>Peter wrote: >While the cooktop on the Force 10 is superb (love the hinge-up grate!), the oven design is poor. While a seeming neat design, in order to get the articulated hinge door to "disappear" underneath rather than simply hinge down, the heating element is located along the far back edge, creating an enormous hot spot in the back of the oven, a cold spot in front. I'm assuming you're talking about a Force 10 electric range since you spoke of a "heating element.". I believe the original poster was asking about a propane range. We have a Force 10 three-burner propane range, and unless the new models are different (ours is five years old), the oven burner is in the center of the bottom of the oven. My wife does a lot of baking on board, from biscuits to casseroles to brownies, and there seems to be no problem with uneven heating. But I can see how if the burner or an electric element were at the back, there would be. ______________________________ C. Marin Faure GB36-403 "La Perouse" Bellingham, Washington