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All Refuges Closed

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David F Provencher (Generation - 4)
Tue, Oct 1, 2013 8:35 PM

Far from despised Barbara. I agree with your post. The majority of those on the "front lines" of refuges, parks, and monuments, care very much about what they do. Simply looking at what they get paid should be a strong clue that they are not in it just for personal gain or for some nefarious scheme. They do not have easy jobs. Everyone, and I do mean everyone, has their idea of how things should be done. There has to be rules and rule enforcers, and not everyone will like them. I don't like some of the rules myself, but without them there would be no place safe from ATVs, indiscriminant camping (I could show you some nasty long lasting environmental damage above treeline in the White Mts caused by improper camping), dirt bikes, monster trucks, etc. And every interest group seems to say the same thing, "Its public land so I should be able to do what I like where I like when I like." Check out Wyoming's public lands future prospects if you want to see where that leads.

The shutdown is not what men and women in service uniform want either. Would any of us want to be in their shoes today, wondering if they'll get paid while having to field angry questions and unfair accusations from the public? My desk job seems a tad easier today in that context. And I doubt the people who caused the shutdown read CTBirds, so please write your elected officials and express your position.

Dave

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Far from despised Barbara. I agree with your post. The majority of those on the "front lines" of refuges, parks, and monuments, care very much about what they do. Simply looking at what they get paid should be a strong clue that they are not in it just for personal gain or for some nefarious scheme. They do not have easy jobs. Everyone, and I do mean everyone, has their idea of how things should be done. There has to be rules and rule enforcers, and not everyone will like them. I don't like some of the rules myself, but without them there would be no place safe from ATVs, indiscriminant camping (I could show you some nasty long lasting environmental damage above treeline in the White Mts caused by improper camping), dirt bikes, monster trucks, etc. And every interest group seems to say the same thing, "Its public land so I should be able to do what I like where I like when I like." Check out Wyoming's public lands future prospects if you want to see where that leads. The shutdown is not what men and women in service uniform want either. Would any of us want to be in their shoes today, wondering if they'll get paid while having to field angry questions and unfair accusations from the public? My desk job seems a tad easier today in that context. And I doubt the people who caused the shutdown read CTBirds, so please write your elected officials and express your position. Dave David Provencher CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This electronic message contains information which may be legally confidential and/or privileged and does not in any case represent a firm ENERGY COMMODITY bid or offer relating thereto which binds the sender without an additional express written confirmation to that effect. The information is intended solely for the individual or entity named above and access by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the contents of this information is prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this electronic transmission in error, please reply immediately to the sender that you have received the message in error, and delete it. Thank you.
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Greg Hanisek
Tue, Oct 1, 2013 9:35 PM

My son-in-law is a US Forest Service law enforcement ranger in the Green Mountain National Forest in VT. He's considered "essential" and continues to work. We have a family vacation coming up in mid-Oct in RI. If the situation remains the same, he won't be able to go. Definitely won't be in a good mood while looking for illegal campers, pot growers etc.

Greg Hanisek
Waterbury
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From: Roy Harvey [mailto:rmharvey@snet.net]
To: CTBirds [mailto:ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org]
Sent: Tue, 01 Oct 2013 16:09:43 -0500
Subject: Re: [CT Birds] All Refuges Closed

FYI, what I heard is that the law enforcement arm of the USF&WS is NOT part of the shutdown.  It wouldn't surprise me to find that the situation leaves them with more time than usual to patrol, nor would I be surprised if their patience was a bit limited under the circumstances.  But everyone can make up their own minds.

Roy Harvey
Beacon Falls, CT


From: Mark Szantyr birdinggeek@gmail.com
To: Sharon Abner sharonorganist@hotmail.com
Cc: "ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org" ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: [CT Birds] All Refuges Closed

Camping at McKinney. I love it!

Mark

On Oct 1, 2013, at 3:15 PM, Sharon Abner sharonorganist@hotmail.com wrote:

You go, rebels!

From: birdinggeek@gmail.com
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 15:11:21 -0400
To: lwebbe@optonline.net
CC: ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org
Subject: Re: [CT Birds] All Refuges Closed

And dince no FWS cops about, maybe an occupy movement till they get back to work

Mark

On Oct 1, 2013, at 2:06 PM, lwebbe@optonline.net wrote:

This whole thing makes me sick. I definately will enter the refuges if I can. Rebels unite!

----- Original Message -----
From: Carol Bauby
Date: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 1:28 pm
Subject: Re: [CT Birds] All Refuges Closed
To: ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org

Do like the WWII veterans did in Washington when their Honor
Flight took
them to see 'their' memorial. They moved the barricades.

Carol in Harwinton

On 10/1/2013 1:13 PM, Mark Szantyr wrote:

I don't think we should let a beaurocratic pissing match stop

us from entering OUR land.

ACT UP!

Mark

On Oct 1, 2013, at 9:39 AM, "Comins, Patrick"

wrote:

Due to a lapse in appropriations, all U.S. Fish and Wildlife

Service lands, including the Stewart B. McKinney National
Wildlife Refuge and Silvio O. Conte National Fish and Wildlife
Refuge, are closed for the duration of the federal government
shutdown. All lands and facilities are closed and all programs
and activities are cancelled. For more information, please
visit www.doi.gov/shutdown.

Patrick

Patrick M. Comins
Director of Bird Conservation

Audubon Connecticut
185 East Flat Hill Road
Southbury, CT 06488

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My son-in-law is a US Forest Service law enforcement ranger in the Green Mountain National Forest in VT. He's considered "essential" and continues to work. We have a family vacation coming up in mid-Oct in RI. If the situation remains the same, he won't be able to go. Definitely won't be in a good mood while looking for illegal campers, pot growers etc. Greg Hanisek Waterbury _____ From: Roy Harvey [mailto:rmharvey@snet.net] To: CTBirds [mailto:ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org] Sent: Tue, 01 Oct 2013 16:09:43 -0500 Subject: Re: [CT Birds] All Refuges Closed FYI, what I heard is that the law enforcement arm of the USF&WS is NOT part of the shutdown. It wouldn't surprise me to find that the situation leaves them with more time than usual to patrol, nor would I be surprised if their patience was a bit limited under the circumstances. But everyone can make up their own minds. Roy Harvey Beacon Falls, CT __________________ From: Mark Szantyr <birdinggeek@gmail.com> To: Sharon Abner <sharonorganist@hotmail.com> Cc: "ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org" <ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org> Sent: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [CT Birds] All Refuges Closed Camping at McKinney. I love it! Mark On Oct 1, 2013, at 3:15 PM, Sharon Abner <sharonorganist@hotmail.com> wrote: > You go, rebels! > > > From: birdinggeek@gmail.com > > Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2013 15:11:21 -0400 > > To: lwebbe@optonline.net > > CC: ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org > > Subject: Re: [CT Birds] All Refuges Closed > > > > And dince no FWS cops about, maybe an occupy movement till they get back to work > > > > Mark > > > > On Oct 1, 2013, at 2:06 PM, lwebbe@optonline.net wrote: > > > > > This whole thing makes me sick. I definately will enter the refuges if I can. Rebels unite! > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Carol Bauby > > > Date: Tuesday, October 1, 2013 1:28 pm > > > Subject: Re: [CT Birds] All Refuges Closed > > > To: ctbirds@lists.ctbirding.org > > > > > >> Do like the WWII veterans did in Washington when their Honor > > >> Flight took > > >> them to see 'their' memorial. They moved the barricades. > > >> > > >> Carol in Harwinton > > >> > > >> On 10/1/2013 1:13 PM, Mark Szantyr wrote: > > >>> I don't think we should let a beaurocratic pissing match stop > > >> us from entering OUR land. > > >>> > > >>> ACT UP! > > >>> > > >>> Mark > > >>> > > >>> On Oct 1, 2013, at 9:39 AM, "Comins, Patrick" > > >> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> Due to a lapse in appropriations, all U.S. Fish and Wildlife > > >> Service lands, including the Stewart B. McKinney National > > >> Wildlife Refuge and Silvio O. Conte National Fish and Wildlife > > >> Refuge, are closed for the duration of the federal government > > >> shutdown. All lands and facilities are closed and all programs > > >> and activities are cancelled. For more information, please > > >> visit www.doi.gov/shutdown. > > >>>> Patrick > > >>>> > > >>>> Patrick M. Comins > > >>>> Director of Bird Conservation > > >>>> > > >>>> Audubon Connecticut > > >>>> 185 East Flat Hill Road > > >>>> Southbury, CT 06488 > > >>>> > > >>>> Phone: (203)264-5098 x308 > > >>>> Fax: (203)264-6332 > > >>>> > > >>>> pcomins@audubon.org > > >>>> http://ct.audubon.org/conservation-efforts > > >>>> Audubon Connecticut is on Facebook: > > >> http://www.facebook.com/AudubonCT>> The Audubon Alliance for > > >> Coastal Waterbirds is on Facebook: > > >> https://www.facebook.com/pages/Audubon-Alliance-for-Coastal- > > >> Waterbirds/168520783251234>> Our blog: > > >> http://ctwaterbirds.blogspot.com/>> Friends of Conte is on > > >> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Friends-of-the-Silvio-O- > > >> Conte-National-Fish-and-Wildlife-Refuge/121976791147545?v=wall > > >>>> _______________________________________________ This list is provided by the Connecticut Ornithological Association (COA) for the discussion of birds and birding in Connecticut. For subscription information visit http://lists.ctbirding.org/mailman/listinfo/ctbirds_lists.ctbirding.org