AK
Adam Kuzych
Mon, Nov 11, 2024 8:31 PM
I have a Symmetricom TimeSource 3500 of unknown origin that appears to boot
correctly, by LED action, and operates the Rb 10MHz output, but is perhaps
undisciplined by GPS.
I've read through the manual extensively, and have copied the craft port
pinout to the working serial port on an ancient Windows XP computer running
Hyperterminal VT100, 9600 8N1.
I've tried adding an unnecessary null, and tried access as well to the
DB-25 rear serial connector, null in and out there too, without success. No
joy in PuTTY on a modern PC either.
I've done plenty of terminal into other obsolete gear of this era, and
never had these problems with this much effort. Could someone reach me who
has had success on this model series?
Opening it up, there doesn't appear to be any factory reset switch or any
memory battery to pull here.
I may be able to try something Wireshark to the ethernet port, but I don't
think they intended that access for control on this model.
Adam VE6WMR
I have a Symmetricom TimeSource 3500 of unknown origin that appears to boot
correctly, by LED action, and operates the Rb 10MHz output, but is perhaps
undisciplined by GPS.
I've read through the manual extensively, and have copied the craft port
pinout to the working serial port on an ancient Windows XP computer running
Hyperterminal VT100, 9600 8N1.
I've tried adding an unnecessary null, and tried access as well to the
DB-25 rear serial connector, null in and out there too, without success. No
joy in PuTTY on a modern PC either.
I've done plenty of terminal into other obsolete gear of this era, and
never had these problems with this much effort. Could someone reach me who
has had success on this model series?
Opening it up, there doesn't appear to be any factory reset switch or any
memory battery to pull here.
I may be able to try something Wireshark to the ethernet port, but I don't
think they intended that access for control on this model.
Adam VE6WMR
JD
Joe Dempster
Tue, Nov 12, 2024 5:15 AM
Try switching the RX/TX (2 and 3 pins) order.
Joe Dempster
+1 908 413 2889 (m)
On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 14:18 Adam Kuzych via time-nuts <
time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote:
I have a Symmetricom TimeSource 3500 of unknown origin that appears to boot
correctly, by LED action, and operates the Rb 10MHz output, but is perhaps
undisciplined by GPS.
I've read through the manual extensively, and have copied the craft port
pinout to the working serial port on an ancient Windows XP computer running
Hyperterminal VT100, 9600 8N1.
I've tried adding an unnecessary null, and tried access as well to the
DB-25 rear serial connector, null in and out there too, without success. No
joy in PuTTY on a modern PC either.
I've done plenty of terminal into other obsolete gear of this era, and
never had these problems with this much effort. Could someone reach me who
has had success on this model series?
Opening it up, there doesn't appear to be any factory reset switch or any
memory battery to pull here.
I may be able to try something Wireshark to the ethernet port, but I don't
think they intended that access for control on this model.
Adam VE6WMR
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Try switching the RX/TX (2 and 3 pins) order.
Joe Dempster
+1 908 413 2889 (m)
On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 14:18 Adam Kuzych via time-nuts <
time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote:
> I have a Symmetricom TimeSource 3500 of unknown origin that appears to boot
> correctly, by LED action, and operates the Rb 10MHz output, but is perhaps
> undisciplined by GPS.
>
> I've read through the manual extensively, and have copied the craft port
> pinout to the working serial port on an ancient Windows XP computer running
> Hyperterminal VT100, 9600 8N1.
>
> I've tried adding an unnecessary null, and tried access as well to the
> DB-25 rear serial connector, null in and out there too, without success. No
> joy in PuTTY on a modern PC either.
>
> I've done plenty of terminal into other obsolete gear of this era, and
> never had these problems with this much effort. Could someone reach me who
> has had success on this model series?
>
> Opening it up, there doesn't appear to be any factory reset switch or any
> memory battery to pull here.
>
> I may be able to try something Wireshark to the ethernet port, but I don't
> think they intended that access for control on this model.
>
>
>
> Adam VE6WMR
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Adam Kuzych
Tue, Nov 12, 2024 4:21 PM
I tried the null, on both ports, nothing on this one.
I can go further and measure voltages m, scope it out too. I was hoping
someone would speak up and say it works for them on this model, but nothing
yet.
Adam VE6WMR
On Mon, Nov 11, 2024, 11:04 p.m. Joe Dempster via time-nuts <
time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote:
Try switching the RX/TX (2 and 3 pins) order.
Joe Dempster
+1 908 413 2889 (m)
On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 14:18 Adam Kuzych via time-nuts <
time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote:
I have a Symmetricom TimeSource 3500 of unknown origin that appears to
correctly, by LED action, and operates the Rb 10MHz output, but is
undisciplined by GPS.
I've read through the manual extensively, and have copied the craft port
pinout to the working serial port on an ancient Windows XP computer
Hyperterminal VT100, 9600 8N1.
I've tried adding an unnecessary null, and tried access as well to the
DB-25 rear serial connector, null in and out there too, without success.
joy in PuTTY on a modern PC either.
I've done plenty of terminal into other obsolete gear of this era, and
never had these problems with this much effort. Could someone reach me
has had success on this model series?
Opening it up, there doesn't appear to be any factory reset switch or any
memory battery to pull here.
I may be able to try something Wireshark to the ethernet port, but I
I tried the null, on both ports, nothing on this one.
I can go further and measure voltages m, scope it out too. I was hoping
someone would speak up and say it works for them on this model, but nothing
yet.
Adam VE6WMR
On Mon, Nov 11, 2024, 11:04 p.m. Joe Dempster via time-nuts <
time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote:
> Try switching the RX/TX (2 and 3 pins) order.
>
> Joe Dempster
> +1 908 413 2889 (m)
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 14:18 Adam Kuzych via time-nuts <
> time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote:
>
> > I have a Symmetricom TimeSource 3500 of unknown origin that appears to
> boot
> > correctly, by LED action, and operates the Rb 10MHz output, but is
> perhaps
> > undisciplined by GPS.
> >
> > I've read through the manual extensively, and have copied the craft port
> > pinout to the working serial port on an ancient Windows XP computer
> running
> > Hyperterminal VT100, 9600 8N1.
> >
> > I've tried adding an unnecessary null, and tried access as well to the
> > DB-25 rear serial connector, null in and out there too, without success.
> No
> > joy in PuTTY on a modern PC either.
> >
> > I've done plenty of terminal into other obsolete gear of this era, and
> > never had these problems with this much effort. Could someone reach me
> who
> > has had success on this model series?
> >
> > Opening it up, there doesn't appear to be any factory reset switch or any
> > memory battery to pull here.
> >
> > I may be able to try something Wireshark to the ethernet port, but I
> don't
> > think they intended that access for control on this model.
> >
> >
> >
> > Adam VE6WMR
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HK
Herman Karst
Tue, Nov 12, 2024 4:45 PM
Hi Adam,
To my understanding you need a terminal program with Y modem capability or the Timewizzard software according to the manual.
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Op 11 nov 2024 om 22:19 heeft Adam Kuzych via time-nuts time-nuts@lists.febo.com het volgende geschreven:
Symmetricom TimeSource 3500
Hi Adam,
To my understanding you need a terminal program with Y modem capability or the Timewizzard software according to the manual.
Met vriendelijke groet | With kindest regards | Cordialement | Med vennlig hilsen | Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Richard Karst
PA1FYB
9761 EV Eelde
> Op 11 nov 2024 om 22:19 heeft Adam Kuzych via time-nuts <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> het volgende geschreven:
>
> Symmetricom TimeSource 3500
HK
Herman Karst
Tue, Nov 12, 2024 5:05 PM
Hi Adam,
You can also use TimeCraft software to control the unit. You can download it from the Microchip website.
Met vriendelijke groet | With kindest regards | Cordialement | Med vennlig hilsen | Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Richard Karst
PA1FYB
9761 EV Eelde
Op 11 nov 2024 om 22:19 heeft Adam Kuzych via time-nuts time-nuts@lists.febo.com het volgende geschreven:
I have a Symmetricom TimeSource 3500 of unknown origin that appears to boot
correctly, by LED action, and operates the Rb 10MHz output, but is perhaps
undisciplined by GPS.
I've read through the manual extensively, and have copied the craft port
pinout to the working serial port on an ancient Windows XP computer running
Hyperterminal VT100, 9600 8N1.
I've tried adding an unnecessary null, and tried access as well to the
DB-25 rear serial connector, null in and out there too, without success. No
joy in PuTTY on a modern PC either.
I've done plenty of terminal into other obsolete gear of this era, and
never had these problems with this much effort. Could someone reach me who
has had success on this model series?
Opening it up, there doesn't appear to be any factory reset switch or any
memory battery to pull here.
I may be able to try something Wireshark to the ethernet port, but I don't
think they intended that access for control on this model.
Adam VE6WMR
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Hi Adam,
You can also use TimeCraft software to control the unit. You can download it from the Microchip website.
Met vriendelijke groet | With kindest regards | Cordialement | Med vennlig hilsen | Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
Richard Karst
PA1FYB
9761 EV Eelde
> Op 11 nov 2024 om 22:19 heeft Adam Kuzych via time-nuts <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> het volgende geschreven:
>
> I have a Symmetricom TimeSource 3500 of unknown origin that appears to boot
> correctly, by LED action, and operates the Rb 10MHz output, but is perhaps
> undisciplined by GPS.
>
> I've read through the manual extensively, and have copied the craft port
> pinout to the working serial port on an ancient Windows XP computer running
> Hyperterminal VT100, 9600 8N1.
>
> I've tried adding an unnecessary null, and tried access as well to the
> DB-25 rear serial connector, null in and out there too, without success. No
> joy in PuTTY on a modern PC either.
>
> I've done plenty of terminal into other obsolete gear of this era, and
> never had these problems with this much effort. Could someone reach me who
> has had success on this model series?
>
> Opening it up, there doesn't appear to be any factory reset switch or any
> memory battery to pull here.
>
> I may be able to try something Wireshark to the ethernet port, but I don't
> think they intended that access for control on this model.
>
>
>
> Adam VE6WMR
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Mahlon Haunschild
Tue, Nov 12, 2024 5:50 PM
If you have the cable shield (not signal ground) connected at both ends, cut one end.
Best regards
Mahlon - N4ZK
On Nov 12, 2024, at 12:05 AM, Joe Dempster via time-nuts time-nuts@lists.febo.com wrote:
Try switching the RX/TX (2 and 3 pins) order.
Joe Dempster
+1 908 413 2889 (m)
On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 14:18 Adam Kuzych via time-nuts <
time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote:
I have a Symmetricom TimeSource 3500 of unknown origin that appears to boot
correctly, by LED action, and operates the Rb 10MHz output, but is perhaps
undisciplined by GPS.
I've read through the manual extensively, and have copied the craft port
pinout to the working serial port on an ancient Windows XP computer running
Hyperterminal VT100, 9600 8N1.
I've tried adding an unnecessary null, and tried access as well to the
DB-25 rear serial connector, null in and out there too, without success. No
joy in PuTTY on a modern PC either.
I've done plenty of terminal into other obsolete gear of this era, and
never had these problems with this much effort. Could someone reach me who
has had success on this model series?
Opening it up, there doesn't appear to be any factory reset switch or any
memory battery to pull here.
I may be able to try something Wireshark to the ethernet port, but I don't
think they intended that access for control on this model.
Adam VE6WMR
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If you have the cable shield (not signal ground) connected at both ends, cut one end.
Best regards
Mahlon - N4ZK
> On Nov 12, 2024, at 12:05 AM, Joe Dempster via time-nuts <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote:
>
> Try switching the RX/TX (2 and 3 pins) order.
>
> Joe Dempster
> +1 908 413 2889 (m)
>
>
>> On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 14:18 Adam Kuzych via time-nuts <
>> time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have a Symmetricom TimeSource 3500 of unknown origin that appears to boot
>> correctly, by LED action, and operates the Rb 10MHz output, but is perhaps
>> undisciplined by GPS.
>>
>> I've read through the manual extensively, and have copied the craft port
>> pinout to the working serial port on an ancient Windows XP computer running
>> Hyperterminal VT100, 9600 8N1.
>>
>> I've tried adding an unnecessary null, and tried access as well to the
>> DB-25 rear serial connector, null in and out there too, without success. No
>> joy in PuTTY on a modern PC either.
>>
>> I've done plenty of terminal into other obsolete gear of this era, and
>> never had these problems with this much effort. Could someone reach me who
>> has had success on this model series?
>>
>> Opening it up, there doesn't appear to be any factory reset switch or any
>> memory battery to pull here.
>>
>> I may be able to try something Wireshark to the ethernet port, but I don't
>> think they intended that access for control on this model.
>>
>>
>>
>> Adam VE6WMR
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Adam Kuzych
Fri, Nov 15, 2024 6:44 PM
Thanks to all.
I have had the fortune of a contact from an anonymous subscriber who has
left me with all the missing details now.
I'll test this out and my report back, but consider this discussion closed
for now, and please reach me directly if experiencing this same problem.
On Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 1:24 PM Mahlon Haunschild via time-nuts <
time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote:
If you have the cable shield (not signal ground) connected at both ends,
cut one end.
Best regards
Mahlon - N4ZK
On Nov 12, 2024, at 12:05 AM, Joe Dempster via time-nuts <
Try switching the RX/TX (2 and 3 pins) order.
Joe Dempster
+1 908 413 2889 (m)
On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 14:18 Adam Kuzych via time-nuts <
time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote:
I have a Symmetricom TimeSource 3500 of unknown origin that appears to
correctly, by LED action, and operates the Rb 10MHz output, but is
undisciplined by GPS.
I've read through the manual extensively, and have copied the craft port
pinout to the working serial port on an ancient Windows XP computer
Hyperterminal VT100, 9600 8N1.
I've tried adding an unnecessary null, and tried access as well to the
DB-25 rear serial connector, null in and out there too, without
joy in PuTTY on a modern PC either.
I've done plenty of terminal into other obsolete gear of this era, and
never had these problems with this much effort. Could someone reach me
has had success on this model series?
Opening it up, there doesn't appear to be any factory reset switch or
memory battery to pull here.
I may be able to try something Wireshark to the ethernet port, but I
Thanks to all.
I have had the fortune of a contact from an anonymous subscriber who has
left me with all the missing details now.
I'll test this out and my report back, but consider this discussion closed
for now, and please reach me directly if experiencing this same problem.
On Tue, Nov 12, 2024 at 1:24 PM Mahlon Haunschild via time-nuts <
time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote:
> If you have the cable shield (not signal ground) connected at both ends,
> cut one end.
>
> Best regards
>
> Mahlon - N4ZK
>
> > On Nov 12, 2024, at 12:05 AM, Joe Dempster via time-nuts <
> time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote:
> >
> > Try switching the RX/TX (2 and 3 pins) order.
> >
> > Joe Dempster
> > +1 908 413 2889 (m)
> >
> >
> >> On Mon, Nov 11, 2024 at 14:18 Adam Kuzych via time-nuts <
> >> time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I have a Symmetricom TimeSource 3500 of unknown origin that appears to
> boot
> >> correctly, by LED action, and operates the Rb 10MHz output, but is
> perhaps
> >> undisciplined by GPS.
> >>
> >> I've read through the manual extensively, and have copied the craft port
> >> pinout to the working serial port on an ancient Windows XP computer
> running
> >> Hyperterminal VT100, 9600 8N1.
> >>
> >> I've tried adding an unnecessary null, and tried access as well to the
> >> DB-25 rear serial connector, null in and out there too, without
> success. No
> >> joy in PuTTY on a modern PC either.
> >>
> >> I've done plenty of terminal into other obsolete gear of this era, and
> >> never had these problems with this much effort. Could someone reach me
> who
> >> has had success on this model series?
> >>
> >> Opening it up, there doesn't appear to be any factory reset switch or
> any
> >> memory battery to pull here.
> >>
> >> I may be able to try something Wireshark to the ethernet port, but I
> don't
> >> think they intended that access for control on this model.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Adam VE6WMR
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