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Hanging Anchors?

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Rudy Sechez
Wed, Sep 23, 2020 5:26 PM

Coming thru the approaches to Hampton Roads this morning and had the
opportunity to pass one of our warships heading out. The warship, while
motoring out the approaches, was dangling both bowers. The only reasons
that I can think of are that they didn't know they were dangling, work was
being done on them, or maybe just ready in case emergency anchoring was
necessary. The aircraft carrier preceding this warship did dangle theirs.
Umm... any ideas?

*Rudy & Jill Sechez *
*BRINEY BUG-a 34' Sail-Assisted Trawler  *
*850-832-7748 *
Hampton VA Southbound

Coming thru the approaches to Hampton Roads this morning and had the opportunity to pass one of our warships heading out. The warship, while motoring out the approaches, was dangling both bowers. The only reasons that I can think of are that they didn't know they were dangling, work was being done on them, or maybe just ready in case emergency anchoring was necessary. The aircraft carrier preceding this warship did dangle theirs. Umm... any ideas? *Rudy & Jill Sechez * *BRINEY BUG-a 34' Sail-Assisted Trawler * *850-832-7748 * *Hampton VA Southbound*
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Bob McLeran
Wed, Sep 23, 2020 5:43 PM

They have them ready to deploy in the event of an emergency. Normally,
they're basically locked in stowed position with at least one pelican
hook which takes a bit of time to disengage and deploy.

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On 9/23/2020 01:26 PM, Rudy Sechez via Trawlers-and-Trawlering wrote:

Coming thru the approaches to Hampton Roads this morning and had the
opportunity to pass one of our warships heading out. The warship, while
motoring out the approaches, was dangling both bowers. The only reasons
that I can think of are that they didn't know they were dangling, work was
being done on them, or maybe just ready in case emergency anchoring was
necessary. The aircraft carrier preceding this warship did dangle theirs.
Umm... any ideas?

*Rudy & Jill Sechez *
*BRINEY BUG-a 34' Sail-Assisted Trawler  *
*850-832-7748 *
Hampton VA Southbound


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They have them ready to deploy in the event of an emergency. Normally, they're basically locked in stowed position with at least one pelican hook which takes a bit of time to disengage and deploy. <><><><><><><><><><><><>Mozilla Thunderbird<><><><><><><><><><> Bob McLeran and Judy Young Manatee Cove Marina MV Sanderling Patrick Air Force Base DeFever 41 Trawler for sale Melbourne, Florida Blog: http://mvsanderling.net/Blog Web: http://cruising.mvsanderling.net/ Site: http://Ourphotos.hopto.org Site: http://SanderlingBlog.hopto.org On 9/23/2020 01:26 PM, Rudy Sechez via Trawlers-and-Trawlering wrote: > Coming thru the approaches to Hampton Roads this morning and had the > opportunity to pass one of our warships heading out. The warship, while > motoring out the approaches, was dangling both bowers. The only reasons > that I can think of are that they didn't know they were dangling, work was > being done on them, or maybe just ready in case emergency anchoring was > necessary. The aircraft carrier preceding this warship did dangle theirs. > Umm... any ideas? > > *Rudy & Jill Sechez * > *BRINEY BUG-a 34' Sail-Assisted Trawler * > *850-832-7748 * > *Hampton VA Southbound* > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers_lists.trawlering.com > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change email address, etc) go to: http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers_lists.trawlering.com > Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World > Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited.
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Rich Gano
Wed, Sep 23, 2020 9:44 PM

As a former member of destroyer and battleship (almost as big as a carrier)
bridge crews operating out of Norfolk, I can say that the channel is
extremely narrow with no forgiveness for leaving its confines before going
aground.  We always had at least one anchor ready for letting go, but "ready
for letting go" could mean any of several combinations.  After a long sea
voyage or in port period, it would be quite possible that anchors get "set"
in their stowed positions and resist falling free when the wildcat
clutch/brake and pelican hooks are released.  In order to assure ourselves
this was not the case, we set the brake/clutch on the wildcat and released
both pelican hooks.  Then the windlass was operated in the down direction
for a few links to ensure the anchor moved that direction.  Then the anchor
was retrieved to where the outboard pelican hook could be engaged; the
wildcat brake/clutch released; a man stationed at the pelican hook with a
sledge hammer; and the report "_____ anchor ready for letting go" made to
the bridge.  There is nothing preventing a captain from specifying that the
anchor or anchors should actually hang on the pelican hook free of the hawse
during channel transit time, but I never witnessed it in US Navy ships.
That practice is often seen in commercial ships, and this practice seen on a
carrier may have a lot to do with the fact that all carrier captains (who
grew up in the Navy as aviators, not ship drivers) go through the very
expensive and realistic merchant marine bridge simulator training in New
York.

Rich Gano
Frolic (2005 Mainship 30 Pilot II)
Panama City area

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They have them ready to deploy in the event of an emergency. Normally,
they're basically locked in stowed position with at least one pelican
hook which takes a bit of time to disengage and deploy.

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Bob McLeran and Judy Young              Manatee Cove Marina
MV Sanderling                            Patrick Air Force Base
DeFever 41 Trawler for sale              Melbourne, Florida
Blog: http://mvsanderling.net/Blog
Web: http://cruising.mvsanderling.net/
Site: http://Ourphotos.hopto.org
Site: http://SanderlingBlog.hopto.org

On 9/23/2020 01:26 PM, Rudy Sechez via Trawlers-and-Trawlering wrote:

Coming thru the approaches to Hampton Roads this morning and had the
opportunity to pass one of our warships heading out. The warship, while
motoring out the approaches, was dangling both bowers. The only reasons
that I can think of are that they didn't know they were dangling, work was
being done on them, or maybe just ready in case emergency anchoring was
necessary. The aircraft carrier preceding this warship did dangle theirs.
Umm... any ideas?

*Rudy & Jill Sechez *
*BRINEY BUG-a 34' Sail-Assisted Trawler  *
*850-832-7748 *
Hampton VA Southbound


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As a former member of destroyer and battleship (almost as big as a carrier) bridge crews operating out of Norfolk, I can say that the channel is extremely narrow with no forgiveness for leaving its confines before going aground. We always had at least one anchor ready for letting go, but "ready for letting go" could mean any of several combinations. After a long sea voyage or in port period, it would be quite possible that anchors get "set" in their stowed positions and resist falling free when the wildcat clutch/brake and pelican hooks are released. In order to assure ourselves this was not the case, we set the brake/clutch on the wildcat and released both pelican hooks. Then the windlass was operated in the down direction for a few links to ensure the anchor moved that direction. Then the anchor was retrieved to where the outboard pelican hook could be engaged; the wildcat brake/clutch released; a man stationed at the pelican hook with a sledge hammer; and the report "_____ anchor ready for letting go" made to the bridge. There is nothing preventing a captain from specifying that the anchor or anchors should actually hang on the pelican hook free of the hawse during channel transit time, but I never witnessed it in US Navy ships. That practice is often seen in commercial ships, and this practice seen on a carrier may have a lot to do with the fact that all carrier captains (who grew up in the Navy as aviators, not ship drivers) go through the very expensive and realistic merchant marine bridge simulator training in New York. Rich Gano Frolic (2005 Mainship 30 Pilot II) Panama City area -----Original Message----- From: Trawlers-and-Trawlering [mailto:trawlers-bounces@lists.trawlering.com] On Behalf Of Bob McLeran via Trawlers-and-Trawlering Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2020 12:44 PM To: trawlers@lists.trawlering.com Subject: Re: T&T: Hanging Anchors? They have them ready to deploy in the event of an emergency. Normally, they're basically locked in stowed position with at least one pelican hook which takes a bit of time to disengage and deploy. <><><><><><><><><><><><>Mozilla Thunderbird<><><><><><><><><><> Bob McLeran and Judy Young Manatee Cove Marina MV Sanderling Patrick Air Force Base DeFever 41 Trawler for sale Melbourne, Florida Blog: http://mvsanderling.net/Blog Web: http://cruising.mvsanderling.net/ Site: http://Ourphotos.hopto.org Site: http://SanderlingBlog.hopto.org On 9/23/2020 01:26 PM, Rudy Sechez via Trawlers-and-Trawlering wrote: > Coming thru the approaches to Hampton Roads this morning and had the > opportunity to pass one of our warships heading out. The warship, while > motoring out the approaches, was dangling both bowers. The only reasons > that I can think of are that they didn't know they were dangling, work was > being done on them, or maybe just ready in case emergency anchoring was > necessary. The aircraft carrier preceding this warship did dangle theirs. > Umm... any ideas? > > *Rudy & Jill Sechez * > *BRINEY BUG-a 34' Sail-Assisted Trawler * > *850-832-7748 * > *Hampton VA Southbound* > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers_lists.trawlering.com > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change email address, etc) go to: http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers_lists.trawlering.com > Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World > Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited. _______________________________________________ http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers_lists.trawlering.com To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change email address, etc) go to: http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers_lists.trawlering.com Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited.
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LAL
Thu, Sep 24, 2020 5:33 AM

Bob et al.

Mine is also “at the ready” (ie hanging) whenever entering or leaving port.

IMHO, the anchor is a tool, to be used as any other tool.

If there is even a remote possibility that I will need it, it will have it ready.

In my 10 years, I needed it twice, and the fact that it was hanging prevented me from hitting my neighbors.

Lee

LeeZe

Levent Marina, Izmir Turkey

On Sep 23, 2020, at 20:43, Bob McLeran wrote:

They have them ready to deploy in the event of an emergency. Normally, they're basically locked in stowed position with at least one pelican hook which takes a bit of time to disengage and deploy……

Bob et al. Mine is also “at the ready” (ie hanging) whenever entering or leaving port. IMHO, the anchor is a tool, to be used as any other tool. If there is even a remote possibility that I will need it, it will have it ready. In my 10 years, I needed it twice, and the fact that it was hanging prevented me from hitting my neighbors. Lee LeeZe Levent Marina, Izmir Turkey On Sep 23, 2020, at 20:43, Bob McLeran wrote: They have them ready to deploy in the event of an emergency. Normally, they're basically locked in stowed position with at least one pelican hook which takes a bit of time to disengage and deploy……