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BL
Bruce Lane
Fri, Apr 20, 2007 1:21 AM
Discussions involving audiphoolery, particularly where silly things like $500 knobs and "atomic" references for CD writing are involved, never fail to amuse me.

With that in mind, and given the current thread about Antelope Audio, I feel compelled to point out a link which, I think, illustrates one of the peaks to which "audiophools" will go to satisfy their obsessions.

http://www.monstercable.com/productDisplay.asp?pin=195

I invite all to have a good chuckle over this one. ;-)

Keep the peace(es).

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Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy,
Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com
kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech do/t c=o=m
"If Salvador Dali had owned a computer, would it have been equipped with surreal ports?"

Discussions involving audiphoolery, particularly where silly things like $500 knobs and "atomic" references for CD writing are involved, never fail to amuse me. With that in mind, and given the current thread about Antelope Audio, I feel compelled to point out a link which, I think, illustrates one of the peaks to which "audiophools" will go to satisfy their obsessions. http://www.monstercable.com/productDisplay.asp?pin=195 I invite all to have a good chuckle over this one. ;-) Keep the peace(es). -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy, Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech do/t c=o=m "If Salvador Dali had owned a computer, would it have been equipped with surreal ports?"
NJ
Neon John
Fri, Apr 20, 2007 1:50 AM

On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 18:21:28 -0700, "Bruce Lane"
kyrrin@bluefeathertech.com wrote:

http://www.monstercable.com/productDisplay.asp?pin=195

I invite all to have a good chuckle over this one. ;-)

That's absurd but if you want to delve into the tin-foil hat areas,
google for "speaker cable ager."  I just can't bring myself to do so.

In short, some of the tin-foil hat types claim that a speaker cable
has to be aged with pink noise (the spectrum of which is vigorously
debated) before connecting to the system.  A few companies sell aging
boxes and several others offer the 'service'.  There also seems to be
some debate on whether the pink noise has to actually pass a current
through the cable or if its just being there is enough to do the
aging.

At that same altitude of looniness - waaaaaay out there - is the $50K
turntable where the works float on a pool of mercury contained in a
hollowed out lake on the top of about 2 tons of solid marble block.  I
used to have the URL to this thing but I can't seem to find it.

Oh, and while we're at it, there's a company manufacturing (for about
$80 each) beeswax paper capacitors like we grew to know and hate in
old tube-type stuff.  When I do a period-correct restoration of an old
radio I hollow out these damnable caps and put something modern
inside.  The loonies claim these old paper caps are more "colorful"
even if it's only used as a screen bypass cap.

John

John De Armond
See my website for my current email address
http://www.neon-john.com
Cleveland, Occupied TN
All great things are simple and many can be expressed in single words:
Freedom, Justice, Honor, Duty, Mercy, Hope.  -Churchill

On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 18:21:28 -0700, "Bruce Lane" <kyrrin@bluefeathertech.com> wrote: > http://www.monstercable.com/productDisplay.asp?pin=195 > > I invite all to have a good chuckle over this one. ;-) That's absurd but if you want to delve into the tin-foil hat areas, google for "speaker cable ager." I just can't bring myself to do so. In short, some of the tin-foil hat types claim that a speaker cable has to be aged with pink noise (the spectrum of which is vigorously debated) before connecting to the system. A few companies sell aging boxes and several others offer the 'service'. There also seems to be some debate on whether the pink noise has to actually pass a current through the cable or if its just being there is enough to do the aging. At that same altitude of looniness - waaaaaay out there - is the $50K turntable where the works float on a pool of mercury contained in a hollowed out lake on the top of about 2 tons of solid marble block. I used to have the URL to this thing but I can't seem to find it. Oh, and while we're at it, there's a company manufacturing (for about $80 each) beeswax paper capacitors like we grew to know and hate in old tube-type stuff. When I do a period-correct restoration of an old radio I hollow out these damnable caps and put something modern inside. The loonies claim these old paper caps are more "colorful" even if it's only used as a screen bypass cap. John --- John De Armond See my website for my current email address http://www.neon-john.com Cleveland, Occupied TN All great things are simple and many can be expressed in single words: Freedom, Justice, Honor, Duty, Mercy, Hope. -Churchill
DB
Dr Bruce Griffiths
Fri, Apr 20, 2007 2:12 AM

Neon John wrote:

At that same altitude of looniness - waaaaaay out there - is the $50K
turntable where the works float on a pool of mercury contained in a
hollowed out lake on the top of about 2 tons of solid marble block.  I
used to have the URL to this thing but I can't seem to find it.

John

Whoever devised that had probably breathed too much mercury vapour.
Mercury pools are exquisitely sensitive to seismic and traffic vibrations.
The usual way around this is to use a thin layer of mercury possibly with an oil film on top.
When used in a parabolic dish and spun up using airbearing drive a thin mercury film makes a high quality transit telescope.

Bruce

Neon John wrote: > At that same altitude of looniness - waaaaaay out there - is the $50K > turntable where the works float on a pool of mercury contained in a > hollowed out lake on the top of about 2 tons of solid marble block. I > used to have the URL to this thing but I can't seem to find it. > > John Whoever devised that had probably breathed too much mercury vapour. Mercury pools are exquisitely sensitive to seismic and traffic vibrations. The usual way around this is to use a thin layer of mercury possibly with an oil film on top. When used in a parabolic dish and spun up using airbearing drive a thin mercury film makes a high quality transit telescope. Bruce
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Dr. David Kirkby
Fri, Apr 20, 2007 2:32 AM

On Fri, 2007-04-20 at 02:21, Bruce Lane wrote:

Discussions involving audiphoolery, particularly where silly things like $500 knobs and "atomic" references for CD writing are involved, never fail to amuse me.

With that in mind, and given the current thread about Antelope Audio, I feel compelled to point out a link which, I think, illustrates one of the peaks to which "audiophools" will go to satisfy their obsessions.

http://www.monstercable.com/productDisplay.asp?pin=195

I invite all to have a good chuckle over this one. ;-)

Keep the peace(es).

Take a look at this "Aromatherapy and Audiophools" which appeared in
Electronics World and Wireless World, October 1999. I thought it was so
funny I scanned it and stuck it on my web site.

http://www.g8wrb.org/useful-stuff/audiophools.pdf

On Fri, 2007-04-20 at 02:21, Bruce Lane wrote: > Discussions involving audiphoolery, particularly where silly things like $500 knobs and "atomic" references for CD writing are involved, never fail to amuse me. > > With that in mind, and given the current thread about Antelope Audio, I feel compelled to point out a link which, I think, illustrates one of the peaks to which "audiophools" will go to satisfy their obsessions. > > http://www.monstercable.com/productDisplay.asp?pin=195 > > I invite all to have a good chuckle over this one. ;-) > > Keep the peace(es). Take a look at this "Aromatherapy and Audiophools" which appeared in Electronics World and Wireless World, October 1999. I thought it was so funny I scanned it and stuck it on my web site. http://www.g8wrb.org/useful-stuff/audiophools.pdf
BL
Bruce Lane
Fri, Apr 20, 2007 4:15 AM
Thanks, Dave. Archived and stored. ;-)

*********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********

On 20-Apr-07 at 03:32 Dr. David Kirkby wrote:

On Fri, 2007-04-20 at 02:21, Bruce Lane wrote:

Discussions involving audiphoolery, particularly where silly things

like $500 knobs and "atomic" references for CD writing are involved, never
fail to amuse me.

With that in mind, and given the current thread about Antelope Audio, I

feel compelled to point out a link which, I think, illustrates one of the
peaks to which "audiophools" will go to satisfy their obsessions.

http://www.monstercable.com/productDisplay.asp?pin=195

I invite all to have a good chuckle over this one. ;-)

Keep the peace(es).

Take a look at this "Aromatherapy and Audiophools" which appeared in
Electronics World and Wireless World, October 1999. I thought it was so
funny I scanned it and stuck it on my web site.

http://www.g8wrb.org/useful-stuff/audiophools.pdf


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"If Salvador Dali had owned a computer, would it have been equipped with surreal ports?"

Thanks, Dave. Archived and stored. ;-) *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** On 20-Apr-07 at 03:32 Dr. David Kirkby wrote: >On Fri, 2007-04-20 at 02:21, Bruce Lane wrote: >> Discussions involving audiphoolery, particularly where silly things >like $500 knobs and "atomic" references for CD writing are involved, never >fail to amuse me. >> >> With that in mind, and given the current thread about Antelope Audio, I >feel compelled to point out a link which, I think, illustrates one of the >peaks to which "audiophools" will go to satisfy their obsessions. >> >> http://www.monstercable.com/productDisplay.asp?pin=195 >> >> I invite all to have a good chuckle over this one. ;-) >> >> Keep the peace(es). > > >Take a look at this "Aromatherapy and Audiophools" which appeared in >Electronics World and Wireless World, October 1999. I thought it was so >funny I scanned it and stuck it on my web site. > > >http://www.g8wrb.org/useful-stuff/audiophools.pdf > > > >_______________________________________________ >time-nuts mailing list >time-nuts@febo.com >https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy, Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech do/t c=o=m "If Salvador Dali had owned a computer, would it have been equipped with surreal ports?"
JP
John Pettitt
Fri, Apr 20, 2007 5:03 AM

Dr. David Kirkby wrote:

On Fri, 2007-04-20 at 02:21, Bruce Lane wrote:

Discussions involving audiphoolery, particularly where silly things like $500 knobs and "atomic" references for CD writing are involved, never fail to amuse me.

With that in mind, and given the current thread about Antelope Audio, I feel compelled to point out a link which, I think, illustrates one of the peaks to which "audiophools" will go to satisfy their obsessions.

http://www.monstercable.com/productDisplay.asp?pin=195

I invite all to have a good chuckle over this one. ;-)

Keep the peace(es).

Take a look at this "Aromatherapy and Audiophools" which appeared in
Electronics World and Wireless World, October 1999. I thought it was so
funny I scanned it and stuck it on my web site.

http://www.g8wrb.org/useful-stuff/audiophools.pdf

I still remember the mercury filled speaker wires post - see also

http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/hall/8701/Audio_BS.htm

and in case anybody still needs convincing

http://www.avreview.co.uk/news/article/mps/UAN/632/v/3/sp/332683698431330268420

"*Harmonic Technology Fantasy

*In our test system Fantasy proved to be an extremely charming cable, it
is extremely fine and smooth while being able to resolve detail with
ease. Acoustic space is well defined and instrument tone is pretty good
too."

Excuse me while I gag.  $900 for a par of 3m wires!

John

Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > On Fri, 2007-04-20 at 02:21, Bruce Lane wrote: > >> Discussions involving audiphoolery, particularly where silly things like $500 knobs and "atomic" references for CD writing are involved, never fail to amuse me. >> >> With that in mind, and given the current thread about Antelope Audio, I feel compelled to point out a link which, I think, illustrates one of the peaks to which "audiophools" will go to satisfy their obsessions. >> >> http://www.monstercable.com/productDisplay.asp?pin=195 >> >> I invite all to have a good chuckle over this one. ;-) >> >> Keep the peace(es). >> > > > Take a look at this "Aromatherapy and Audiophools" which appeared in > Electronics World and Wireless World, October 1999. I thought it was so > funny I scanned it and stuck it on my web site. > > > http://www.g8wrb.org/useful-stuff/audiophools.pdf > > I still remember the mercury filled speaker wires post - see also http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/hall/8701/Audio_BS.htm and in case anybody still needs convincing http://www.avreview.co.uk/news/article/mps/UAN/632/v/3/sp/332683698431330268420 "*Harmonic Technology Fantasy *In our test system Fantasy proved to be an extremely charming cable, it is extremely fine and smooth while being able to resolve detail with ease. Acoustic space is well defined and instrument tone is pretty good too." Excuse me while I gag. $900 for a par of 3m wires! John
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Thomas A. Frank
Fri, Apr 20, 2007 5:43 AM

Take a look at this "Aromatherapy and Audiophools" which appeared in
Electronics World and Wireless World, October 1999. I thought it was so
funny I scanned it and stuck it on my web site.

Wonderful!  Many thanks for that.

My favorite story in this department involved a visit to a friend who
was one of 'those people'.

So, to test his critical listening skills vis-a-vis the quality of his
multi-thousands of dollars in equipment,
we had him put on his favorite, best source, sit and listen while we
adjusted the controls on the set until he
said we had gotten the sound just perfect.

We switched back and forth, once we had the setting he thought sounded
best, to what he had argued was best.

The debate had been between whether the tone settings should be flat or
not.  Didn't matter.

The setting he thought sounded far and away the best?  Mono

We were never regaled with stories of his superb equipment or critical
listening again.

Tom Frank

> Take a look at this "Aromatherapy and Audiophools" which appeared in > Electronics World and Wireless World, October 1999. I thought it was so > funny I scanned it and stuck it on my web site. Wonderful! Many thanks for that. My favorite story in this department involved a visit to a friend who was one of 'those people'. So, to test his critical listening skills vis-a-vis the quality of his multi-thousands of dollars in equipment, we had him put on his favorite, best source, sit and listen while we adjusted the controls on the set until he said we had gotten the sound just perfect. We switched back and forth, once we had the setting he thought sounded best, to what he had argued was best. The debate had been between whether the tone settings should be flat or not. Didn't matter. The setting he thought sounded far and away the best? *Mono* We were never regaled with stories of his superb equipment or critical listening again. Tom Frank
DF
David Forbes
Fri, Apr 20, 2007 6:53 AM

At 10:03 PM -0700 4/19/07, John Pettitt wrote:

Excuse me while I gag.  $900 for a par of 3m wires!

John

I actually have heard a difference in speaker cables once - albeit in
a system with six woofers wired in parallel. The resulting 2 ohm
impedance required a serious Phase Linear 800 watt amplifier and some
really big speaker cables to sound half-decent. These speakers,
driven by a 100W consumer Kenwood amp and/or 16 gauge zip cord,
sounded rather thin.

Of course, the solution was 12 gauge zip cord that cost 15 cents per foot.

--

--David Forbes, Tucson, AZ
http://www.cathodecorner.com/

At 10:03 PM -0700 4/19/07, John Pettitt wrote: > >Excuse me while I gag. $900 for a par of 3m wires! > >John I actually have heard a difference in speaker cables once - albeit in a system with six woofers wired in parallel. The resulting 2 ohm impedance required a serious Phase Linear 800 watt amplifier and some really big speaker cables to sound half-decent. These speakers, driven by a 100W consumer Kenwood amp and/or 16 gauge zip cord, sounded rather thin. Of course, the solution was 12 gauge zip cord that cost 15 cents per foot. -- --David Forbes, Tucson, AZ http://www.cathodecorner.com/
RK
Rob Kimberley
Fri, Apr 20, 2007 7:15 AM

Wow, got to get one!!!!

:-)

Rob K

PS just goes to show how stupid a lot of people are out there in ga ga land.

-----Original Message-----
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Behalf Of Bruce Lane
Sent: 20 April 2007 02:21
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: [time-nuts] OT: Audiophoolery

Discussions involving audiphoolery, particularly where silly things

like $500 knobs and "atomic" references for CD writing are involved, never
fail to amuse me.

With that in mind, and given the current thread about Antelope

Audio, I feel compelled to point out a link which, I think, illustrates one
of the peaks to which "audiophools" will go to satisfy their obsessions.

http://www.monstercable.com/productDisplay.asp?pin=195

I invite all to have a good chuckle over this one. ;-)

Keep the peace(es).

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy, Blue Feather Technologies --
http://www.bluefeathertech.com kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech do/t c=o=m "If
Salvador Dali had owned a computer, would it have been equipped with surreal
ports?"


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Wow, got to get one!!!! :-) Rob K PS just goes to show how stupid a lot of people are out there in ga ga land. -----Original Message----- From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Bruce Lane Sent: 20 April 2007 02:21 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] OT: Audiophoolery Discussions involving audiphoolery, particularly where silly things like $500 knobs and "atomic" references for CD writing are involved, never fail to amuse me. With that in mind, and given the current thread about Antelope Audio, I feel compelled to point out a link which, I think, illustrates one of the peaks to which "audiophools" will go to satisfy their obsessions. http://www.monstercable.com/productDisplay.asp?pin=195 I invite all to have a good chuckle over this one. ;-) Keep the peace(es). -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Bruce Lane, Owner & Head Hardware Heavy, Blue Feather Technologies -- http://www.bluefeathertech.com kyrrin (at) bluefeathertech do/t c=o=m "If Salvador Dali had owned a computer, would it have been equipped with surreal ports?" _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@febo.com https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
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Magnus Danielson
Fri, Apr 20, 2007 7:59 AM

From: John Pettitt jpp@cloudview.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] OT: Audiophoolery
Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 22:03:22 -0700
Message-ID: 4628499A.7070206@cloudview.com

Dr. David Kirkby wrote:

On Fri, 2007-04-20 at 02:21, Bruce Lane wrote:

Discussions involving audiphoolery, particularly where silly things like $500 knobs and "atomic" references for CD writing are involved, never fail to amuse me.

With that in mind, and given the current thread about Antelope Audio, I feel compelled to point out a link which, I think, illustrates one of the peaks to which "audiophools" will go to satisfy their obsessions.

http://www.monstercable.com/productDisplay.asp?pin=195

I invite all to have a good chuckle over this one. ;-)

Keep the peace(es).

Take a look at this "Aromatherapy and Audiophools" which appeared in
Electronics World and Wireless World, October 1999. I thought it was so
funny I scanned it and stuck it on my web site.

http://www.g8wrb.org/useful-stuff/audiophools.pdf

I still remember the mercury filled speaker wires post - see also

http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/hall/8701/Audio_BS.htm

and in case anybody still needs convincing

http://www.avreview.co.uk/news/article/mps/UAN/632/v/3/sp/332683698431330268420

"*Harmonic Technology Fantasy

*In our test system Fantasy proved to be an extremely charming cable, it
is extremely fine and smooth while being able to resolve detail with
ease. Acoustic space is well defined and instrument tone is pretty good
too."

Excuse me while I gag.  $900 for a par of 3m wires!

I'm just awaiting that the heavy water cables is showing up. $900 for a pair of
3m wires is a bargain! :P

Dead-sea saltwater would probably make better conductors thought.

Cheers,
Magnus

From: John Pettitt <jpp@cloudview.com> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] OT: Audiophoolery Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 22:03:22 -0700 Message-ID: <4628499A.7070206@cloudview.com> > Dr. David Kirkby wrote: > > On Fri, 2007-04-20 at 02:21, Bruce Lane wrote: > > > >> Discussions involving audiphoolery, particularly where silly things like $500 knobs and "atomic" references for CD writing are involved, never fail to amuse me. > >> > >> With that in mind, and given the current thread about Antelope Audio, I feel compelled to point out a link which, I think, illustrates one of the peaks to which "audiophools" will go to satisfy their obsessions. > >> > >> http://www.monstercable.com/productDisplay.asp?pin=195 > >> > >> I invite all to have a good chuckle over this one. ;-) > >> > >> Keep the peace(es). > >> > > > > > > Take a look at this "Aromatherapy and Audiophools" which appeared in > > Electronics World and Wireless World, October 1999. I thought it was so > > funny I scanned it and stuck it on my web site. > > > > > > http://www.g8wrb.org/useful-stuff/audiophools.pdf > > > > > I still remember the mercury filled speaker wires post - see also > > http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/hall/8701/Audio_BS.htm > > and in case anybody still needs convincing > > http://www.avreview.co.uk/news/article/mps/UAN/632/v/3/sp/332683698431330268420 > > "*Harmonic Technology Fantasy > > *In our test system Fantasy proved to be an extremely charming cable, it > is extremely fine and smooth while being able to resolve detail with > ease. Acoustic space is well defined and instrument tone is pretty good > too." > > Excuse me while I gag. $900 for a par of 3m wires! I'm just awaiting that the heavy water cables is showing up. $900 for a pair of 3m wires is a bargain! :P Dead-sea saltwater would probably make better conductors thought. Cheers, Magnus