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LED Spectra mentioned in time-nuts Digest, Vol 66, Issue 164

JC
Joe Cassano aka jmario
Sat, Jan 30, 2010 1:37 PM

J. Forster wrote:

Attached is a spectrum of a "white" LED Flashlight. My diode

spectrometer

does not go further than the limits shown.

While this may be stretching the limits of time-nuts...

I think I saw a question asking what was used to measure the recently
posted LED spectra but other than a passing comment about a diode
spectrometer, if there was an answer I can't find it.

I'm curious to know a little more about what was used to measure the LED
spectra.  Not familiar with a "diode spectrometer" and Google is not
being very helpful.  The last time I measured optical spectra was a long
long time ago using a PE UV/Visible spectrophotometer in the early days
of semiconductor manufacturing - used it to measure dielectric thickness
(on 1 inch and eventually 2 inch wafers).  I'm interested in looking at
the spectra of CF lamps - something which may not be realistic since we
retired folks no longer have access to the fun (and expensive) lab
equipment we used in our pre-retirement days.

JoeC

> >> J. Forster wrote: >>> Attached is a spectrum of a "white" LED Flashlight. My diode spectrometer >>> does not go further than the limits shown. While this may be stretching the limits of time-nuts... I think I saw a question asking what was used to measure the recently posted LED spectra but other than a passing comment about a diode spectrometer, if there was an answer I can't find it. I'm curious to know a little more about what was used to measure the LED spectra. Not familiar with a "diode spectrometer" and Google is not being very helpful. The last time I measured optical spectra was a long long time ago using a PE UV/Visible spectrophotometer in the early days of semiconductor manufacturing - used it to measure dielectric thickness (on 1 inch and eventually 2 inch wafers). I'm interested in looking at the spectra of CF lamps - something which may not be realistic since we retired folks no longer have access to the fun (and expensive) lab equipment we used in our pre-retirement days. JoeC
TA
Thomas A. Frank
Sat, Jan 30, 2010 4:06 PM

I'm curious to know a little more about what was used to measure
the LED spectra.  Not familiar with a "diode spectrometer" and
Google is not being very helpful.  The last time I measured optical
spectra was a long long time ago using a PE UV/Visible
spectrophotometer in the early days of semiconductor manufacturing

  • used it to measure dielectric thickness (on 1 inch and eventually
    2 inch wafers).  I'm interested in looking at the spectra of CF
    lamps - something which may not be realistic since we retired folks
    no longer have access to the fun (and expensive) lab equipment we
    used in our pre-retirement days.

I too would like to know more about the tool used to create those plots.

What I use is a 'manual' direct vision spectrophotometer which I
bought from Surplus Shed:

http://www.surplusshed.com/pages/item/i1479d.html

for $49 you can't really go wrong...however, when I have a bit of
spare coin I plan on buying a better one:

http://www.surplusshed.com/pages/item/l3524.html

You see, the $93 one actually has a scale in it, the cheap one does not!

They also sell much higher grade ones for $200-400 that do a good
deal more (angle measurements etc).

But nothing that attaches to a computer for pretty plots.  So I'm
intrigued as well.

Tom Frank, KA2CDK

> I'm curious to know a little more about what was used to measure > the LED spectra. Not familiar with a "diode spectrometer" and > Google is not being very helpful. The last time I measured optical > spectra was a long long time ago using a PE UV/Visible > spectrophotometer in the early days of semiconductor manufacturing > - used it to measure dielectric thickness (on 1 inch and eventually > 2 inch wafers). I'm interested in looking at the spectra of CF > lamps - something which may not be realistic since we retired folks > no longer have access to the fun (and expensive) lab equipment we > used in our pre-retirement days. I too would like to know more about the tool used to create those plots. What I use is a 'manual' direct vision spectrophotometer which I bought from Surplus Shed: http://www.surplusshed.com/pages/item/i1479d.html for $49 you can't really go wrong...however, when I have a bit of spare coin I plan on buying a better one: http://www.surplusshed.com/pages/item/l3524.html You see, the $93 one actually has a scale in it, the cheap one does not! They also sell much higher grade ones for $200-400 that do a good deal more (angle measurements etc). But nothing that attaches to a computer for pretty plots. So I'm intrigued as well. Tom Frank, KA2CDK
JF
J. Forster
Sat, Jan 30, 2010 5:45 PM

The Spectrometer I used is an Ocean Optics HR2000. It's a small box about
2" x 4" x 6" and has a FO input and a USB connection. It is powered from
my laptop via the USB port.

I bought mine at an MIT Flea Market last summer. The SW is available from
the manufacturer.

I don't recall what I paid, but it was certainly less than $250. If
anybody is interested in one, I still have the seller's contact
information. He may still have them.

I believe these particular units came from a biomedical analyzer of some
sort. The gratings (hence the dispersion) can be changed at the factory,
but it costs something like $500 last seen.

Best,
-John

==============

J. Forster wrote:

Attached is a spectrum of a "white" LED Flashlight. My diode

spectrometer

does not go further than the limits shown.

While this may be stretching the limits of time-nuts...

I think I saw a question asking what was used to measure the recently
posted LED spectra but other than a passing comment about a diode
spectrometer, if there was an answer I can't find it.

I'm curious to know a little more about what was used to measure the LED
spectra.  Not familiar with a "diode spectrometer" and Google is not
being very helpful.  The last time I measured optical spectra was a long
long time ago using a PE UV/Visible spectrophotometer in the early days
of semiconductor manufacturing - used it to measure dielectric thickness
(on 1 inch and eventually 2 inch wafers).  I'm interested in looking at
the spectra of CF lamps - something which may not be realistic since we
retired folks no longer have access to the fun (and expensive) lab
equipment we used in our pre-retirement days.

JoeC


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The Spectrometer I used is an Ocean Optics HR2000. It's a small box about 2" x 4" x 6" and has a FO input and a USB connection. It is powered from my laptop via the USB port. I bought mine at an MIT Flea Market last summer. The SW is available from the manufacturer. I don't recall what I paid, but it was certainly less than $250. If anybody is interested in one, I still have the seller's contact information. He may still have them. I believe these particular units came from a biomedical analyzer of some sort. The gratings (hence the dispersion) can be changed at the factory, but it costs something like $500 last seen. Best, -John ============== > > > >> J. Forster wrote: > >>> Attached is a spectrum of a "white" LED Flashlight. My diode > spectrometer > >>> does not go further than the limits shown. > > > While this may be stretching the limits of time-nuts... > > I think I saw a question asking what was used to measure the recently > posted LED spectra but other than a passing comment about a diode > spectrometer, if there was an answer I can't find it. > > I'm curious to know a little more about what was used to measure the LED > spectra. Not familiar with a "diode spectrometer" and Google is not > being very helpful. The last time I measured optical spectra was a long > long time ago using a PE UV/Visible spectrophotometer in the early days > of semiconductor manufacturing - used it to measure dielectric thickness > (on 1 inch and eventually 2 inch wafers). I'm interested in looking at > the spectra of CF lamps - something which may not be realistic since we > retired folks no longer have access to the fun (and expensive) lab > equipment we used in our pre-retirement days. > > JoeC > > > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > >
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NeonJohn
Sat, Jan 30, 2010 8:56 PM

J. Forster wrote:

I believe these particular units came from a biomedical analyzer of some
sort. The gratings (hence the dispersion) can be changed at the factory,
but it costs something like $500 last seen.

I work with a fellow who makes custom gas discharge lamps (you need a
spectra, he makes the light!) and we bought an OO from the company.
About $2k.  I'd LOVE to have a second one so yes, please post the name
of the guy who had those.

John

--
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J. Forster wrote: > I believe these particular units came from a biomedical analyzer of some > sort. The gratings (hence the dispersion) can be changed at the factory, > but it costs something like $500 last seen. I work with a fellow who makes custom gas discharge lamps (you need a spectra, he makes the light!) and we bought an OO from the company. About $2k. I'd LOVE to have a second one so yes, please post the name of the guy who had those. John -- John DeArmond Tellico Plains, Occupied TN http://www.neon-john.com <-- email from here http://www.johndearmond.com <-- Best damned Blog on the net PGP key: wwwkeys.pgp.net: BCB68D77
JF
J. Forster
Sun, Jan 31, 2010 2:30 AM

OK. I'll look for the guy's contac info, but it might take a day or two.

-John

===========

J. Forster wrote:

I believe these particular units came from a biomedical analyzer of some
sort. The gratings (hence the dispersion) can be changed at the factory,
but it costs something like $500 last seen.

I work with a fellow who makes custom gas discharge lamps (you need a
spectra, he makes the light!) and we bought an OO from the company.
About $2k.  I'd LOVE to have a second one so yes, please post the name
of the guy who had those.

John

--
John DeArmond
Tellico Plains, Occupied TN
http://www.neon-john.com    <-- email from here
http://www.johndearmond.com <-- Best damned Blog on the net
PGP key: wwwkeys.pgp.net: BCB68D77


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OK. I'll look for the guy's contac info, but it might take a day or two. -John =========== > J. Forster wrote: > >> I believe these particular units came from a biomedical analyzer of some >> sort. The gratings (hence the dispersion) can be changed at the factory, >> but it costs something like $500 last seen. > > I work with a fellow who makes custom gas discharge lamps (you need a > spectra, he makes the light!) and we bought an OO from the company. > About $2k. I'd LOVE to have a second one so yes, please post the name > of the guy who had those. > > John > > -- > John DeArmond > Tellico Plains, Occupied TN > http://www.neon-john.com <-- email from here > http://www.johndearmond.com <-- Best damned Blog on the net > PGP key: wwwkeys.pgp.net: BCB68D77 > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there. > >