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AlorMaria@aol.com

Sun, Apr 8, 2001 11:57 PM

In a message dated 4/8/01 7:51:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
michaelg@seadreamer.net writes:

<<
I used Wood Pro from West Marine (kind of a Cetol Lite substitute) and it
didn't hold up. >>

HI Mike,

Just like a "lite" beer, you found it didn't satisfy. Use the real Cetol.
Three coats the first run and one each year there after until you get that
brown plastic look. Now you're cookin'.

Real men just let it go grey.

Al Johnson
34' Marine Trader "Angelina"

In a message dated 4/8/01 7:51:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, michaelg@seadreamer.net writes: << I used Wood Pro from West Marine (kind of a Cetol Lite substitute) and it didn't hold up. >> HI Mike, Just like a "lite" beer, you found it didn't satisfy. Use the real Cetol. Three coats the first run and one each year there after until you get that brown plastic look. Now you're cookin'. Real men just let it go grey. Al Johnson 34' Marine Trader "Angelina"

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davegdmn@earthlink.net

Mon, Apr 9, 2001 12:28 AM

In a message dated Sun, 8 Apr 2001 19:57:55 EDT, AlorMaria@aol.com
wrote:

Just like a "lite" beer, you found it didn't satisfy. Use the real Cetol.
Three coats the first run and one each year there after until you get that
brown plastic look. Now you're cookin'.

Real men just let it go grey.

No, real men use a real spar varnish. :-)

Yes, it's a pain, and yes, you spend your life working around the boat with a
varnish pot, but it's worth it when you look down through those accumulated 20+
coats of varnish into the beautiful grain of the teak.

Your mileage may vary, void where prohibited by law, etc, etc... :-)

--

Dave Goodman
M/V Dragonfly
Sarasota, FL

In a message dated Sun, 8 Apr 2001 19:57:55 EDT, AlorMaria@aol.com wrote: > Just like a "lite" beer, you found it didn't satisfy. Use the real Cetol. > Three coats the first run and one each year there after until you get that > brown plastic look. Now you're cookin'. > > Real men just let it go grey. No, real men use a real spar varnish. :-) Yes, it's a pain, and yes, you spend your life working around the boat with a varnish pot, but it's worth it when you look down through those accumulated 20+ coats of varnish into the beautiful grain of the teak. Your mileage may vary, void where prohibited by law, etc, etc... :-) -- Dave Goodman M/V Dragonfly Sarasota, FL

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yourcaptain@earthlink.net

Mon, Apr 9, 2001 2:14 AM

We have to let the Boat manufacturers know we would rather have cheap
plastic trim on our boats because we can't keep up the nice looking varnish
work like all the boatman before Cetol used to. Our boats would be cheaper,
not less expensive but CHEAPER. I've heard guys with Cetoled boats remark
how nice a varnish job looks. Something their Cetoled boats will never
hear. Lets black out our windows next so we won't have to wash them, and
then I'm sure some one will come up with something else to eliminate.

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HI Mike,

Just like a "lite" beer, you found it didn't satisfy. Use the real Cetol.
Three coats the first run and one each year there after until you get that
brown plastic look. Now you're cookin'.

Real men just let it go grey.

Al Johnson
34' Marine Trader "Angelina"

Captain Al Pilvinis

"M/V Driftwood"--Prairie 47
2630 N.E. 41st Street
Lighthouse Point, Fl 33064-8064
Voice 954-941-2556 Fax 954 788-2666
Email yourcaptain@earthlink.net
Website http://home.earthlink.net/~yourcaptain

We have to let the Boat manufacturers know we would rather have cheap plastic trim on our boats because we can't keep up the nice looking varnish work like all the boatman before Cetol used to. Our boats would be cheaper, not less expensive but CHEAPER. I've heard guys with Cetoled boats remark how nice a varnish job looks. Something their Cetoled boats will never hear. Lets black out our windows next so we won't have to wash them, and then I'm sure some one will come up with something else to eliminate. ======================================================== HI Mike, > >Just like a "lite" beer, you found it didn't satisfy. Use the real Cetol. >Three coats the first run and one each year there after until you get that >brown plastic look. Now you're cookin'. > >Real men just let it go grey. > >Al Johnson >34' Marine Trader "Angelina" > Captain Al Pilvinis "M/V Driftwood"--Prairie 47 2630 N.E. 41st Street Lighthouse Point, Fl 33064-8064 Voice 954-941-2556 Fax 954 788-2666 Email yourcaptain@earthlink.net Website http://home.earthlink.net/~yourcaptain

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scaramouche@tvo.org

Mon, Apr 9, 2001 2:16 PM

davegdmn@earthlink.net writes:
...

until you get that brown plastic look

...

I don't know what you guys are doing. Ever since being introduced to
Cetol/Armada by a brush wielding neighbour in 1995, I have been using
Armada (less stain and a bit cheaper) and have yet to see brown or
plastic. My teak and some mahogany look just like lightly oiled wood,
no peeling and eminently grippable even when wet (grabrails, cockpit
steps etc). T'aint varnish shiny enough to see your reflection in it,
so I use a plastic mirror to look at my beautiful face....

...and starry nights make me dream...
George of Scaramouche

davegdmn@earthlink.net writes: ... >until you get that brown plastic look ... I don't know what you guys are doing. Ever since being introduced to Cetol/Armada by a brush wielding neighbour in 1995, I have been using Armada (less stain and a bit cheaper) and have yet to see brown or plastic. My teak and some mahogany look just like lightly oiled wood, no peeling and eminently grippable even when wet (grabrails, cockpit steps etc). T'aint varnish shiny enough to see your reflection in it, so I use a plastic mirror to look at my beautiful face.... ...and starry nights make me dream... George of Scaramouche

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jgaquin@ici.net

Mon, Apr 9, 2001 2:58 PM

----- Original Message -----
From: George Geist

.....I have been using
Armada (less stain and a bit cheaper) and ...... My teak and some mahogany

look just >like lightly oiled wood,

I've had the same results as George. My own tests last year showed me that
two coats of Armada Satin (the less expensive BoatUS clone) appeared
identical to two months and twelve applications of teak oil on my swim
platform. Somehow, I feel like I'm cheating.....

Regards,

John Gaquin
m/v Brefnie Queen,
32' Luhrs
in the shed at Kazmiera Marina
(30 days)
Haverhill, MA

----- Original Message ----- From: George Geist > > .....I have been using > Armada (less stain and a bit cheaper) and ...... My teak and some mahogany look just >like lightly oiled wood, I've had the same results as George. My own tests last year showed me that two coats of Armada Satin (the less expensive BoatUS clone) appeared identical to two months and twelve applications of teak oil on my swim platform. Somehow, I feel like I'm cheating..... Regards, John Gaquin m/v Brefnie Queen, 32' Luhrs in the shed at Kazmiera Marina (30 days) Haverhill, MA

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shaunsweeney@telus.net

Tue, Apr 10, 2001 2:52 AM

Yuk! Have to take exception to Al's suggestion of coating it wt Cetol till
it turns brown. Yuk again! I have seen a number of boats come into the
marina with that brown caprail look and it is god awful. What a waste of
beautiful teak.

We use Epifane and can still see the grain in the wood.

Real men have beautiful caprails Al .... :)

Shaun aboard Rana III

Yuk! Have to take exception to Al's suggestion of coating it wt Cetol till it turns brown. Yuk again! I have seen a number of boats come into the marina with that brown caprail look and it is god awful. What a waste of beautiful teak. We use Epifane and can still see the grain in the wood. Real men have beautiful caprails Al .... :) Shaun aboard Rana III >

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