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Managing mooring line chafe

JP
Joseph Pica
Sun, Aug 15, 2010 2:10 AM

Snip:"...'down-side' would be in leaving the mooring,
which would require a hand on the carabiner to release the locking
mechanism..."

John, I can't imagine trying to leave by putting a hand on the carabineer
except in static perfect conditions.  Depending on your individual boat
design just reaching it is an issue in unsettled conditions...otherwise
unmake the line from a cleat retrieve it and you are free...no drama. I
tried the tool to attached to a boat pole to put the line thru the eye...
tougher to use then just hooking the eye with the pole(if no mooring
pendant).

Joe

M/V "Carolyn Ann" GH N-37
MTOA# 3813
AGLCA# 5485 (Gold Looper)
CarolynAnn-N37.blogspot.com

Snip:"...'down-side' would be in leaving the mooring, which would require a hand on the carabiner to release the locking mechanism..." John, I can't imagine trying to leave by putting a hand on the carabineer except in static perfect conditions. Depending on your individual boat design just reaching it is an issue in unsettled conditions...otherwise unmake the line from a cleat retrieve it and you are free...no drama. I tried the tool to attached to a boat pole to put the line thru the eye... tougher to use then just hooking the eye with the pole(if no mooring pendant). Joe M/V "Carolyn Ann" GH N-37 MTOA# 3813 AGLCA# 5485 (Gold Looper) CarolynAnn-N37.blogspot.com
JP
Joseph Pica
Sun, Aug 15, 2010 2:28 AM

Snip:"...The drill is to pick up the pennant with a line in hand, loop the
bitter end through the pennant, while walking the line forward, run both
ends of the line in through the hawse pipe and cleat off with the pennant
within reach. At that point, we're secured and the pressure is off. Then
pass a second line through the pennant. One line is already through one
hawse pipe, the second line goes to the opposite side, then make both fast,
about equidistant. This eliminates the chafe/sawing problem and makes a
bridle to the pennant to keep it off the hull (to some degree). When we're
ready to leave, release the bitter ends and pull the lines through the
pennant as the boat drifts downwind...."

Excellent Steve, now I'll have to make up another to double up with a
bridle! Ready made backup.

Rudy, if chafe is a concern I'd use the small line as a messenger and pull
my ready made 2" poly braided hawser though and then double it :).  Stay oil
free and did you swim with Obama?

Joe

M/V "Carolyn Ann" GH N-37
MTOA# 3813
AGLCA# 5485 (Gold Looper)
CarolynAnn-N37.blogspot.com=

Snip:"...The drill is to pick up the pennant with a line in hand, loop the bitter end through the pennant, while walking the line forward, run both ends of the line in through the hawse pipe and cleat off with the pennant within reach. At that point, we're secured and the pressure is off. Then pass a second line through the pennant. One line is already through one hawse pipe, the second line goes to the opposite side, then make both fast, about equidistant. This eliminates the chafe/sawing problem and makes a bridle to the pennant to keep it off the hull (to some degree). When we're ready to leave, release the bitter ends and pull the lines through the pennant as the boat drifts downwind...." Excellent Steve, now I'll have to make up another to double up with a bridle! Ready made backup. Rudy, if chafe is a concern I'd use the small line as a messenger and pull my ready made 2" poly braided hawser though and then double it :). Stay oil free and did you swim with Obama? Joe M/V "Carolyn Ann" GH N-37 MTOA# 3813 AGLCA# 5485 (Gold Looper) CarolynAnn-N37.blogspot.com=
RA
Rudy and Jill
Sun, Aug 15, 2010 2:34 AM

The implied 'down-side' would be in

leaving the mooring, which would require a hand on the
carabiner to release the locking mechanism.

Upon planning to get underway, an additional pennant could be run down to the
mooring ball, run through the ring and doubled back up to the boat. Then, the
carabiner is released and when all is set, one leg of the second pennant is
released and the line recovered, as you smile and wave at all the folks
standing there, watching the flawless manuever in awe.

Rudy
Briney Bug, Panama City, Fl

The implied 'down-side' would be in > leaving the mooring, which would require a hand on the > carabiner to release the locking mechanism. Upon planning to get underway, an additional pennant could be run down to the mooring ball, run through the ring and doubled back up to the boat. Then, the carabiner is released and when all is set, one leg of the second pennant is released and the line recovered, as you smile and wave at all the folks standing there, watching the flawless manuever in awe. Rudy Briney Bug, Panama City, Fl
RR
Ron Rogers
Sun, Aug 15, 2010 2:41 AM

There are two places for chafe: the hawse hole and the mooring ring. The
Wichard Snap Hook Kevin suggests, shackled to an eye splice would seem to be
the safest way to promptly attach to a mooring quickly in all conditions. If
you are expecting a storm, the idea of shackled chain to your mooring
pendant is most appealing to me. This can be done after you have secured
with a hook.

Both Yale and New England make specialty mooring pendants with chafe
resistant outsides and strong, elastic insides. They are not cheap, but are
the best solution for those who depend upon moorings. Lastly, Sampson and
probably others make porous chafe guard tubing to protect lines. I do not
know if they are made in small sizes.

As we have discussed before, the MIT study on Nylon and Dacron line failures
proved that chafe guards must permit the entry of water to keep the line wet
and cool in extreme conditions. In storms, lines often fail owing to
internal heat caused by friction. This is why various manufacturers brag
about the fiber lubricants they use.

Ron Rogers

There are two places for chafe: the hawse hole and the mooring ring. The Wichard Snap Hook Kevin suggests, shackled to an eye splice would seem to be the safest way to promptly attach to a mooring quickly in all conditions. If you are expecting a storm, the idea of shackled chain to your mooring pendant is most appealing to me. This can be done after you have secured with a hook. Both Yale and New England make specialty mooring pendants with chafe resistant outsides and strong, elastic insides. They are not cheap, but are the best solution for those who depend upon moorings. Lastly, Sampson and probably others make porous chafe guard tubing to protect lines. I do not know if they are made in small sizes. As we have discussed before, the MIT study on Nylon and Dacron line failures proved that chafe guards must permit the entry of water to keep the line wet and cool in extreme conditions. In storms, lines often fail owing to internal heat caused by friction. This is why various manufacturers brag about the fiber lubricants they use. Ron Rogers