In a message dated 2/20/2004 6:49:08 AM Central Standard Time, harrisallen@meridianmarineusa.com writes: <<They came to the conclusion that the yellow handled Super Champ ones were as good as the ratchet mil spec ones. How would you like to be on a 747 knowing that the wiring was put together with Super Champs? >> Ah, but what if they are as good? <g> chuck