Hi Sport contributors
Today while browsing the seaside repository I saw that there is a Seaside30LGPL and I was puzzled. I looked and I saw that this is because it uses Sport and Sport is licensed under
LGPL (probably the only packages in mainstream Smalltalk). I asked Bruce if Sport could be relicensed or have a dual license MIT/LGPL here is his answer:
Steph,
We've had this discussion before, and as before I'm fine with this in principle but it's not me alone to say. Sport for different dialects was written by different people.
Sent from my phone. Please forgive brevity.
So if you participated to Sport can you reply to this mail so that we can get a dual license LGPL/MIT.
And yes I'm nervous about mixing licenses in an image-based system that a infinite minority
of programmers understand or even know.
Stef
Hi Stef,
I as a porter od Sport to Squeak/Pharo am all for Sport to be MIT
licensed. As I understand past conversations with Bruce the dialect
porter/maintainer approval is then a satisfying condition for Sport on
Squeak/Pharo to be MIT licensed.
Best regards
Janko
Dne 18. 07. 2013 12:19, piše Stéphane Ducasse:
Hi Sport contributors
Today while browsing the seaside repository I saw that there is a
Seaside30LGPL and I was puzzled. I looked and I saw that this is because
it uses Sport and Sport is licensed under
LGPL (probably the only packages in mainstream Smalltalk). I asked Bruce
if Sport could be relicensed or have a dual license MIT/LGPL here is his
answer:
Steph,
We've had this discussion before, and as before I'm fine with this in
principle but it's not me alone to say. Sport for different dialects
was written by different people.
Sent from my phone. Please forgive brevity.
So if you participated to Sport can you reply to this mail so that we
can get a dual license LGPL/MIT.
And yes I'm nervous about mixing licenses in an image-based system that
a infinite minority
of programmers understand or even know.
Stef
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thanks Janko :)
On Jul 18, 2013, at 12:44 PM, Janko Mivšek janko.mivsek@eranova.si wrote:
Hi Stef,
I as a porter od Sport to Squeak/Pharo am all for Sport to be MIT
licensed. As I understand past conversations with Bruce the dialect
porter/maintainer approval is then a satisfying condition for Sport on
Squeak/Pharo to be MIT licensed.
Best regards
Janko
Dne 18. 07. 2013 12:19, piše Stéphane Ducasse:
Hi Sport contributors
Today while browsing the seaside repository I saw that there is a
Seaside30LGPL and I was puzzled. I looked and I saw that this is because
it uses Sport and Sport is licensed under
LGPL (probably the only packages in mainstream Smalltalk). I asked Bruce
if Sport could be relicensed or have a dual license MIT/LGPL here is his
answer:
Steph,
We've had this discussion before, and as before I'm fine with this in
principle but it's not me alone to say. Sport for different dialects
was written by different people.
Sent from my phone. Please forgive brevity.
So if you participated to Sport can you reply to this mail so that we
can get a dual license LGPL/MIT.
And yes I'm nervous about mixing licenses in an image-based system that
a infinite minority
of programmers understand or even know.
Stef
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On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 11:05 AM, Stéphane Ducasse <
stephane.ducasse@inria.fr> wrote:
thanks Janko :)
On Jul 18, 2013, at 12:44 PM, Janko Mivšek janko.mivsek@eranova.si
wrote:
Hi Stef,
I as a porter od Sport to Squeak/Pharo am all for Sport to be MIT
licensed. As I understand past conversations with Bruce the dialect
porter/maintainer approval is then a satisfying condition for Sport on
Squeak/Pharo to be MIT licensed.
Best regards
Janko
Dne 18. 07. 2013 12:19, piše Stéphane Ducasse:
Hi Sport contributors
Today while browsing the seaside repository I saw that there is a
Seaside30LGPL and I was puzzled. I looked and I saw that this is because
it uses Sport and Sport is licensed under
LGPL (probably the only packages in mainstream Smalltalk). I asked Bruce
if Sport could be relicensed or have a dual license MIT/LGPL here is his
answer:
Steph,
We've had this discussion before, and as before I'm fine with this in
principle but it's not me alone to say. Sport for different dialects
was written by different people.
Sent from my phone. Please forgive brevity.
So if you participated to Sport can you reply to this mail so that we
can get a dual license LGPL/MIT.
And yes I'm nervous about mixing licenses in an image-based system that
a infinite minority
of programmers understand or even know.
Stef
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On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Stéphane Ducasse
stephane.ducasse@inria.fr wrote:
And yes I'm nervous about mixing licenses in an image-based system that a
infinite minority
of programmers understand or even know.
I think that, in theory, mixing LGPL (which is much less strict than
GPL) and MIT is authorized. Still, it is simpler if everything is of
the same license, I agree.
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Il 18/07/2013 12:19, Stéphane Ducasse ha scritto:
Hi Sport contributors
Today while browsing the seaside repository I saw that there is a
Seaside30LGPL and I was puzzled. I looked and I saw that this is because
it uses Sport and Sport is licensed under
LGPL (probably the only packages in mainstream Smalltalk). I asked Bruce
if Sport could be relicensed or have a dual license MIT/LGPL here is his
answer:
Steph,
We've had this discussion before, and as before I'm fine with this in
principle but it's not me alone to say. Sport for different dialects
was written by different people.
Sent from my phone. Please forgive brevity.
So if you participated to Sport can you reply to this mail so that we
can get a dual license LGPL/MIT.
I agree to MIT relicensing of all LGPL Smalltalk code I've ever written
(not GPL, that's another story).
Paolo
And yes I'm nervous about mixing licenses in an image-based system that
a infinite minority
of programmers understand or even know.
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On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Stéphane Ducasse
stephane.ducasse@inria.fr wrote:
Hi Sport contributors
Today while browsing the seaside repository I saw that there is a
Seaside30LGPL and I was puzzled. I looked and I saw that this is because it
uses Sport and Sport is licensed under
LGPL (probably the only packages in mainstream Smalltalk). I asked Bruce if
Sport could be relicensed or have a dual license MIT/LGPL here is his
answer:
Steph,
We've had this discussion before, and as before I'm fine with this in
principle but it's not me alone to say. Sport for different dialects was
written by different people.
Sent from my phone. Please forgive brevity.
So if you participated to Sport can you reply to this mail so that we can
get a dual license LGPL/MIT.
Should I ever have contributed I agree to dual- or relicensing.
Cheers
Philippe
Thanks you all.
This is excellent so I think that Sport can be relicensed and this is a good news.
Stef
On Jul 18, 2013, at 6:04 PM, Philippe Marschall philippe.marschall@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Stéphane Ducasse
stephane.ducasse@inria.fr wrote:
Hi Sport contributors
Today while browsing the seaside repository I saw that there is a
Seaside30LGPL and I was puzzled. I looked and I saw that this is because it
uses Sport and Sport is licensed under
LGPL (probably the only packages in mainstream Smalltalk). I asked Bruce if
Sport could be relicensed or have a dual license MIT/LGPL here is his
answer:
Steph,
We've had this discussion before, and as before I'm fine with this in
principle but it's not me alone to say. Sport for different dialects was
written by different people.
Sent from my phone. Please forgive brevity.
So if you participated to Sport can you reply to this mail so that we can
get a dual license LGPL/MIT.
Should I ever have contributed I agree to dual- or relicensing.
Cheers
Philippe
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Yes indeed. Looking at the thread I think everyone is happy with MIT so I
would suggest going with just that for the Pharo implementation of Sport
rather than using a dual license.
Bruce
On 20 July 2013 08:13, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.ducasse@inria.fr wrote:
Thanks you all.
This is excellent so I think that Sport can be relicensed and this is a
good news.
Stef
On Jul 18, 2013, at 6:04 PM, Philippe Marschall <
philippe.marschall@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Stéphane Ducasse
stephane.ducasse@inria.fr wrote:
Hi Sport contributors
Today while browsing the seaside repository I saw that there is a
Seaside30LGPL and I was puzzled. I looked and I saw that this is
because it
uses Sport and Sport is licensed under
LGPL (probably the only packages in mainstream Smalltalk). I asked
Bruce if
Sport could be relicensed or have a dual license MIT/LGPL here is his
answer:
Steph,
We've had this discussion before, and as before I'm fine with this in
principle but it's not me alone to say. Sport for different dialects
was
written by different people.
Sent from my phone. Please forgive brevity.
So if you participated to Sport can you reply to this mail so that we
can
get a dual license LGPL/MIT.
Should I ever have contributed I agree to dual- or relicensing.
Cheers
Philippe
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Bruce,
You write: “everyone is happy with MIT so I would suggest going with just that for the Pharo implementation of Sport”. This is the ESUG mailing list where Smalltalk Users of all dialects are participating. Thus I ask why is there the sub-phrase “just that for the Pharo implementation”? What is with all the other implementations? E.g. VisualWorks where the copyright says: “©Bruce Badger 2004, 2005, 2006. Licensed under the LGPL.”
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Von: Esug-list [mailto:esug-list-bounces@lists.esug.org] Im Auftrag von Bruce Badger
Gesendet: Samstag, 20. Juli 2013 10:08
An: Stéphane Ducasse
Cc: esug-list@lists.esug.org Members
Betreff: Re: [Esug-list] About Sport licenses
Yes indeed. Looking at the thread I think everyone is happy with MIT so I would suggest going with just that for the Pharo implementation of Sport rather than using a dual license.
Bruce
On 20 July 2013 08:13, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.ducasse@inria.fr wrote:
Thanks you all.
This is excellent so I think that Sport can be relicensed and this is a good news.
Stef
On Jul 18, 2013, at 6:04 PM, Philippe Marschall philippe.marschall@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 12:19 PM, Stéphane Ducasse
stephane.ducasse@inria.fr wrote:
Hi Sport contributors
Today while browsing the seaside repository I saw that there is a
Seaside30LGPL and I was puzzled. I looked and I saw that this is because it
uses Sport and Sport is licensed under
LGPL (probably the only packages in mainstream Smalltalk). I asked Bruce if
Sport could be relicensed or have a dual license MIT/LGPL here is his
answer:
Steph,
We've had this discussion before, and as before I'm fine with this in
principle but it's not me alone to say. Sport for different dialects was
written by different people.
Sent from my phone. Please forgive brevity.
So if you participated to Sport can you reply to this mail so that we can
get a dual license LGPL/MIT.
Should I ever have contributed I agree to dual- or relicensing.
Cheers
Philippe
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