2018, 6:15 PM Tina and Peter Green via CTBirds < ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> wrote: > While it’s unusual to find gulls nesting on a large isolated rock > offshore, we have seen this in the Norwalk Islands the last few years. We > have seen at least two pairs of Great Black-backed Gulls on “not much of a > nest” and then with newly hatched young this year, one pair on a rock and > the other on an “aid to navigation” marking Norwalk Harbor. I guess they > decided Goose Island was too overcrowded and chose to go it alone on East > White Rocks or share the > harbor marker “condo”with several Double-crested Cormorant pairs and their > young.We have not seen this behavior with Herring Gulls yet. > > Tina Green > Westport > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jun 14, 2018, at 5:21 PM, Gregory Hanisek via CTBirds < > ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> wrote: > > > > I was surprised this morning, while birding at the East River marsh > complex > > at the Madison/Guilford line to see some lumps on an offshore rock turn > > into gull chicks. The rock was about 15 feet high by 20 feet wide and > three > > fairly large but still downy and flightless gulls were on the top. Also > on > > there with them was an adult Great Black-backed Gull. That strongly > > suggested what species they were, and when they began to beg the adult by > > touching its bill with theirs I think the ID was confirmed. A second > adult > > subsequently joined the group. There was no nest visible but they clearly > > were born on that rock, since they couldn't fly, and and I'm pretty sure > > they can't swim. Actually if they could, I'm sure they couldn't scramble > up > > the steep sides of the rock. Where was the nest? I have to assume the > back > > side of the rock had a ledge or some configuration that could hold a > nest. > > > > I don't know how one might distinguish these from Herring Gulls if the > > adults were not involved. It might be easy, but right now I don't know > the > > answer. > > > > Greg Hanisek > > Waterbury > > _______________________________________________ > > This list is provided by the Connecticut Ornithological Association > (COA) for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. > > For subscription information visit > http://lists.ctbirding.org/mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_lists.ctbirding.org > _______________________________________________ > This list is provided by the Connecticut Ornithological Association (COA) > for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. > For subscription information visit > http://lists.ctbirding.org/mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_lists.ctbirding.org >