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David Marchand

Tue, Dec 29, 2009 7:13 PM

Jim:

Running the diesel for only a couple of minutes at the dock before casting
off is good for the environment and the engine. I do exactly that, but I run
at near idling rpm (about 1000-1200) until I am out of the harbor. It takes
about ten mimutes and by then I am up to 150 degrees on the temp gauge and I
push it up to slow cruise at 1,700 rpm. Then if I want to go fast I wait
until the temp stabilizes at about 180. This procedure is much, much
preferable to idling for 20 minutes at the dock to let the engine warm up.
It warms the engine faster and gets all of the possible smoke away from your
dock mates.

But I do let the engine run slowly for at least ten minutes (the time it
takes to get throught the harbor to my dock) coming back after a fast
cruise. This lets the engine's internals stabilize at the reduced coolant
flow before shutting down.

David

Jim: Running the diesel for only a couple of minutes at the dock before casting off is good for the environment and the engine. I do exactly that, but I run at near idling rpm (about 1000-1200) until I am out of the harbor. It takes about ten mimutes and by then I am up to 150 degrees on the temp gauge and I push it up to slow cruise at 1,700 rpm. Then if I want to go fast I wait until the temp stabilizes at about 180. This procedure is much, much preferable to idling for 20 minutes at the dock to let the engine warm up. It warms the engine faster and gets all of the possible smoke away from your dock mates. But I do let the engine run slowly for at least ten minutes (the time it takes to get throught the harbor to my dock) coming back after a fast cruise. This lets the engine's internals stabilize at the reduced coolant flow before shutting down. David

BN

Bill Noftsinger

Wed, Dec 30, 2009 1:31 AM

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeffrey Siegel" jeff@activecaptain.com
To: "Hugh Preddy" preddy@sfu.ca
Cc: trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com
Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: T&T: Starting Diesel Engines

When starting engines
how much throttle do fellows give your engines?

My start up procedure is similar to Jeffrey on aCappella, I do an engine
room check before start up, then get out of the dungarees and put on the
white ducks before starting up the engines at the lower helm. After an
initial check of the gauges, I walk aft to look at the exhaust flow, return
to the lower helm and turn on the electronics, check the gauges again and
then head topside to turn on the electronics at the upper helm. Get the flag
out and remember (hopefully) to flip the various breakers on (water, head)
at the lower helm, go topsides and immediately return to the lower helm and
get the binocs; I never remember those. Then we drop the lines and ease out.
The process is 5-15 minutes depending on how many times I run up and down
between the upper and lower helm stations.
Bill Noftsinger
Amazing Grace
42 GB

----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeffrey Siegel" <jeff@activecaptain.com> To: "Hugh Preddy" <preddy@sfu.ca> Cc: <trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com> Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2009 8:58 AM Subject: Re: T&T: Starting Diesel Engines >> When starting engines >> how much throttle do fellows give your engines? My start up procedure is similar to Jeffrey on aCappella, I do an engine room check before start up, then get out of the dungarees and put on the white ducks before starting up the engines at the lower helm. After an initial check of the gauges, I walk aft to look at the exhaust flow, return to the lower helm and turn on the electronics, check the gauges again and then head topside to turn on the electronics at the upper helm. Get the flag out and remember (hopefully) to flip the various breakers on (water, head) at the lower helm, go topsides and immediately return to the lower helm and get the binocs; I never remember those. Then we drop the lines and ease out. The process is 5-15 minutes depending on how many times I run up and down between the upper and lower helm stations. Bill Noftsinger Amazing Grace 42 GB

RB

Roger Bingham

Wed, Dec 30, 2009 10:29 AM

In a previous life I spent a particularly freezing night high in the
Himalayas in Nepal with a Mercedes engined vehicle.
I had driven up from a lovely, warm India and the temperature difference was
substantial.

In the morning the engine barely turned over and starting seemed out of the
question.
A brief inspection showed the diesel fuel was like wax and I can only
imagine the viscosity of the engine and transmission oils.
Lard comes to mind.

A couple of local lads came over and, with permission, lit a small fire
under the engine sump and, after removing the air filter element, placed a
burning rag in the engine air intake.

After a minute or two they indicated that I should start the engine.
A half dozen revolutions and she fired.

Fires out, air cleaner assembled, exchanged farewells and on the road.

Might be a bit dodgy on trawlers.

Best Regards and a Happy New Year to all.

Roger Bingham
France

In a previous life I spent a particularly freezing night high in the Himalayas in Nepal with a Mercedes engined vehicle. I had driven up from a lovely, warm India and the temperature difference was substantial. In the morning the engine barely turned over and starting seemed out of the question. A brief inspection showed the diesel fuel was like wax and I can only imagine the viscosity of the engine and transmission oils. Lard comes to mind. A couple of local lads came over and, with permission, lit a small fire under the engine sump and, after removing the air filter element, placed a burning rag in the engine air intake. After a minute or two they indicated that I should start the engine. A half dozen revolutions and she fired. Fires out, air cleaner assembled, exchanged farewells and on the road. Might be a bit dodgy on trawlers. Best Regards and a Happy New Year to all. Roger Bingham France

JA

Jim Ague

Wed, Dec 30, 2009 2:03 PM

My start up procedure is similar to Jeffrey on aCappella, I do an engine
room check before start up, then get out of the dungarees and put on the
white ducks before starting up the engines at the lower helm.

Is this when you should put on the blue blazer, or do you wait until you go
to the upper helm?

-- Jim

> My start up procedure is similar to Jeffrey on aCappella, I do an engine > room check before start up, then get out of the dungarees and put on the > white ducks before starting up the engines at the lower helm. Is this when you should put on the blue blazer, or do you wait until you go to the upper helm? -- Jim

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Bill Noftsinger

Thu, Dec 31, 2009 2:47 AM

Blue blazer with yacht club emblem on the pocket and a captain's cap! That
little green turtle on the pocket is a real conversation starter.
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Ague" ague@usa.net
To: trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 9:03 AM
Subject: Re: T&T: Starting Diesel Engines

My start up procedure is similar to Jeffrey on aCappella, I do an engine
room check before start up, then get out of the dungarees and put on the
white ducks before starting up the engines at the lower helm.

Is this when you should put on the blue blazer, or do you wait until you
go to the upper helm?

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Blue blazer with yacht club emblem on the pocket and a captain's cap! That little green turtle on the pocket is a real conversation starter. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Ague" <ague@usa.net> To: <trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2009 9:03 AM Subject: Re: T&T: Starting Diesel Engines >> My start up procedure is similar to Jeffrey on aCappella, I do an engine >> room check before start up, then get out of the dungarees and put on the >> white ducks before starting up the engines at the lower helm. > > Is this when you should put on the blue blazer, or do you wait until you > go to the upper helm? > > -- Jim _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change > email address, etc) go to: > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/trawlers-and-trawlering > > Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World > Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited.

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