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Lehman Multigrade v Monograde Oil

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Mike Maurice
Sun, Mar 16, 2008 6:04 PM

Don't use the multi grade in the injector pump.

Not if you value your life.

Mike


Capt. Mike Maurice
Beaverton Oregon(Near Portland)

Don't use the multi grade in the injector pump. Not if you value your life. Mike _____________________________________ Capt. Mike Maurice Beaverton Oregon(Near Portland)
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Mike Maurice
Sun, Mar 16, 2008 6:36 PM

One of the major reasons Detroit recommends the "old" oil has less to do
with lubricity than with soot.
A diesel engine oil needs 3 things.

Soot holding.
Lubricity.
A general additive package.

New engines have much less soot to contend with, oils suitable for them
are a poor choice for an engine that produces a lot of soot.

In the case of the 2 cycle detroit's soot is a big issue and if you look
at the TBN numbers, you will immediately see why they want you to use
one of the older oils that is forumulated for high soot. High TBN for
high soot.

There isn't a lot of magic in all this, just complexity. Frankly, I
would not use any of the oils intended for a late model engine in one of
the older engines, if I could avoid it. I would take a real careful look
at the TBN numbers for any intended oil and compare that with the
numbers from an oil that was originally recommended.

I would not use an additive package beyond about CF in an older engine,
especially if the engine was going to be run hard. I would be inclined
to use an additive package before about CH in an engine build before
about 2000, especially if it was to be run lightly.

This is about as clear as I know how to put this.

Regards,
Mike


Capt. Mike Maurice
Beaverton Oregon(Near Portland)

One of the major reasons Detroit recommends the "old" oil has less to do with lubricity than with soot. A diesel engine oil needs 3 things. Soot holding. Lubricity. A general additive package. New engines have much less soot to contend with, oils suitable for them are a poor choice for an engine that produces a lot of soot. In the case of the 2 cycle detroit's soot is a big issue and if you look at the TBN numbers, you will immediately see why they want you to use one of the older oils that is forumulated for high soot. High TBN for high soot. There isn't a lot of magic in all this, just complexity. Frankly, I would not use any of the oils intended for a late model engine in one of the older engines, if I could avoid it. I would take a real careful look at the TBN numbers for any intended oil and compare that with the numbers from an oil that was originally recommended. I would not use an additive package beyond about CF in an older engine, especially if the engine was going to be run hard. I would be inclined to use an additive package before about CH in an engine build before about 2000, especially if it was to be run lightly. This is about as clear as I know how to put this. Regards, Mike _____________________________________ Capt. Mike Maurice Beaverton Oregon(Near Portland)
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Mike Maurice
Sun, Mar 16, 2008 6:44 PM

By the way, I have a friend who mentions having never changed oil in a
Detroit 2 cycle. It burned/used so much oil that the constant addition
of oil, in effect became "the oil change".

Don't ask me to explain this. I hate to even admit that I have any
knowledge of it. If pressed, I will claim that I never wrote this or
know him...

Regards,
Mike


Capt. Mike Maurice
Beaverton Oregon(Near Portland)

By the way, I have a friend who mentions having never changed oil in a Detroit 2 cycle. It burned/used so much oil that the constant addition of oil, in effect became "the oil change". Don't ask me to explain this. I hate to even admit that I have any knowledge of it. If pressed, I will claim that I never wrote this or know him... Regards, Mike _____________________________________ Capt. Mike Maurice Beaverton Oregon(Near Portland)
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DANIEL F GREEN
Sun, Mar 16, 2008 8:29 PM

I am beginning to get my Legacy 32 ready to use this year.  It is new to me
and there is much to do and learn.  There is very little information on this
boat (not to be confused with Legacy 32 Express or Sedans which are go fast
trawlers and have lots of information) so I have started a blog to get a bit
more information out there.  Leo has shared some of his stuff with me.  If
anyone else has information on this boat or owns one, I would be interested in
corresponding with you.  If you want to see what have, go to the internet
address below.

Dan Green
Popeye -Legacy 32 Mark III
Oregon City, OR
legacy32.blogspot.com

I am beginning to get my Legacy 32 ready to use this year. It is new to me and there is much to do and learn. There is very little information on this boat (not to be confused with Legacy 32 Express or Sedans which are go fast trawlers and have lots of information) so I have started a blog to get a bit more information out there. Leo has shared some of his stuff with me. If anyone else has information on this boat or owns one, I would be interested in corresponding with you. If you want to see what have, go to the internet address below. Dan Green Popeye -Legacy 32 Mark III Oregon City, OR legacy32.blogspot.com
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Parvey
Sun, Mar 16, 2008 11:56 PM

Mike,

That's an intriguing statement.

I'll bite, what happens?

Regards,

--Jim

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Maurice
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Subject: Re: T&T: Lehman Multigrade v Monograde Oil

Don't use the multi grade in the injector pump.

Not if you value your life.

Mike


Capt. Mike Maurice
Beaverton Oregon(Near Portland)


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Mike, That's an intriguing statement. I'll bite, what happens? Regards, --Jim -----Original Message----- From: trawlers-and-trawlering-bounces@lists.samurai.com [mailto:trawlers-and-trawlering-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of Mike Maurice Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 11:05 AM To: TT Subject: Re: T&T: Lehman Multigrade v Monograde Oil Don't use the multi grade in the injector pump. Not if you value your life. Mike _____________________________________ Capt. Mike Maurice Beaverton Oregon(Near Portland) _______________________________________________ http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change email address, etc) go to: http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/trawlers-and-trawlering Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited.
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Keith
Tue, Mar 18, 2008 1:58 PM

Straight 40W is what's recommended for Lehmans in warm climates. That's what
I use here in Texas.

Keith


The sooner you fall behind, the more time you'll have to catch up.
----- Original Message -----
From: "L H" pugettrawler37@earthlink.net

Lehman engines were designed and built to run on straight 30wt oil.
That's
what I will stick with.  It has worked for 4,000 hours in my engine, and I
cannot afford to experiment on my own engine.

Straight 40W is what's recommended for Lehmans in warm climates. That's what I use here in Texas. Keith _____ The sooner you fall behind, the more time you'll have to catch up. ----- Original Message ----- From: "L H" <pugettrawler37@earthlink.net> > > Lehman engines were designed and built to run on straight 30wt oil. > That's > what I will stick with. It has worked for 4,000 hours in my engine, and I > cannot afford to experiment on my own engine.