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David Evans
Fri, Sep 10, 2010 5:53 PM

List Readers,

Others may be interested to see these photographs of Don Richard's SH
54 with Portuguese Bridge. In corresponding with Don, I had forgotten
to include the list when I replied to Don only. I forgot this does not
include the group as with some lists. Actually, you will probably have
to check his site for updates and pictures.

David

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: David Evans highpressure@gmail.com
Date: Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: [PUP] Passagemaking challenges
To: Don Richards don_richards@hotmail.com

Hi Don,

Your photos are an inspiration. It is exciting to see the Sea Horse
sedan series with a PB. To my eye it really completes the boat. Your
decision to use LP paint makes sense as I have a boat painted with
Sterling and with care it looks new twenty years later. Please
continue to post photos of the build process. Surely I am not alone in
finding these interesting.

Further reading on the Sea Horse site reveals they do use a system of
fuel tanks leading to a 137 gal day tank. B I also see the "CV" drive
system is standard on their boats. Does the ZF transmission allow for
locking one engine as you mention in it's standard configuration?

As George mentioned, many of us will be interested to know how the
gyro stabilizer works. I have read about them and I am egar to hear
how it works for you on Kakeda.I see as you mention that B The SH
appears to have a more pronounced chine than Nordhavn and Kadey Krogen
which is well B suited to this system. Will the M25 be mounted in the
lazarette?

Thanks,

David

On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Don Richards don_richards@hotmail.com
wrote:

Hi David,

The thirdB fuel tank is not gravity fed like the N46 but we will have
redundant fuel pumps (plus a spare). We preferB a wet exhaust for several
reasons including height. Are you referrring to theB "CV" couplingB ?B  The

PB

doesn't have a mould yet - we are the first to order one. In the attached
photos you might also notice that SHM use a clear gelcoat in the
mouldB andB Kekada will have a painted finished as favoured by the

mega-yacht

builders. While this is slightly more expensive than adding coloured
gel-coat directly in the mould it does make for a better and longer lasting
finish asB we evidenced onB aB ten year old 52 that was kept in the tropics.

It

still looked fantastic. We have selected dual walkways as our experiences

in

the Med tell us this is the better choice. SHM's s/s work is also the best
we have seen bar none. The real clincher for us was the hull design - to my
mind it is the perfect passagemaker shape and fits well with our choice of
gyro stabilisation. By taking delivery in China we expect the final cost to
be underB US$750K including aB LOT of extras which is one helluva bargain
price compared to the other boats we looked at (and in quite some detail).
The base boat similar to the one in Passagemaker is only US$499K ex China.

Cheers, Don

Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 12:15:48 -0700
Subject: Re: [PUP] Passagemaking challenges
From: highpressure@gmail.com
To: don_richards@hotmail.com

Don,

I read further and now see that you will take delivery in China at
SHM. I applaud you adventurous spirit!

You mention designing a modern day Nordhavn 46 and I can appreciate
your intentions as many attributes are most desirable.

Are you staying with wet exhaust on the SH54? Definite height advantage.

Is there any way to have a "day tank" in the fuel system? I imagine
the gravity flow aspect of the N-46's system could be managed with
redundant fuel pumps in the fuel polishing system.

Are you using the clone "Aqua Drive" anti vibration coupler?

Best Regards,

David

On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 11:08 AM, David Evans highpressure@gmail.com
wrote:

Don,

Thank-you for sharing your site and details of "Kekada". I was briefly
aboard the SeaHorse 52 which Capital City Yacht Sales was showing at
Trawlerfest in Anacortes this year. The show was actually over when I
met Alan and his wife fueling the boat at Cap Sante's fuel barge as I
sought a block of ice. I remarked at the size of boat and Alan
cordially invited me aboard. I responded that I really need to stop
looking at boats I can't afford, as this will only complicate the
shopping process. I was intrigued to learn he is offering a 50+ foot
boat for $640,000 and took a quick tour.

B The lazarette was open so I first went down in the engine room with
twin JD 135HP coupled to a ZF transmission with a clone "hydromatic"
drive. I was impressed with the layout and installation of the systems
and the deep keel allowing me to stand fully upright and walk between
the engines.

B Forgive me, as you are very familiar with the boat and others have
probably seen the article on this exact vessel in PassageMaker
Magazine's September issue (2010), so B I won't detail my tour, but
certain details stood out, such as:

B Many builders charge a fortune to do gloss wood finish.

I prefer the asymmetrical layout, preserving a fully protected walkway
on the starboard side.

The lack of a Portuguese Bridge was the only down side I remember.

So, I see you have added a Portuguese Bridge to the Sea Horse and gone
with a 54 foot version. Alan was offering a good deal on his spec boat
and I kept wondering if I could somehow add a PB. Of course, this
would be much easier to order from the factory during construction.
Does SH have a mold for the PB, or do they mock it up and glass over?
Where do you plan on having Kekada commissioned

Your site has the best pictures I have seen of a Sea Horse, Thanks
again for sharing and I look forward to seeing your progress.

You and Anja must be very excited.

Cheers,

David

On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Don Richards don_richards@hotmail.com
wrote:

Hi David,

Thank you for your interest. Could I direct you in the first instance
to our
web site www.kekada.com and the section "about kekada".B  Also the
picture on
the home page is just a mock-up to give friends etc an idea of what she
will
look like. I have been a bit lazy in updating the site but there is a
link
to our old site where appropriate.B There have also been a couple of
equipment changes/additions. When I get some time I will update these
and
add the reasoning behind many of our choices. In the meantime if you
have
any specific questions I would be happy to answer them.

Cheers, Don

List Readers, Others may be interested to see these photographs of Don Richard's SH 54 with Portuguese Bridge. In corresponding with Don, I had forgotten to include the list when I replied to Don only. I forgot this does not include the group as with some lists. Actually, you will probably have to check his site for updates and pictures. David ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: David Evans <highpressure@gmail.com> Date: Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 12:50 PM Subject: Re: [PUP] Passagemaking challenges To: Don Richards <don_richards@hotmail.com> Hi Don, Your photos are an inspiration. It is exciting to see the Sea Horse sedan series with a PB. To my eye it really completes the boat. Your decision to use LP paint makes sense as I have a boat painted with Sterling and with care it looks new twenty years later. Please continue to post photos of the build process. Surely I am not alone in finding these interesting. Further reading on the Sea Horse site reveals they do use a system of fuel tanks leading to a 137 gal day tank. B I also see the "CV" drive system is standard on their boats. Does the ZF transmission allow for locking one engine as you mention in it's standard configuration? As George mentioned, many of us will be interested to know how the gyro stabilizer works. I have read about them and I am egar to hear how it works for you on Kakeda.I see as you mention that B The SH appears to have a more pronounced chine than Nordhavn and Kadey Krogen which is well B suited to this system. Will the M25 be mounted in the lazarette? Thanks, David On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 6:12 PM, Don Richards <don_richards@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hi David, > > The thirdB fuel tank is not gravity fed like the N46 but we will have > redundant fuel pumps (plus a spare). We preferB a wet exhaust for several > reasons including height. Are you referrring to theB "CV" couplingB ?B The PB > doesn't have a mould yet - we are the first to order one. In the attached > photos you might also notice that SHM use a clear gelcoat in the > mouldB andB Kekada will have a painted finished as favoured by the mega-yacht > builders. While this is slightly more expensive than adding coloured > gel-coat directly in the mould it does make for a better and longer lasting > finish asB we evidenced onB aB ten year old 52 that was kept in the tropics. It > still looked fantastic. We have selected dual walkways as our experiences in > the Med tell us this is the better choice. SHM's s/s work is also the best > we have seen bar none. The real clincher for us was the hull design - to my > mind it is the perfect passagemaker shape and fits well with our choice of > gyro stabilisation. By taking delivery in China we expect the final cost to > be underB US$750K including aB LOT of extras which is one helluva bargain > price compared to the other boats we looked at (and in quite some detail). > The base boat similar to the one in Passagemaker is only US$499K ex China. > > Cheers, Don > >> Date: Wed, 8 Sep 2010 12:15:48 -0700 >> Subject: Re: [PUP] Passagemaking challenges >> From: highpressure@gmail.com >> To: don_richards@hotmail.com >> >> Don, >> >> I read further and now see that you will take delivery in China at >> SHM. I applaud you adventurous spirit! >> >> You mention designing a modern day Nordhavn 46 and I can appreciate >> your intentions as many attributes are most desirable. >> >> Are you staying with wet exhaust on the SH54? Definite height advantage. >> >> Is there any way to have a "day tank" in the fuel system? I imagine >> the gravity flow aspect of the N-46's system could be managed with >> redundant fuel pumps in the fuel polishing system. >> >> Are you using the clone "Aqua Drive" anti vibration coupler? >> >> Best Regards, >> >> David >> >> On Wed, Sep 8, 2010 at 11:08 AM, David Evans <highpressure@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > Don, >> > >> > Thank-you for sharing your site and details of "Kekada". I was briefly >> > aboard the SeaHorse 52 which Capital City Yacht Sales was showing at >> > Trawlerfest in Anacortes this year. The show was actually over when I >> > met Alan and his wife fueling the boat at Cap Sante's fuel barge as I >> > sought a block of ice. I remarked at the size of boat and Alan >> > cordially invited me aboard. I responded that I really need to stop >> > looking at boats I can't afford, as this will only complicate the >> > shopping process. I was intrigued to learn he is offering a 50+ foot >> > boat for $640,000 and took a quick tour. >> > >> > B The lazarette was open so I first went down in the engine room with >> > twin JD 135HP coupled to a ZF transmission with a clone "hydromatic" >> > drive. I was impressed with the layout and installation of the systems >> > and the deep keel allowing me to stand fully upright and walk between >> > the engines. >> > >> > B Forgive me, as you are very familiar with the boat and others have >> > probably seen the article on this exact vessel in PassageMaker >> > Magazine's September issue (2010), so B I won't detail my tour, but >> > certain details stood out, such as: >> > >> > B Many builders charge a fortune to do gloss wood finish. >> > >> > I prefer the asymmetrical layout, preserving a fully protected walkway >> > on the starboard side. >> > >> > The lack of a Portuguese Bridge was the only down side I remember. >> > >> > So, I see you have added a Portuguese Bridge to the Sea Horse and gone >> > with a 54 foot version. Alan was offering a good deal on his spec boat >> > and I kept wondering if I could somehow add a PB. Of course, this >> > would be much easier to order from the factory during construction. >> > Does SH have a mold for the PB, or do they mock it up and glass over? >> > Where do you plan on having Kekada commissioned >> > >> > Your site has the best pictures I have seen of a Sea Horse, Thanks >> > again for sharing and I look forward to seeing your progress. >> > >> > You and Anja must be very excited. >> > >> > Cheers, >> > >> > David >> > >> > On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 10:26 PM, Don Richards <don_richards@hotmail.com> >> > wrote: >> >> Hi David, >> >> >> >> Thank you for your interest. Could I direct you in the first instance >> >> to our >> >> web site www.kekada.com and the section "about kekada".B Also the >> >> picture on >> >> the home page is just a mock-up to give friends etc an idea of what she >> >> will >> >> look like. I have been a bit lazy in updating the site but there is a >> >> link >> >> to our old site where appropriate.B There have also been a couple of >> >> equipment changes/additions. When I get some time I will update these >> >> and >> >> add the reasoning behind many of our choices. In the meantime if you >> >> have >> >> any specific questions I would be happy to answer them. >> >> >> >> >> >> Cheers, Don