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Leviton VTP24 Is this Time Accurate enough?

DR
D. Resor
Fri, Aug 27, 2021 3:49 AM

I inquired with Leviton as to the accuracy of the VTP24 24 Hour Programmable
Timer with DST.

https://www.leviton.com/en/products/vpt24-1pz

Don Resor

Here is the reply I received:

Hello,

Thank you for contacting Leviton technical support. According to the code it
meets, it is required to have time keeping accuracy within 5 minutes every
year.

It also uses a crystal to keep time, as it must maintain the time even
during power outages.

Regards,

Virgilio Dominguez
Technical Services Representative II
Leviton Manufacturing Co., Inc.
201 North Service Road., Melville, NY 11747

I inquired with Leviton as to the accuracy of the VTP24 24 Hour Programmable Timer with DST. https://www.leviton.com/en/products/vpt24-1pz Don Resor Here is the reply I received: Hello, Thank you for contacting Leviton technical support. According to the code it meets, it is required to have time keeping accuracy within 5 minutes every year. It also uses a crystal to keep time, as it must maintain the time even during power outages. Regards, Virgilio Dominguez Technical Services Representative II Leviton Manufacturing Co., Inc. 201 North Service Road., Melville, NY 11747
DW
Dana Whitlow
Fri, Aug 27, 2021 10:30 AM

If my watch were that bad, I'd toss it out and go shopping for a new one.
I wonder if Leviton offers a version with an external ref input.

Dana

On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 12:12 AM D. Resor organlists1@sonic.net wrote:

I inquired with Leviton as to the accuracy of the VTP24 24 Hour
Programmable
Timer with DST.

https://www.leviton.com/en/products/vpt24-1pz

Don Resor

Here is the reply I received:

Hello,

Thank you for contacting Leviton technical support. According to the code
it
meets, it is required to have time keeping accuracy within 5 minutes every
year.

It also uses a crystal to keep time, as it must maintain the time even
during power outages.

Regards,

Virgilio Dominguez
Technical Services Representative II
Leviton Manufacturing Co., Inc.
201 North Service Road., Melville, NY 11747


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If my watch were that bad, I'd toss it out and go shopping for a new one. I wonder if Leviton offers a version with an external ref input. Dana On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 12:12 AM D. Resor <organlists1@sonic.net> wrote: > I inquired with Leviton as to the accuracy of the VTP24 24 Hour > Programmable > Timer with DST. > > https://www.leviton.com/en/products/vpt24-1pz > > Don Resor > > Here is the reply I received: > > Hello, > > Thank you for contacting Leviton technical support. According to the code > it > meets, it is required to have time keeping accuracy within 5 minutes every > year. > > It also uses a crystal to keep time, as it must maintain the time even > during power outages. > > Regards, > > Virgilio Dominguez > Technical Services Representative II > Leviton Manufacturing Co., Inc. > 201 North Service Road., Melville, NY 11747 > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com -- To unsubscribe send > an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to and follow the instructions there. >
LJ
Lux, Jim
Fri, Aug 27, 2021 1:25 PM

On 8/27/21 3:30 AM, Dana Whitlow wrote:

If my watch were that bad, I'd toss it out and go shopping for a new one.
I wonder if Leviton offers a version with an external ref input.

Dana

When your requirement is "turn the lights on and off with the sun" 5
min/year is pretty good.

OTOH, Perhaps there's an aftermarket for a modified version. Maybe
you've got a niche business opportunity there, Dana.

"Now, with improved accuracy!

Ovenized for better performance!

30 millsecond error in one year!
"

You might need to gradually change the frequency you feed it, though,
because I'll bet their sunrise/sunset algorithm doesn't implement the
equation of time. But if you're doing milliseconds, you'll need it.

On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 12:12 AM D. Resor organlists1@sonic.net wrote:

I inquired with Leviton as to the accuracy of the VTP24 24 Hour
Programmable
Timer with DST.

https://www.leviton.com/en/products/vpt24-1pz

Don Resor

Here is the reply I received:

Hello,

Thank you for contacting Leviton technical support. According to the code
it
meets, it is required to have time keeping accuracy within 5 minutes every
year.

It also uses a crystal to keep time, as it must maintain the time even
during power outages.

Regards,

Virgilio Dominguez
Technical Services Representative II
Leviton Manufacturing Co., Inc.
201 North Service Road., Melville, NY 11747


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On 8/27/21 3:30 AM, Dana Whitlow wrote: > If my watch were that bad, I'd toss it out and go shopping for a new one. > I wonder if Leviton offers a version with an external ref input. > > Dana When your requirement is "turn the lights on and off with the sun" 5 min/year is pretty good. OTOH, Perhaps there's an aftermarket for a modified version. Maybe you've got a niche business opportunity there, Dana. "Now, with improved accuracy! Ovenized for better performance! 30 millsecond error in one year! " You might need to gradually change the frequency you feed it, though, because I'll bet their sunrise/sunset algorithm doesn't implement the equation of time. But if you're doing milliseconds, you'll need it. > > > On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 12:12 AM D. Resor <organlists1@sonic.net> wrote: > >> I inquired with Leviton as to the accuracy of the VTP24 24 Hour >> Programmable >> Timer with DST. >> >> https://www.leviton.com/en/products/vpt24-1pz >> >> Don Resor >> >> Here is the reply I received: >> >> Hello, >> >> Thank you for contacting Leviton technical support. According to the code >> it >> meets, it is required to have time keeping accuracy within 5 minutes every >> year. >> >> It also uses a crystal to keep time, as it must maintain the time even >> during power outages. >> >> Regards, >> >> Virgilio Dominguez >> Technical Services Representative II >> Leviton Manufacturing Co., Inc. >> 201 North Service Road., Melville, NY 11747 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com -- To unsubscribe send >> an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to and follow the instructions there. >> > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com -- To unsubscribe send an email to time-nuts-leave@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to and follow the instructions there. >
AR
Andrew Rodland
Thu, Sep 9, 2021 2:38 AM

On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 9:29 AM Lux, Jim jim@luxfamily.com wrote:

When your requirement is "turn the lights on and off with the sun" 5
min/year is pretty good.

When I bought my current house, I forgot to call the electric company
before closing, and they turned off the power right at 5am of the day I
moved in.

I called them that very day, but since it was the Friday of a holiday
weekend, they said they couldn't send someone out to get it turned back on
until Tuesday, so we had a nice time in the house without power.

On Tuesday, right exactly at 5:00, the power came back on. And the old
mechanical timer that turned the driveway light on around sunset and back
off in the morning didn't need to be adjusted at all — it had missed
exactly 96 hours, and came back to life without noticing the difference.

Andrew

On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 9:29 AM Lux, Jim <jim@luxfamily.com> wrote: > > When your requirement is "turn the lights on and off with the sun" 5 > min/year is pretty good. > > When I bought my current house, I forgot to call the electric company before closing, and they turned off the power right at 5am of the day I moved in. I called them that very day, but since it was the Friday of a holiday weekend, they said they couldn't send someone out to get it turned back on until Tuesday, so we had a nice time in the house without power. On Tuesday, right exactly at 5:00, the power came back on. And the old mechanical timer that turned the driveway light on around sunset and back off in the morning didn't need to be adjusted at all — it had missed exactly 96 hours, and came back to life without noticing the difference. Andrew