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DD
Dr. David Kirkby
Thu, Aug 8, 2013 11:08 AM

On 6 August 2013 09:37, Raj vu2zap@gmail.com wrote:

Found this on Hack-a-day

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chrzrod3tQY

Cheers

--
Raj, VU2ZAP

Interesting video. I decided to but one of the distribution amps. I
already have the rubidium. There were a few things that struck me in
the video.

  1. Having a PIC to control an LED seems a bit OTT. Personally I'd just
    stick a second LED - one as a power indicator, the other as a lock
    indicator, rather than make it flash when warming up, and solid when
    locked.

  2. If one does have a flashing LED, it would be better if it is
    slower, in case there are any epilepitcs about. As someone who suffers
    from photosensitive epilepsy, I would not want it flashing any faster
    than 1 Hz. He should just about be ok, but I'd feel a bit happier if
    it was slower.

  3. I'm not really convinced there is a need to change the output
    impedance from 75 to 50 Ohms. The impedance mis-match is pretty small.

  4. More concerning to me would be the fact the output connectors are
    75 Ohm, and so would be damaged with the larger male pin of a 50 Ohm
    connector. I guess one might get away with it given one is not going
    to be disconnecting this a lot, but I think I'd buy 75 Ohm BNC plugs
    to put on one end of the cable, and 50 Ohm BNC plugs on the other end,
    sticking a bit of heatshrink on the 75 Ohm end of the cable so I know
    they are not standard BNC cables.

  5. I wondered if there is enough cooling air there? What size heatsink
    would be optimal? I think unlike most electronics, one does not want
    to cool the rubidiums too much, so "bigger is better" might not apply
    here.

  6. Is the use of a SMPS a good idea? I thought the Rb oscillators
    should be powered from a linear supply. I don;t suppose it is possible
    to get a linear power supply in there.

  7. He scrapped the BNCs configured as digital lines. I would have
    thought it worthwhile bringing out a 1 pps output, which I think those
    Rb oscillators have.

  8. I wonder if one could fit a GPS locking module in that box and
    antenna connector on the box.

  9. It will look very odd to have the heatsink as the front panel !!
    But I guess that is a small price to pay for getting a reasonably
    sized box and

  10. I suspect the box will be hard to keep in place, since with a
    dozen or so BNCs on the rear, that is going to go where the cables
    tell it to go, rather than the other way around. Perhaps a heavy
    heatsink will mittigate that.

  11. If I recall correctly, there is a way of adjusting the freqency of
    those rubidiums, though I guess for the intended application, a Rb is
    plenty good enough. I know it is for me, but perhaps not for a
    dedicated time-nut.

Dave, G8WRB

On 6 August 2013 09:37, Raj <vu2zap@gmail.com> wrote: > Found this on Hack-a-day > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chrzrod3tQY > > Cheers > > -- > Raj, VU2ZAP Interesting video. I decided to but one of the distribution amps. I already have the rubidium. There were a few things that struck me in the video. 1) Having a PIC to control an LED seems a bit OTT. Personally I'd just stick a second LED - one as a power indicator, the other as a lock indicator, rather than make it flash when warming up, and solid when locked. 2) If one does have a flashing LED, it would be better if it is slower, in case there are any epilepitcs about. As someone who suffers from photosensitive epilepsy, I would not want it flashing any faster than 1 Hz. He should just about be ok, but I'd feel a bit happier if it was slower. 3) I'm not really convinced there is a need to change the output impedance from 75 to 50 Ohms. The impedance mis-match is pretty small. 4) More concerning to me would be the fact the output connectors are 75 Ohm, and so would be damaged with the larger male pin of a 50 Ohm connector. I guess one might get away with it given one is not going to be disconnecting this a lot, but I think I'd buy 75 Ohm BNC plugs to put on one end of the cable, and 50 Ohm BNC plugs on the other end, sticking a bit of heatshrink on the 75 Ohm end of the cable so I know they are not standard BNC cables. 5) I wondered if there is enough cooling air there? What size heatsink would be optimal? I think unlike most electronics, one does not want to cool the rubidiums too much, so "bigger is better" might not apply here. 6) Is the use of a SMPS a good idea? I thought the Rb oscillators should be powered from a linear supply. I don;t suppose it is possible to get a linear power supply in there. 7) He scrapped the BNCs configured as digital lines. I would have thought it worthwhile bringing out a 1 pps output, which I think those Rb oscillators have. 8) I wonder if one could fit a GPS locking module in that box and antenna connector on the box. 9) It will look very odd to have the heatsink as the front panel !! But I guess that is a small price to pay for getting a reasonably sized box and 10) I suspect the box will be hard to keep in place, since with a dozen or so BNCs on the rear, that is going to go where the cables tell it to go, rather than the other way around. Perhaps a heavy heatsink will mittigate that. 11) If I recall correctly, there is a way of adjusting the freqency of those rubidiums, though I guess for the intended application, a Rb is plenty good enough. I know it is for me, but perhaps not for a dedicated time-nut. Dave, G8WRB
M
mc235960
Thu, Aug 8, 2013 1:49 PM

None left from that batch.  Hope you got yours.

Points taken, but cheap enough to  experiment with.

Le 8 août 2013 à 13:08, Dr. David Kirkby a écrit :

On 6 August 2013 09:37, Raj vu2zap@gmail.com wrote:

Found this on Hack-a-day

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chrzrod3tQY

Cheers

--
Raj, VU2ZAP

Interesting video. I decided to but one of the distribution amps. I
already have the rubidium. There were a few things that struck me in
the video.

  1. Having a PIC to control an LED seems a bit OTT. Personally I'd just
    stick a second LED - one as a power indicator, the other as a lock
    indicator, rather than make it flash when warming up, and solid when
    locked.

  2. If one does have a flashing LED, it would be better if it is
    slower, in case there are any epilepitcs about. As someone who suffers
    from photosensitive epilepsy, I would not want it flashing any faster
    than 1 Hz. He should just about be ok, but I'd feel a bit happier if
    it was slower.

  3. I'm not really convinced there is a need to change the output
    impedance from 75 to 50 Ohms. The impedance mis-match is pretty small.

  4. More concerning to me would be the fact the output connectors are
    75 Ohm, and so would be damaged with the larger male pin of a 50 Ohm
    connector. I guess one might get away with it given one is not going
    to be disconnecting this a lot, but I think I'd buy 75 Ohm BNC plugs
    to put on one end of the cable, and 50 Ohm BNC plugs on the other end,
    sticking a bit of heatshrink on the 75 Ohm end of the cable so I know
    they are not standard BNC cables.

  5. I wondered if there is enough cooling air there? What size heatsink
    would be optimal? I think unlike most electronics, one does not want
    to cool the rubidiums too much, so "bigger is better" might not apply
    here.

  6. Is the use of a SMPS a good idea? I thought the Rb oscillators
    should be powered from a linear supply. I don;t suppose it is possible
    to get a linear power supply in there.

  7. He scrapped the BNCs configured as digital lines. I would have
    thought it worthwhile bringing out a 1 pps output, which I think those
    Rb oscillators have.

  8. I wonder if one could fit a GPS locking module in that box and
    antenna connector on the box.

  9. It will look very odd to have the heatsink as the front panel !!
    But I guess that is a small price to pay for getting a reasonably
    sized box and

  10. I suspect the box will be hard to keep in place, since with a
    dozen or so BNCs on the rear, that is going to go where the cables
    tell it to go, rather than the other way around. Perhaps a heavy
    heatsink will mittigate that.

  11. If I recall correctly, there is a way of adjusting the freqency of
    those rubidiums, though I guess for the intended application, a Rb is
    plenty good enough. I know it is for me, but perhaps not for a
    dedicated time-nut.

Dave, G8WRB


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None left from that batch. Hope you got yours. Points taken, but cheap enough to experiment with. Le 8 août 2013 à 13:08, Dr. David Kirkby a écrit : > On 6 August 2013 09:37, Raj <vu2zap@gmail.com> wrote: >> Found this on Hack-a-day >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chrzrod3tQY >> >> Cheers >> >> -- >> Raj, VU2ZAP > > Interesting video. I decided to but one of the distribution amps. I > already have the rubidium. There were a few things that struck me in > the video. > > 1) Having a PIC to control an LED seems a bit OTT. Personally I'd just > stick a second LED - one as a power indicator, the other as a lock > indicator, rather than make it flash when warming up, and solid when > locked. > > 2) If one does have a flashing LED, it would be better if it is > slower, in case there are any epilepitcs about. As someone who suffers > from photosensitive epilepsy, I would not want it flashing any faster > than 1 Hz. He should just about be ok, but I'd feel a bit happier if > it was slower. > > 3) I'm not really convinced there is a need to change the output > impedance from 75 to 50 Ohms. The impedance mis-match is pretty small. > > 4) More concerning to me would be the fact the output connectors are > 75 Ohm, and so would be damaged with the larger male pin of a 50 Ohm > connector. I guess one might get away with it given one is not going > to be disconnecting this a lot, but I think I'd buy 75 Ohm BNC plugs > to put on one end of the cable, and 50 Ohm BNC plugs on the other end, > sticking a bit of heatshrink on the 75 Ohm end of the cable so I know > they are not standard BNC cables. > > 5) I wondered if there is enough cooling air there? What size heatsink > would be optimal? I think unlike most electronics, one does not want > to cool the rubidiums too much, so "bigger is better" might not apply > here. > > 6) Is the use of a SMPS a good idea? I thought the Rb oscillators > should be powered from a linear supply. I don;t suppose it is possible > to get a linear power supply in there. > > 7) He scrapped the BNCs configured as digital lines. I would have > thought it worthwhile bringing out a 1 pps output, which I think those > Rb oscillators have. > > 8) I wonder if one could fit a GPS locking module in that box and > antenna connector on the box. > > 9) It will look very odd to have the heatsink as the front panel !! > But I guess that is a small price to pay for getting a reasonably > sized box and > > 10) I suspect the box will be hard to keep in place, since with a > dozen or so BNCs on the rear, that is going to go where the cables > tell it to go, rather than the other way around. Perhaps a heavy > heatsink will mittigate that. > > 11) If I recall correctly, there is a way of adjusting the freqency of > those rubidiums, though I guess for the intended application, a Rb is > plenty good enough. I know it is for me, but perhaps not for a > dedicated time-nut. > > Dave, G8WRB > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.
DD
Dr. David Kirkby
Thu, Aug 8, 2013 2:05 PM

On 8 August 2013 14:49, mc235960 mc235960@gmail.com wrote:

None left from that batch.  Hope you got yours.

I suspect he has a lot. He originally listed 10, and all them have
gone, so he has listed another 10

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=161082475549

Dave

On 8 August 2013 14:49, mc235960 <mc235960@gmail.com> wrote: > None left from that batch. Hope you got yours. I suspect he has a lot. He originally listed 10, and all them have gone, so he has listed another 10 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=161082475549 Dave
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Volker Esper
Thu, Aug 8, 2013 2:21 PM

The number on the front panel shows "53" on the current picture...
That gives hope to those who still think about it... :-)

Volker

Am 08.08.2013 16:05, schrieb Dr. David Kirkby:

On 8 August 2013 14:49, mc235960mc235960@gmail.com  wrote:

None left from that batch.  Hope you got yours.

I suspect he has a lot. He originally listed 10, and all them have
gone, so he has listed another 10

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=161082475549

Dave


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The number on the front panel shows "53" on the current picture... That gives hope to those who still think about it... :-) Volker Am 08.08.2013 16:05, schrieb Dr. David Kirkby: > On 8 August 2013 14:49, mc235960<mc235960@gmail.com> wrote: > >> None left from that batch. Hope you got yours. >> > I suspect he has a lot. He originally listed 10, and all them have > gone, so he has listed another 10 > > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=161082475549 > > Dave > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > > >
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EB4APL
Thu, Aug 8, 2013 3:19 PM

I bought one of these DA's from the same seller and according to the
user's guide the BW is 300 MHz, fully loaded.  I didn't measured it but
it works very well at 10 MHz.

Regards,
Ignacio EB4APL

On 08/08/2013 3:39, Mark C. Stephens wrote:

Seems they are rated to 5MHz according to the manufacturer..
They ebay item number is 161081736069.

--marki

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Eric Garner
Sent: Thursday, 8 August 2013 5:57 AM
To: Steve G8EBM; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Rb video

what's the performance of the distribution amplifier like?

On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Steve G8EBM steve@g8ebm.com wrote:

Great video.  The distribution units are still available on eBay.  I
bought two today.

Regards

Steve G8EBM

-----Original Message----- From: David J Taylor
Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 11:30 AM
To: Time Nuts
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Rb video

Found this on Hack-a-day

http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=chrzrod3tQY<http://www.youtube.com/wa
tch?v=chrzrod3tQY>

Cheers

Raj, VU2ZAP
Bangalore, India.
==============================**=========

Thanks for the pointer - I enjoyed that, particularly the PIC programming!

73,
David GM8ARV

SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk
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I bought one of these DA's from the same seller and according to the user's guide the BW is 300 MHz, fully loaded. I didn't measured it but it works very well at 10 MHz. Regards, Ignacio EB4APL On 08/08/2013 3:39, Mark C. Stephens wrote: > Seems they are rated to 5MHz according to the manufacturer.. > They ebay item number is 161081736069. > > --marki > > -----Original Message----- > From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Eric Garner > Sent: Thursday, 8 August 2013 5:57 AM > To: Steve G8EBM; Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement > Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Rb video > > what's the performance of the distribution amplifier like? > > > On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 9:12 AM, Steve G8EBM <steve@g8ebm.com> wrote: > >> Great video. The distribution units are still available on eBay. I >> bought two today. >> >> Regards >> >> Steve G8EBM >> >> -----Original Message----- From: David J Taylor >> Sent: Tuesday, August 06, 2013 11:30 AM >> To: Time Nuts >> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Rb video >> >> Found this on Hack-a-day >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=chrzrod3tQY<http://www.youtube.com/wa >> tch?v=chrzrod3tQY> >> >> Cheers >> >> Raj, VU2ZAP >> Bangalore, India. >> ==============================**========= >> >> Thanks for the pointer - I enjoyed that, particularly the PIC programming! >> >> 73, >> David GM8ARV >> -- >> SatSignal Software - Quality software written to your requirements >> Web: http://www.satsignal.eu >> Email: david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk >> ______________________________**_________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/** >> mailman/listinfo/time-nuts<https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listin >> fo/time-nuts> >> and follow the instructions there. >> ______________________________**_________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to >> https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/** >> mailman/listinfo/time-nuts<https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listin >> fo/time-nuts> >> and follow the instructions there. >> > > > -- > --Eric > _________________________________________ > Eric Garner > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. >
RA
Robert Atkinson
Thu, Aug 8, 2013 4:40 PM

Hi Dave,
The "old" thin pin 75R BNC sockets are rare these days. Most equipment now uses intermateable sockets that use the same size contact as 50R but with reduced diameter dielectric to maintain the impedance match. Fully compatible with 50R without damage. The only small drawback is that the old thin pin plugs (if you have any) may not make good contact.

HTH,
Robert G8RPI.


From: Dr. David Kirkby drkirkby@gmail.com
To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement time-nuts@febo.com
Sent: Thursday, 8 August 2013, 12:08
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Rb video

On 6 August 2013 09:37, Raj vu2zap@gmail.com wrote:

Found this on Hack-a-day

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chrzrod3tQY

Cheers

--
Raj, VU2ZAP

Interesting video. I decided to but one of the distribution amps. I
already have the rubidium. There were a few things that struck me in
the video.

  1. Having a PIC to control an LED seems a bit OTT. Personally I'd just
    stick a second LED - one as a power indicator, the other as a lock
    indicator, rather than make it flash when warming up, and solid when
    locked.

  2. If one does have a flashing LED, it would be better if it is
    slower, in case there are any epilepitcs about. As someone who suffers
    from photosensitive epilepsy, I would not want it flashing any faster
    than 1 Hz. He should just about be ok, but I'd feel a bit happier if
    it was slower.

  3. I'm not really convinced there is a need to change the output
    impedance from 75 to 50 Ohms. The impedance mis-match is pretty small.

  4. More concerning to me would be the fact the output connectors are
    75 Ohm, and so would be damaged with the larger male pin of a 50 Ohm
    connector. I guess one might get away with it given one is not going
    to be disconnecting this a lot, but I think I'd buy 75 Ohm BNC plugs
    to put on one end of the cable, and 50 Ohm BNC plugs on the other end,
    sticking a bit of heatshrink on the 75 Ohm end of the cable so I know
    they are not standard BNC cables.

Hi Dave, The "old" thin pin 75R BNC sockets are rare these days. Most equipment now uses intermateable sockets that use the same size contact as 50R but with reduced diameter dielectric to maintain the impedance match. Fully compatible with 50R without damage. The only small drawback is that the old thin pin plugs (if you have any) may not make good contact. HTH, Robert G8RPI. ________________________________ From: Dr. David Kirkby <drkirkby@gmail.com> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement <time-nuts@febo.com> Sent: Thursday, 8 August 2013, 12:08 Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Rb video On 6 August 2013 09:37, Raj <vu2zap@gmail.com> wrote: > Found this on Hack-a-day > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chrzrod3tQY > > Cheers > > -- > Raj, VU2ZAP Interesting video. I decided to but one of the distribution amps. I already have the rubidium. There were a few things that struck me in the video. 1) Having a PIC to control an LED seems a bit OTT. Personally I'd just stick a second LED - one as a power indicator, the other as a lock indicator, rather than make it flash when warming up, and solid when locked. 2) If one does have a flashing LED, it would be better if it is slower, in case there are any epilepitcs about. As someone who suffers from photosensitive epilepsy, I would not want it flashing any faster than 1 Hz. He should just about be ok, but I'd feel a bit happier if it was slower. 3) I'm not really convinced there is a need to change the output impedance from 75 to 50 Ohms. The impedance mis-match is pretty small. 4) More concerning to me would be the fact the output connectors are 75 Ohm, and so would be damaged with the larger male pin of a 50 Ohm connector. I guess one might get away with it given one is not going to be disconnecting this a lot, but I think I'd buy 75 Ohm BNC plugs to put on one end of the cable, and 50 Ohm BNC plugs on the other end, sticking a bit of heatshrink on the 75 Ohm end of the cable so I know they are not standard BNC cables.
BC
Bob Camp
Thu, Aug 8, 2013 10:05 PM

Hi

Bigger is indeed better when it comes to heat sinking these Rb's. Unlike an OCXO, they run quite a bit longer if you cool them well. If you want to get fancy, you can run a speed controlled fan on the heat sink to regulate the temperature. You still want to pick a temp that's as low as you can practically get it for your control point.

I've fried a lot of Rb's over the years…..

Bob

On Aug 8, 2013, at 7:08 AM, Dr. David Kirkby drkirkby@gmail.com wrote:

On 6 August 2013 09:37, Raj vu2zap@gmail.com wrote:

Found this on Hack-a-day

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chrzrod3tQY

Cheers

--
Raj, VU2ZAP

Interesting video. I decided to but one of the distribution amps. I
already have the rubidium. There were a few things that struck me in
the video.

  1. Having a PIC to control an LED seems a bit OTT. Personally I'd just
    stick a second LED - one as a power indicator, the other as a lock
    indicator, rather than make it flash when warming up, and solid when
    locked.

  2. If one does have a flashing LED, it would be better if it is
    slower, in case there are any epilepitcs about. As someone who suffers
    from photosensitive epilepsy, I would not want it flashing any faster
    than 1 Hz. He should just about be ok, but I'd feel a bit happier if
    it was slower.

  3. I'm not really convinced there is a need to change the output
    impedance from 75 to 50 Ohms. The impedance mis-match is pretty small.

  4. More concerning to me would be the fact the output connectors are
    75 Ohm, and so would be damaged with the larger male pin of a 50 Ohm
    connector. I guess one might get away with it given one is not going
    to be disconnecting this a lot, but I think I'd buy 75 Ohm BNC plugs
    to put on one end of the cable, and 50 Ohm BNC plugs on the other end,
    sticking a bit of heatshrink on the 75 Ohm end of the cable so I know
    they are not standard BNC cables.

  5. I wondered if there is enough cooling air there? What size heatsink
    would be optimal? I think unlike most electronics, one does not want
    to cool the rubidiums too much, so "bigger is better" might not apply
    here.

  6. Is the use of a SMPS a good idea? I thought the Rb oscillators
    should be powered from a linear supply. I don;t suppose it is possible
    to get a linear power supply in there.

  7. He scrapped the BNCs configured as digital lines. I would have
    thought it worthwhile bringing out a 1 pps output, which I think those
    Rb oscillators have.

  8. I wonder if one could fit a GPS locking module in that box and
    antenna connector on the box.

  9. It will look very odd to have the heatsink as the front panel !!
    But I guess that is a small price to pay for getting a reasonably
    sized box and

  10. I suspect the box will be hard to keep in place, since with a
    dozen or so BNCs on the rear, that is going to go where the cables
    tell it to go, rather than the other way around. Perhaps a heavy
    heatsink will mittigate that.

  11. If I recall correctly, there is a way of adjusting the freqency of
    those rubidiums, though I guess for the intended application, a Rb is
    plenty good enough. I know it is for me, but perhaps not for a
    dedicated time-nut.

Dave, G8WRB


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Hi Bigger is indeed better when it comes to heat sinking these Rb's. Unlike an OCXO, they run quite a bit longer if you cool them well. If you want to get fancy, you can run a speed controlled fan on the heat sink to regulate the temperature. You still want to pick a temp that's as low as you can practically get it for your control point. I've fried a *lot* of Rb's over the years….. Bob On Aug 8, 2013, at 7:08 AM, Dr. David Kirkby <drkirkby@gmail.com> wrote: > On 6 August 2013 09:37, Raj <vu2zap@gmail.com> wrote: >> Found this on Hack-a-day >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chrzrod3tQY >> >> Cheers >> >> -- >> Raj, VU2ZAP > > Interesting video. I decided to but one of the distribution amps. I > already have the rubidium. There were a few things that struck me in > the video. > > 1) Having a PIC to control an LED seems a bit OTT. Personally I'd just > stick a second LED - one as a power indicator, the other as a lock > indicator, rather than make it flash when warming up, and solid when > locked. > > 2) If one does have a flashing LED, it would be better if it is > slower, in case there are any epilepitcs about. As someone who suffers > from photosensitive epilepsy, I would not want it flashing any faster > than 1 Hz. He should just about be ok, but I'd feel a bit happier if > it was slower. > > 3) I'm not really convinced there is a need to change the output > impedance from 75 to 50 Ohms. The impedance mis-match is pretty small. > > 4) More concerning to me would be the fact the output connectors are > 75 Ohm, and so would be damaged with the larger male pin of a 50 Ohm > connector. I guess one might get away with it given one is not going > to be disconnecting this a lot, but I think I'd buy 75 Ohm BNC plugs > to put on one end of the cable, and 50 Ohm BNC plugs on the other end, > sticking a bit of heatshrink on the 75 Ohm end of the cable so I know > they are not standard BNC cables. > > 5) I wondered if there is enough cooling air there? What size heatsink > would be optimal? I think unlike most electronics, one does not want > to cool the rubidiums too much, so "bigger is better" might not apply > here. > > 6) Is the use of a SMPS a good idea? I thought the Rb oscillators > should be powered from a linear supply. I don;t suppose it is possible > to get a linear power supply in there. > > 7) He scrapped the BNCs configured as digital lines. I would have > thought it worthwhile bringing out a 1 pps output, which I think those > Rb oscillators have. > > 8) I wonder if one could fit a GPS locking module in that box and > antenna connector on the box. > > 9) It will look very odd to have the heatsink as the front panel !! > But I guess that is a small price to pay for getting a reasonably > sized box and > > 10) I suspect the box will be hard to keep in place, since with a > dozen or so BNCs on the rear, that is going to go where the cables > tell it to go, rather than the other way around. Perhaps a heavy > heatsink will mittigate that. > > 11) If I recall correctly, there is a way of adjusting the freqency of > those rubidiums, though I guess for the intended application, a Rb is > plenty good enough. I know it is for me, but perhaps not for a > dedicated time-nut. > > Dave, G8WRB > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.