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GPS disciplined OXCO

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Seth - Fran Taylor
Fri, Sep 4, 2020 9:58 PM

Anyone have any experience with any of the GPS Disciplined. Reliability?
Etc.

Symmetricom 10 MHz TTL/Sine OXCO sources offered on ebay? Usually in $150 to
$300 range.

Not ready to sink $500 or more into a rubidium source.

Seth L Taylor

Francine S Taylor

6585 Kensington Ln

Apt 401

Delray Beach FL 33446-3020

Email: kc2we.1@gmail.com mailto:kc2we.1@gmail.com

I Phone(s): 201-787-4492 (Fran); 201-874-7915 (Seth)

Home: 561-270-2873

Anyone have any experience with any of the GPS Disciplined. Reliability? Etc. Symmetricom 10 MHz TTL/Sine OXCO sources offered on ebay? Usually in $150 to $300 range. Not ready to sink $500 or more into a rubidium source. Seth L Taylor Francine S Taylor 6585 Kensington Ln Apt 401 Delray Beach FL 33446-3020 Email: kc2we.1@gmail.com <mailto:kc2we.1@gmail.com> I Phone(s): 201-787-4492 (Fran); 201-874-7915 (Seth) Home: 561-270-2873
BK
Bob kb8tq
Sat, Sep 5, 2020 12:43 AM

Hi

A number of us have Trimble TBolt’s that have been running for over 10 years.
The early HP’s (Z3801 … ) seem to have a weakness in the power supply section.
So far mine have come back to life after simple repairs. That puts the into the 20+
year range. The “Nortel” GPSDO’s seem to just keep on running and running.

That’s just looking at the devices that have been out there long enough / in big
enough quantities  to look at “longevity”. It is by no means trying to say those parts
are any more reliable than others.

Simple answer is that a GPSDO is a pretty simple beast. You have a GPS module
of some sort. They seem to last a long time. You also have an OCXO, 20+ years is
a reasonable expectation on a modern part. There nothing like the Cs tube to
“wear out”.

Bob

On Sep 4, 2020, at 5:58 PM, Seth - Fran Taylor kc2we.1@gmail.com wrote:

Anyone have any experience with any of the GPS Disciplined. Reliability?
Etc.

Symmetricom 10 MHz TTL/Sine OXCO sources offered on ebay? Usually in $150 to
$300 range.

Not ready to sink $500 or more into a rubidium source.

Seth L Taylor

Francine S Taylor

6585 Kensington Ln

Apt 401

Delray Beach FL 33446-3020

Email: kc2we.1@gmail.com mailto:kc2we.1@gmail.com

I Phone(s): 201-787-4492 (Fran); 201-874-7915 (Seth)

Home: 561-270-2873


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Hi A number of us have Trimble TBolt’s that have been running for over 10 years. The early HP’s (Z3801 … ) seem to have a weakness in the power supply section. So far mine have come back to life after simple repairs. That puts the into the 20+ year range. The “Nortel” GPSDO’s seem to just keep on running and running. That’s just looking at the devices that have been out there long enough / in big enough quantities to look at “longevity”. It is by no means trying to say those parts are any more reliable than others. Simple answer is that a GPSDO is a pretty simple beast. You have a GPS module of some sort. They seem to last a long time. You also have an OCXO, 20+ years is a reasonable expectation on a modern part. There nothing like the Cs tube to “wear out”. Bob > On Sep 4, 2020, at 5:58 PM, Seth - Fran Taylor <kc2we.1@gmail.com> wrote: > > Anyone have any experience with any of the GPS Disciplined. Reliability? > Etc. > > > > Symmetricom 10 MHz TTL/Sine OXCO sources offered on ebay? Usually in $150 to > $300 range. > > > > Not ready to sink $500 or more into a rubidium source. > > > > > > Seth L Taylor > > Francine S Taylor > > 6585 Kensington Ln > > Apt 401 > > Delray Beach FL 33446-3020 > > Email: kc2we.1@gmail.com <mailto:kc2we.1@gmail.com> > > I Phone(s): 201-787-4492 (Fran); 201-874-7915 (Seth) > > Home: 561-270-2873 > > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > and follow the instructions there.
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Taka Kamiya
Sat, Sep 5, 2020 2:30 AM

Just about everybody on this list has extensive experience on GPSDO.  Once it gets going, OCXOs are very reliable.  I haven't had one fail, yet.  There are plenty available on eBay, too, and if one is not too critical, anything will do for general lab use. 

If this is your first time, my recommendation is a T-bolt.  While they may not be the cheapest, there are plenty to choose from.  There are vast amount of knowledge and experiences available.  Well supported and no surprises.  With add-on display board and all that, you can make yourself a nice self-contained unit for not much more than $300, depending on how well stocked your junk box is.
Personally, I tend to avoid ready-built eBay stuff. 


(Mr.) Taka Kamiya
KB4EMF / ex JF2DKG

On Friday, September 4, 2020, 8:12:20 PM EDT, Seth - Fran Taylor <kc2we.1@gmail.com> wrote:  

Anyone have any experience with any of the GPS Disciplined. Reliability?
Etc.

Symmetricom 10 MHz TTL/Sine OXCO sources offered on ebay? Usually in $150 to
$300 range.

Not ready to sink $500 or more into a rubidium source.

Seth L Taylor

Francine S Taylor

6585 Kensington Ln

Apt 401

Delray Beach FL 33446-3020

Email: kc2we.1@gmail.com mailto:kc2we.1@gmail.com

I Phone(s): 201-787-4492 (Fran); 201-874-7915 (Seth)

Home: 561-270-2873


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Just about everybody on this list has extensive experience on GPSDO.  Once it gets going, OCXOs are very reliable.  I haven't had one fail, yet.  There are plenty available on eBay, too, and if one is not too critical, anything will do for general lab use.  If this is your first time, my recommendation is a T-bolt.  While they may not be the cheapest, there are plenty to choose from.  There are vast amount of knowledge and experiences available.  Well supported and no surprises.  With add-on display board and all that, you can make yourself a nice self-contained unit for not much more than $300, depending on how well stocked your junk box is. Personally, I tend to avoid ready-built eBay stuff.  --------------------------------------- (Mr.) Taka Kamiya KB4EMF / ex JF2DKG On Friday, September 4, 2020, 8:12:20 PM EDT, Seth - Fran Taylor <kc2we.1@gmail.com> wrote: Anyone have any experience with any of the GPS Disciplined. Reliability? Etc. Symmetricom 10 MHz TTL/Sine OXCO sources offered on ebay? Usually in $150 to $300 range. Not ready to sink $500 or more into a rubidium source. Seth L Taylor Francine S Taylor 6585 Kensington Ln Apt 401 Delray Beach FL 33446-3020 Email: kc2we.1@gmail.com <mailto:kc2we.1@gmail.com> I Phone(s): 201-787-4492 (Fran); 201-874-7915 (Seth) Home: 561-270-2873 _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.