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Austron 2200A Manual

PL
Paramithiotti, Luciano Paolo S
Wed, Jan 4, 2006 3:07 PM

I have bought an Austron 2200A GPS receiver with internal rubidium.
Unfortunately I haven't the antenna that really is a special converter.
I am looking for the service manual copy . Symmetricom say it haven't.
I remember my Austron is only 10 years old.
Someone in the word can help me?

Thanks to all in advance

Luciano P. S. Paramithiotti
Italy

I have bought an Austron 2200A GPS receiver with internal rubidium. Unfortunately I haven't the antenna that really is a special converter. I am looking for the service manual copy . Symmetricom say it haven't. I remember my Austron is only 10 years old. Someone in the word can help me? Thanks to all in advance Luciano P. S. Paramithiotti Italy
RK
Rob Kimberley
Wed, Jan 4, 2006 3:38 PM

Luciano,

I used to work for Austron before they were acquired by Datum, and have a
box of old manuals in my garage. Not sure if I have this particular one, but
will check and let you know.

Kind Regards

Rob Kimberley

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Paramithiotti, Luciano Paolo S
Sent: 04 January 2006 15:07
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: [time-nuts] Austron 2200A Manual

I have bought an Austron 2200A GPS receiver with internal rubidium.
Unfortunately I haven't the antenna that really is a special converter.
I am looking for the service manual copy . Symmetricom say it haven't.
I remember my Austron is only 10 years old.
Someone in the word can help me?

Thanks to all in advance

Luciano P. S. Paramithiotti
Italy


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Luciano, I used to work for Austron before they were acquired by Datum, and have a box of old manuals in my garage. Not sure if I have this particular one, but will check and let you know. Kind Regards Rob Kimberley -----Original Message----- From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Paramithiotti, Luciano Paolo S Sent: 04 January 2006 15:07 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Austron 2200A Manual I have bought an Austron 2200A GPS receiver with internal rubidium. Unfortunately I haven't the antenna that really is a special converter. I am looking for the service manual copy . Symmetricom say it haven't. I remember my Austron is only 10 years old. Someone in the word can help me? Thanks to all in advance Luciano P. S. Paramithiotti Italy _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@febo.com https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
RE
Robert E. Martinson
Wed, Jan 4, 2006 6:05 PM

Hi Bob,

While you look through your box of manuals, could you please look for a
manual for the Datum 9390-5533 which I acquired via EBay.

Any info would be helpful, I note that it has 12 VDC on the antenna
connector so I am curious if its for a preamplified antenna or an
antenna/dowmconverter.

I am more then happy to pay for it.

REM
REMartinson@RCN.com

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Rob Kimberley
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 10:39
To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Austron 2200A Manual

Luciano,

I used to work for Austron before they were acquired by Datum, and have a
box of old manuals in my garage. Not sure if I have this particular one, but
will check and let you know.

Kind Regards

Rob Kimberley

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Paramithiotti, Luciano Paolo S
Sent: 04 January 2006 15:07
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: [time-nuts] Austron 2200A Manual

I have bought an Austron 2200A GPS receiver with internal rubidium.
Unfortunately I haven't the antenna that really is a special converter.
I am looking for the service manual copy . Symmetricom say it haven't.
I remember my Austron is only 10 years old.
Someone in the word can help me?

Thanks to all in advance

Luciano P. S. Paramithiotti
Italy


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Hi Bob, While you look through your box of manuals, could you please look for a manual for the Datum 9390-5533 which I acquired via EBay. Any info would be helpful, I note that it has 12 VDC on the antenna connector so I am curious if its for a preamplified antenna or an antenna/dowmconverter. I am more then happy to pay for it. REM REMartinson@RCN.com -----Original Message----- From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kimberley Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 10:39 To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Austron 2200A Manual Luciano, I used to work for Austron before they were acquired by Datum, and have a box of old manuals in my garage. Not sure if I have this particular one, but will check and let you know. Kind Regards Rob Kimberley -----Original Message----- From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Paramithiotti, Luciano Paolo S Sent: 04 January 2006 15:07 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Austron 2200A Manual I have bought an Austron 2200A GPS receiver with internal rubidium. Unfortunately I haven't the antenna that really is a special converter. I am looking for the service manual copy . Symmetricom say it haven't. I remember my Austron is only 10 years old. Someone in the word can help me? Thanks to all in advance Luciano P. S. Paramithiotti Italy _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@febo.com https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@febo.com https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
RK
Rob Kimberley
Wed, Jan 4, 2006 6:19 PM

Hi Robert,

I do have some 9390 manuals as well but doubt if I have that one (looks like
I better check out what I have and post the list). However I do know that
Datum used Trimble engines in their GPS products which did not down convert
and some of the earlier models did have +12V feeds for the LNA inside the
antenna rather than the later and more common +5V types.

Will check and let you know.

Rob Kimberley

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert E. Martinson [mailto:REMartinson@RCN.com]
Sent: 04 January 2006 18:06
To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'
Cc: time.bandit@btinternet.com
Subject: RE: [time-nuts] Austron 2200A Manual

Hi Bob,

While you look through your box of manuals, could you please look for a
manual for the Datum 9390-5533 which I acquired via EBay.

Any info would be helpful, I note that it has 12 VDC on the antenna
connector so I am curious if its for a preamplified antenna or an
antenna/dowmconverter.

I am more then happy to pay for it.

REM
REMartinson@RCN.com

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Rob Kimberley
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 10:39
To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Austron 2200A Manual

Luciano,

I used to work for Austron before they were acquired by Datum, and have a
box of old manuals in my garage. Not sure if I have this particular one, but
will check and let you know.

Kind Regards

Rob Kimberley

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Paramithiotti, Luciano Paolo S
Sent: 04 January 2006 15:07
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: [time-nuts] Austron 2200A Manual

I have bought an Austron 2200A GPS receiver with internal rubidium.
Unfortunately I haven't the antenna that really is a special converter.
I am looking for the service manual copy . Symmetricom say it haven't.
I remember my Austron is only 10 years old.
Someone in the word can help me?

Thanks to all in advance

Luciano P. S. Paramithiotti
Italy


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Hi Robert, I do have some 9390 manuals as well but doubt if I have that one (looks like I better check out what I have and post the list). However I do know that Datum used Trimble engines in their GPS products which did not down convert and some of the earlier models did have +12V feeds for the LNA inside the antenna rather than the later and more common +5V types. Will check and let you know. Rob Kimberley -----Original Message----- From: Robert E. Martinson [mailto:REMartinson@RCN.com] Sent: 04 January 2006 18:06 To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Cc: time.bandit@btinternet.com Subject: RE: [time-nuts] Austron 2200A Manual Hi Bob, While you look through your box of manuals, could you please look for a manual for the Datum 9390-5533 which I acquired via EBay. Any info would be helpful, I note that it has 12 VDC on the antenna connector so I am curious if its for a preamplified antenna or an antenna/dowmconverter. I am more then happy to pay for it. REM REMartinson@RCN.com -----Original Message----- From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kimberley Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 10:39 To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Austron 2200A Manual Luciano, I used to work for Austron before they were acquired by Datum, and have a box of old manuals in my garage. Not sure if I have this particular one, but will check and let you know. Kind Regards Rob Kimberley -----Original Message----- From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Paramithiotti, Luciano Paolo S Sent: 04 January 2006 15:07 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Austron 2200A Manual I have bought an Austron 2200A GPS receiver with internal rubidium. Unfortunately I haven't the antenna that really is a special converter. I am looking for the service manual copy . Symmetricom say it haven't. I remember my Austron is only 10 years old. Someone in the word can help me? Thanks to all in advance Luciano P. S. Paramithiotti Italy _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@febo.com https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@febo.com https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
BG
Bjorn Gabrielsson
Wed, Jan 4, 2006 6:38 PM

"Robert E. Martinson" REMartinson@RCN.com writes:

Hi Bob,

While you look through your box of manuals, could you please look for a
manual for the Datum 9390-5533 which I acquired via EBay.

Any info would be helpful, I note that it has 12 VDC on the antenna
connector so I am curious if its for a preamplified antenna or an
antenna/dowmconverter.

Check inside the box what kind of GPS receiver it has.

--

Björn

"Robert E. Martinson" <REMartinson@RCN.com> writes: > Hi Bob, > > While you look through your box of manuals, could you please look for a > manual for the Datum 9390-5533 which I acquired via EBay. > > Any info would be helpful, I note that it has 12 VDC on the antenna > connector so I am curious if its for a preamplified antenna or an > antenna/dowmconverter. Check inside the box what kind of GPS receiver it has. -- Björn
RE
Robert E. Martinson
Wed, Jan 4, 2006 6:38 PM

Wow, thanks for the quick response!!!  Any help will be appreciated.  Maybe
I can disconnect the 12 V & put 5 V on the antenna (internally), will try
and trace the traces.

REM

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Rob Kimberley
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 13:20
To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Austron 2200A Manual

Hi Robert,

I do have some 9390 manuals as well but doubt if I have that one (looks like
I better check out what I have and post the list). However I do know that
Datum used Trimble engines in their GPS products which did not down convert
and some of the earlier models did have +12V feeds for the LNA inside the
antenna rather than the later and more common +5V types.

Will check and let you know.

Rob Kimberley

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert E. Martinson [mailto:REMartinson@RCN.com]
Sent: 04 January 2006 18:06
To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'
Cc: time.bandit@btinternet.com
Subject: RE: [time-nuts] Austron 2200A Manual

Hi Bob,

While you look through your box of manuals, could you please look for a
manual for the Datum 9390-5533 which I acquired via EBay.

Any info would be helpful, I note that it has 12 VDC on the antenna
connector so I am curious if its for a preamplified antenna or an
antenna/dowmconverter.

I am more then happy to pay for it.

REM
REMartinson@RCN.com

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Rob Kimberley
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 10:39
To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Austron 2200A Manual

Luciano,

I used to work for Austron before they were acquired by Datum, and have a
box of old manuals in my garage. Not sure if I have this particular one, but
will check and let you know.

Kind Regards

Rob Kimberley

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Paramithiotti, Luciano Paolo S
Sent: 04 January 2006 15:07
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: [time-nuts] Austron 2200A Manual

I have bought an Austron 2200A GPS receiver with internal rubidium.
Unfortunately I haven't the antenna that really is a special converter.
I am looking for the service manual copy . Symmetricom say it haven't.
I remember my Austron is only 10 years old.
Someone in the word can help me?

Thanks to all in advance

Luciano P. S. Paramithiotti
Italy


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Wow, thanks for the quick response!!! Any help will be appreciated. Maybe I can disconnect the 12 V & put 5 V on the antenna (internally), will try and trace the traces. REM -----Original Message----- From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kimberley Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 13:20 To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Austron 2200A Manual Hi Robert, I do have some 9390 manuals as well but doubt if I have that one (looks like I better check out what I have and post the list). However I do know that Datum used Trimble engines in their GPS products which did not down convert and some of the earlier models did have +12V feeds for the LNA inside the antenna rather than the later and more common +5V types. Will check and let you know. Rob Kimberley -----Original Message----- From: Robert E. Martinson [mailto:REMartinson@RCN.com] Sent: 04 January 2006 18:06 To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Cc: time.bandit@btinternet.com Subject: RE: [time-nuts] Austron 2200A Manual Hi Bob, While you look through your box of manuals, could you please look for a manual for the Datum 9390-5533 which I acquired via EBay. Any info would be helpful, I note that it has 12 VDC on the antenna connector so I am curious if its for a preamplified antenna or an antenna/dowmconverter. I am more then happy to pay for it. REM REMartinson@RCN.com -----Original Message----- From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kimberley Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 10:39 To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Austron 2200A Manual Luciano, I used to work for Austron before they were acquired by Datum, and have a box of old manuals in my garage. Not sure if I have this particular one, but will check and let you know. Kind Regards Rob Kimberley -----Original Message----- From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Paramithiotti, Luciano Paolo S Sent: 04 January 2006 15:07 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Austron 2200A Manual I have bought an Austron 2200A GPS receiver with internal rubidium. Unfortunately I haven't the antenna that really is a special converter. I am looking for the service manual copy . Symmetricom say it haven't. I remember my Austron is only 10 years old. Someone in the word can help me? Thanks to all in advance Luciano P. S. Paramithiotti Italy _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@febo.com https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@febo.com https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@febo.com https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
RK
Rob Kimberley
Wed, Jan 4, 2006 8:03 PM

Robert,

My pleasure Sir!

The problem here is that the antenna may not work with +5v, and may actually
need +12V. However, I have successfully done this with an Odetics receiver
in the past, but the GPS engine was not a Trimble, and I don't actually know
who made the antennae, but I do remember that they had both 12V and 5V
versions.

Worth a try though.

For the record guys, I have worked directly for Systron-Donner, Austron,
Odetics/Zyfer and have represented TrueTime, Datum, Meinberg, and KSI, so
have some useful experience (plus a load of old manuals!!)

Rob

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Robert E. Martinson
Sent: 04 January 2006 18:38
To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Austron 2200A Manual

Wow, thanks for the quick response!!!  Any help will be appreciated.  Maybe
I can disconnect the 12 V & put 5 V on the antenna (internally), will try
and trace the traces.

REM

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Rob Kimberley
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 13:20
To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Austron 2200A Manual

Hi Robert,

I do have some 9390 manuals as well but doubt if I have that one (looks like
I better check out what I have and post the list). However I do know that
Datum used Trimble engines in their GPS products which did not down convert
and some of the earlier models did have +12V feeds for the LNA inside the
antenna rather than the later and more common +5V types.

Will check and let you know.

Rob Kimberley

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert E. Martinson [mailto:REMartinson@RCN.com]
Sent: 04 January 2006 18:06
To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'
Cc: time.bandit@btinternet.com
Subject: RE: [time-nuts] Austron 2200A Manual

Hi Bob,

While you look through your box of manuals, could you please look for a
manual for the Datum 9390-5533 which I acquired via EBay.

Any info would be helpful, I note that it has 12 VDC on the antenna
connector so I am curious if its for a preamplified antenna or an
antenna/dowmconverter.

I am more then happy to pay for it.

REM
REMartinson@RCN.com

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Rob Kimberley
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 10:39
To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Austron 2200A Manual

Luciano,

I used to work for Austron before they were acquired by Datum, and have a
box of old manuals in my garage. Not sure if I have this particular one, but
will check and let you know.

Kind Regards

Rob Kimberley

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Paramithiotti, Luciano Paolo S
Sent: 04 January 2006 15:07
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: [time-nuts] Austron 2200A Manual

I have bought an Austron 2200A GPS receiver with internal rubidium.
Unfortunately I haven't the antenna that really is a special converter.
I am looking for the service manual copy . Symmetricom say it haven't.
I remember my Austron is only 10 years old.
Someone in the word can help me?

Thanks to all in advance

Luciano P. S. Paramithiotti
Italy


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Robert, My pleasure Sir! The problem here is that the antenna may not work with +5v, and may actually need +12V. However, I have successfully done this with an Odetics receiver in the past, but the GPS engine was not a Trimble, and I don't actually know who made the antennae, but I do remember that they had both 12V and 5V versions. Worth a try though. For the record guys, I have worked directly for Systron-Donner, Austron, Odetics/Zyfer and have represented TrueTime, Datum, Meinberg, and KSI, so have some useful experience (plus a load of old manuals!!) Rob -----Original Message----- From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Robert E. Martinson Sent: 04 January 2006 18:38 To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Austron 2200A Manual Wow, thanks for the quick response!!! Any help will be appreciated. Maybe I can disconnect the 12 V & put 5 V on the antenna (internally), will try and trace the traces. REM -----Original Message----- From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kimberley Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 13:20 To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Austron 2200A Manual Hi Robert, I do have some 9390 manuals as well but doubt if I have that one (looks like I better check out what I have and post the list). However I do know that Datum used Trimble engines in their GPS products which did not down convert and some of the earlier models did have +12V feeds for the LNA inside the antenna rather than the later and more common +5V types. Will check and let you know. Rob Kimberley -----Original Message----- From: Robert E. Martinson [mailto:REMartinson@RCN.com] Sent: 04 January 2006 18:06 To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Cc: time.bandit@btinternet.com Subject: RE: [time-nuts] Austron 2200A Manual Hi Bob, While you look through your box of manuals, could you please look for a manual for the Datum 9390-5533 which I acquired via EBay. Any info would be helpful, I note that it has 12 VDC on the antenna connector so I am curious if its for a preamplified antenna or an antenna/dowmconverter. I am more then happy to pay for it. REM REMartinson@RCN.com -----Original Message----- From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kimberley Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 10:39 To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Austron 2200A Manual Luciano, I used to work for Austron before they were acquired by Datum, and have a box of old manuals in my garage. Not sure if I have this particular one, but will check and let you know. Kind Regards Rob Kimberley -----Original Message----- From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Paramithiotti, Luciano Paolo S Sent: 04 January 2006 15:07 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Austron 2200A Manual I have bought an Austron 2200A GPS receiver with internal rubidium. Unfortunately I haven't the antenna that really is a special converter. I am looking for the service manual copy . Symmetricom say it haven't. I remember my Austron is only 10 years old. Someone in the word can help me? Thanks to all in advance Luciano P. S. Paramithiotti Italy _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@febo.com https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@febo.com https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@febo.com https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list time-nuts@febo.com https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
RE
Robert E. Martinson
Wed, Jan 4, 2006 9:59 PM

My Datum 0390-5533 has a "Trimble Navigation Board, Assy 11179 Rev F", and
another Trimble board that is marked "Datum SNP board 11874 Rev A & Trimble
Navigation". This first board also contains a 16.368 MHz "frequency source"
by Greenway. I do not have the original antenna.  I bought 2 antennas from
NavSphere , they are advertised as 2.5 to 12 VDC on the NavSphere website
and clearly labeled as 2.5 - 12 VDC.  The first one failed after some hours,
thinking maybe it was a fluke I tried a second one.  Same thing it failed
after some hours.  The company refuses to answer my requests for
replacements that will work at 12 VDC as advertised.

Option is to use a Bias-T, isolate the 12 VDC & insert 5 VDC. Or obtain a 12
VDC antenna, or even the Datum or Trimble antenna.  Looking at the board
near the TNC antenna connector I see a choke L3 and a cap C5 with a ferrite
bead on one leg.  Maybe this is the 12 VDC feed to the antenna.  Will put
back together later and measure voltages later.

If this Trimble receiver down converts in the antenna, it makes the problem
considerably more difficult to solve.  What is the IF frequency?  Any hints
appreciated.

REM

-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Rob Kimberley
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 15:03
To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Austron 2200A Manual

Robert,

My pleasure Sir!

The problem here is that the antenna may not work with +5v, and may actually
need +12V. However, I have successfully done this with an Odetics receiver
in the past, but the GPS engine was not a Trimble, and I don't actually know
who made the antennae, but I do remember that they had both 12V and 5V
versions.

Worth a try though.

For the record guys, I have worked directly for Systron-Donner, Austron,
Odetics/Zyfer and have represented TrueTime, Datum, Meinberg, and KSI, so
have some useful experience (plus a load of old manuals!!)

Rob

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Behalf Of Robert E. Martinson
Sent: 04 January 2006 18:38
To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Austron 2200A Manual

Wow, thanks for the quick response!!!  Any help will be appreciated.  Maybe
I can disconnect the 12 V & put 5 V on the antenna (internally), will try
and trace the traces.

REM

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From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Rob Kimberley
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 13:20
To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Austron 2200A Manual

Hi Robert,

I do have some 9390 manuals as well but doubt if I have that one (looks like
I better check out what I have and post the list). However I do know that
Datum used Trimble engines in their GPS products which did not down convert
and some of the earlier models did have +12V feeds for the LNA inside the
antenna rather than the later and more common +5V types.

Will check and let you know.

Rob Kimberley

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From: Robert E. Martinson [mailto:REMartinson@RCN.com]
Sent: 04 January 2006 18:06
To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'
Cc: time.bandit@btinternet.com
Subject: RE: [time-nuts] Austron 2200A Manual

Hi Bob,

While you look through your box of manuals, could you please look for a
manual for the Datum 9390-5533 which I acquired via EBay.

Any info would be helpful, I note that it has 12 VDC on the antenna
connector so I am curious if its for a preamplified antenna or an
antenna/dowmconverter.

I am more then happy to pay for it.

REM
REMartinson@RCN.com

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Behalf Of Rob Kimberley
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 10:39
To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement'
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Austron 2200A Manual

Luciano,

I used to work for Austron before they were acquired by Datum, and have a
box of old manuals in my garage. Not sure if I have this particular one, but
will check and let you know.

Kind Regards

Rob Kimberley

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Behalf Of Paramithiotti, Luciano Paolo S
Sent: 04 January 2006 15:07
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: [time-nuts] Austron 2200A Manual

I have bought an Austron 2200A GPS receiver with internal rubidium.
Unfortunately I haven't the antenna that really is a special converter.
I am looking for the service manual copy . Symmetricom say it haven't.
I remember my Austron is only 10 years old.
Someone in the word can help me?

Thanks to all in advance

Luciano P. S. Paramithiotti
Italy


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My Datum 0390-5533 has a "Trimble Navigation Board, Assy 11179 Rev F", and another Trimble board that is marked "Datum SNP board 11874 Rev A & Trimble Navigation". This first board also contains a 16.368 MHz "frequency source" by Greenway. I do not have the original antenna. I bought 2 antennas from NavSphere , they are advertised as 2.5 to 12 VDC on the NavSphere website and clearly labeled as 2.5 - 12 VDC. The first one failed after some hours, thinking maybe it was a fluke I tried a second one. Same thing it failed after some hours. The company refuses to answer my requests for replacements that will work at 12 VDC as advertised. Option is to use a Bias-T, isolate the 12 VDC & insert 5 VDC. Or obtain a 12 VDC antenna, or even the Datum or Trimble antenna. Looking at the board near the TNC antenna connector I see a choke L3 and a cap C5 with a ferrite bead on one leg. Maybe this is the 12 VDC feed to the antenna. Will put back together later and measure voltages later. If this Trimble receiver down converts in the antenna, it makes the problem considerably more difficult to solve. What is the IF frequency? Any hints appreciated. REM -----Original Message----- From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kimberley Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 15:03 To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Austron 2200A Manual Robert, My pleasure Sir! The problem here is that the antenna may not work with +5v, and may actually need +12V. However, I have successfully done this with an Odetics receiver in the past, but the GPS engine was not a Trimble, and I don't actually know who made the antennae, but I do remember that they had both 12V and 5V versions. Worth a try though. For the record guys, I have worked directly for Systron-Donner, Austron, Odetics/Zyfer and have represented TrueTime, Datum, Meinberg, and KSI, so have some useful experience (plus a load of old manuals!!) Rob -----Original Message----- From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Robert E. Martinson Sent: 04 January 2006 18:38 To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Austron 2200A Manual Wow, thanks for the quick response!!! Any help will be appreciated. Maybe I can disconnect the 12 V & put 5 V on the antenna (internally), will try and trace the traces. REM -----Original Message----- From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kimberley Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 13:20 To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Austron 2200A Manual Hi Robert, I do have some 9390 manuals as well but doubt if I have that one (looks like I better check out what I have and post the list). However I do know that Datum used Trimble engines in their GPS products which did not down convert and some of the earlier models did have +12V feeds for the LNA inside the antenna rather than the later and more common +5V types. Will check and let you know. Rob Kimberley -----Original Message----- From: Robert E. Martinson [mailto:REMartinson@RCN.com] Sent: 04 January 2006 18:06 To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Cc: time.bandit@btinternet.com Subject: RE: [time-nuts] Austron 2200A Manual Hi Bob, While you look through your box of manuals, could you please look for a manual for the Datum 9390-5533 which I acquired via EBay. Any info would be helpful, I note that it has 12 VDC on the antenna connector so I am curious if its for a preamplified antenna or an antenna/dowmconverter. I am more then happy to pay for it. REM REMartinson@RCN.com -----Original Message----- From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Rob Kimberley Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2006 10:39 To: 'Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement' Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Austron 2200A Manual Luciano, I used to work for Austron before they were acquired by Datum, and have a box of old manuals in my garage. Not sure if I have this particular one, but will check and let you know. Kind Regards Rob Kimberley -----Original Message----- From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On Behalf Of Paramithiotti, Luciano Paolo S Sent: 04 January 2006 15:07 To: time-nuts@febo.com Subject: [time-nuts] Austron 2200A Manual I have bought an Austron 2200A GPS receiver with internal rubidium. Unfortunately I haven't the antenna that really is a special converter. I am looking for the service manual copy . Symmetricom say it haven't. I remember my Austron is only 10 years old. 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CS
Charles S. Osborne
Wed, Jan 4, 2006 10:39 PM

I'm looking for replacement GPS receiver daughter boards for the Z3816A or
Z3801A or CNS Clock.

Have been to Synergy's website and asked their support group where to find
Motorola UT+ form/fit/function compatible units, but they kept pointing me
at the newer smaller Motorola FS.

If this has come up before, I must have missed it. Frequent lightning storms
in summer keeps me in the hunt for these boards. Even with lightning
protection on the coaxes the EMP still gets a few every year.

Thanks,
Charles S. Osborne
Technical Director

Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute
1 PARI Drive, HC 73, Box 638
Rosman, NC 28772-9614
http://www.pari.edu
828-862-5813 direct
828-862-5554 main
828-862-5877 FAX
cosborne@pari.edu

I'm looking for replacement GPS receiver daughter boards for the Z3816A or Z3801A or CNS Clock. Have been to Synergy's website and asked their support group where to find Motorola UT+ form/fit/function compatible units, but they kept pointing me at the newer smaller Motorola FS. If this has come up before, I must have missed it. Frequent lightning storms in summer keeps me in the hunt for these boards. Even with lightning protection on the coaxes the EMP still gets a few every year. Thanks, Charles S. Osborne Technical Director Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute 1 PARI Drive, HC 73, Box 638 Rosman, NC 28772-9614 http://www.pari.edu 828-862-5813 direct 828-862-5554 main 828-862-5877 FAX cosborne@pari.edu
BK
Brian Kirby
Thu, Jan 5, 2006 2:48 AM

Did you ask if they had refurbed units - I have asked in the past and
have got what I needed (Oncore VPs).

Charles S. Osborne wrote:

I'm looking for replacement GPS receiver daughter boards for the Z3816A or
Z3801A or CNS Clock.

Have been to Synergy's website and asked their support group where to find
Motorola UT+ form/fit/function compatible units, but they kept pointing me
at the newer smaller Motorola FS.

If this has come up before, I must have missed it. Frequent lightning storms
in summer keeps me in the hunt for these boards. Even with lightning
protection on the coaxes the EMP still gets a few every year.

Thanks,
Charles S. Osborne
Technical Director

Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute
1 PARI Drive, HC 73, Box 638
Rosman, NC 28772-9614
http://www.pari.edu
828-862-5813 direct
828-862-5554 main
828-862-5877 FAX
cosborne@pari.edu


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Did you ask if they had refurbed units - I have asked in the past and have got what I needed (Oncore VPs). Charles S. Osborne wrote: >I'm looking for replacement GPS receiver daughter boards for the Z3816A or >Z3801A or CNS Clock. > >Have been to Synergy's website and asked their support group where to find >Motorola UT+ form/fit/function compatible units, but they kept pointing me >at the newer smaller Motorola FS. > >If this has come up before, I must have missed it. Frequent lightning storms >in summer keeps me in the hunt for these boards. Even with lightning >protection on the coaxes the EMP still gets a few every year. > >Thanks, >Charles S. Osborne >Technical Director > >Pisgah Astronomical Research Institute >1 PARI Drive, HC 73, Box 638 >Rosman, NC 28772-9614 >http://www.pari.edu >828-862-5813 direct >828-862-5554 main >828-862-5877 FAX >cosborne@pari.edu > > >_______________________________________________ >time-nuts mailing list >time-nuts@febo.com >https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > > >