JF
J. Forster
Wed, May 2, 2012 7:20 PM
Clearly a scam attempt, IMO.
You have your stuff. You are not bound by Italian law, unless the EU is
worse than I thought.
IMO, ignore it, and if the purchase was made through eBay, report it as a
phishing attempt.
YMMV,
-John
===========
Hi T-Nuts
In january 2012 - I bought a Prologix GPIB interface from an Italian
Seller "sglabs" on the "Bay".
Today i received a mail from the seller
******************** SNIP *************************
I need a favor form youâ¦
Here in Italy is requiring by lawâ¦. that for all customers that have
bought something from us, I need to have also birthplace and birthdayâ¦
Iâm sorry to disturb for this reason, but I need help from you.
Thanks for collaboration
Best regards
******************** SNIP *************************
The mail actually looks quite authentic , Correct name & phone# etc.
But i have never heard of such a request before. And was wondering if any
Italian T-Nut could verify that this request is valid.
It seems a bit strange to me ...
TIA
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Clearly a scam attempt, IMO.
You have your stuff. You are not bound by Italian law, unless the EU is
worse than I thought.
IMO, ignore it, and if the purchase was made through eBay, report it as a
phishing attempt.
YMMV,
-John
===========
> Hi T-Nuts
>
> In january 2012 - I bought a Prologix GPIB interface from an Italian
> Seller "sglabs" on the "Bay".
>
> Today i received a mail from the seller
>
> ******************** SNIP *************************
>
> I need a favor form youâ¦
>
> Here in Italy is requiring by lawâ¦. that for all customers that have
> bought something from us, I need to have also birthplace and birthdayâ¦
>
> Iâm sorry to disturb for this reason, but I need help from you.
>
> Thanks for collaboration
> Best regards
> ******************** SNIP *************************
>
> The mail actually looks quite authentic , Correct name & phone# etc.
> But i have never heard of such a request before. And was wondering if any
> Italian T-Nut could verify that this request is valid.
>
> It seems a bit strange to me ...
>
> TIA
> CFO - Tnut beginner Denmark
>
>
>
>
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AB
Azelio Boriani
Wed, May 2, 2012 7:34 PM
Never seen a request like that before... usually they try to get login
credentials for home banking, credit cards accounts and the like. Here in
Italy, every transaction with the tax authority starts with the VAT ID (our
codice fiscale).
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:20 PM, J. Forster jfor@quikus.com wrote:
Clearly a scam attempt, IMO.
You have your stuff. You are not bound by Italian law, unless the EU is
worse than I thought.
IMO, ignore it, and if the purchase was made through eBay, report it as a
phishing attempt.
YMMV,
-John
===========
Hi T-Nuts
In january 2012 - I bought a Prologix GPIB interface from an Italian
Seller "sglabs" on the "Bay".
Today i received a mail from the seller
******************** SNIP *************************
I need a favor form you…
Here in Italy is requiring by law…. that for all customers that have
bought something from us, I need to have also birthplace and birthday…
I’m sorry to disturb for this reason, but I need help from you.
Thanks for collaboration
Best regards
******************** SNIP *************************
The mail actually looks quite authentic , Correct name & phone# etc.
But i have never heard of such a request before. And was wondering if any
Italian T-Nut could verify that this request is valid.
It seems a bit strange to me ...
TIA
CFO - Tnut beginner Denmark
time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com
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Never seen a request like that before... usually they try to get login
credentials for home banking, credit cards accounts and the like. Here in
Italy, every transaction with the tax authority starts with the VAT ID (our
codice fiscale).
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:20 PM, J. Forster <jfor@quikus.com> wrote:
> Clearly a scam attempt, IMO.
>
> You have your stuff. You are not bound by Italian law, unless the EU is
> worse than I thought.
>
> IMO, ignore it, and if the purchase was made through eBay, report it as a
> phishing attempt.
>
> YMMV,
>
> -John
>
> ===========
>
>
>
>
>
> > Hi T-Nuts
> >
> > In january 2012 - I bought a Prologix GPIB interface from an Italian
> > Seller "sglabs" on the "Bay".
> >
> > Today i received a mail from the seller
> >
> > ******************** SNIP *************************
> >
> > I need a favor form you…
> >
> > Here in Italy is requiring by law…. that for all customers that have
> > bought something from us, I need to have also birthplace and birthday…
> >
> > I’m sorry to disturb for this reason, but I need help from you.
> >
> > Thanks for collaboration
> > Best regards
> > ******************** SNIP *************************
> >
> > The mail actually looks quite authentic , Correct name & phone# etc.
> > But i have never heard of such a request before. And was wondering if any
> > Italian T-Nut could verify that this request is valid.
> >
> > It seems a bit strange to me ...
> >
> > TIA
> > CFO - Tnut beginner Denmark
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com
> > To unsubscribe, go to
> > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
> > and follow the instructions there.
> >
> >
>
>
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J. Forster
Wed, May 2, 2012 7:39 PM
Whatever the Italian law, I see no reason to furnish such information
after the fact, unless it was required by the original contract.
Frankly, IF the original contract specified that such information was
required to purchase any item, I would either shop elsewhere or do
without.
YMMV,
-John
================
On 05/02/2012 07:48 PM, Alberto di Bene wrote:
I am from Italy, and I can assure you that such info is not required by
any Italian law.
Don't give away information that could in the end result in an
identity thief...
Alberto,
I'm not an expert in the ever-changing italian fiscal laws, but as far
as I understood recent dispositions (to fight VAT evasion) may require
to have the birth date and place for private foreign customers (see
"spesometro"), at least for purchases over a certain amount.
Anyway, better to try to contact the seller for clarifications...
Regards,
Claudio
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Whatever the Italian law, I see no reason to furnish such information
after the fact, unless it was required by the original contract.
Frankly, IF the original contract specified that such information was
required to purchase any item, I would either shop elsewhere or do
without.
YMMV,
-John
================
> On 05/02/2012 07:48 PM, Alberto di Bene wrote:
>> I am from Italy, and I can assure you that such info is not required by
>> any Italian law.
>> Don't give away information that could in the end result in an
>> identity thief...
>
> Alberto,
> I'm not an expert in the ever-changing italian fiscal laws, but as far
> as I understood recent dispositions (to fight VAT evasion) may require
> to have the birth date and place for private foreign customers (see
> "spesometro"), at least for purchases over a certain amount.
> Anyway, better to try to contact the seller for clarifications...
>
> Regards,
> Claudio
>
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AB
Azelio Boriani
Wed, May 2, 2012 7:42 PM
Yes, Claudio words sound correct: maybe this is a very recent disposition
to fight VAT evasion that is just the latest news here in Italy. I'll try
to find something on an official website.
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Azelio Boriani azelio.boriani@screen.itwrote:
Never seen a request like that before... usually they try to get login
credentials for home banking, credit cards accounts and the like. Here in
Italy, every transaction with the tax authority starts with the VAT ID (our
codice fiscale).
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:20 PM, J. Forster jfor@quikus.com wrote:
Clearly a scam attempt, IMO.
You have your stuff. You are not bound by Italian law, unless the EU is
worse than I thought.
IMO, ignore it, and if the purchase was made through eBay, report it as a
phishing attempt.
YMMV,
-John
===========
Hi T-Nuts
In january 2012 - I bought a Prologix GPIB interface from an Italian
Seller "sglabs" on the "Bay".
Today i received a mail from the seller
******************** SNIP *************************
I need a favor form you…
Here in Italy is requiring by law…. that for all customers that have
bought something from us, I need to have also birthplace and birthday…
I’m sorry to disturb for this reason, but I need help from you.
Thanks for collaboration
Best regards
******************** SNIP *************************
The mail actually looks quite authentic , Correct name & phone# etc.
But i have never heard of such a request before. And was wondering if
Yes, Claudio words sound correct: maybe this is a very recent disposition
to fight VAT evasion that is just the latest news here in Italy. I'll try
to find something on an official website.
On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Azelio Boriani <azelio.boriani@screen.it>wrote:
> Never seen a request like that before... usually they try to get login
> credentials for home banking, credit cards accounts and the like. Here in
> Italy, every transaction with the tax authority starts with the VAT ID (our
> codice fiscale).
>
>
> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 9:20 PM, J. Forster <jfor@quikus.com> wrote:
>
>> Clearly a scam attempt, IMO.
>>
>> You have your stuff. You are not bound by Italian law, unless the EU is
>> worse than I thought.
>>
>> IMO, ignore it, and if the purchase was made through eBay, report it as a
>> phishing attempt.
>>
>> YMMV,
>>
>> -John
>>
>> ===========
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> > Hi T-Nuts
>> >
>> > In january 2012 - I bought a Prologix GPIB interface from an Italian
>> > Seller "sglabs" on the "Bay".
>> >
>> > Today i received a mail from the seller
>> >
>> > ******************** SNIP *************************
>> >
>> > I need a favor form you…
>> >
>> > Here in Italy is requiring by law…. that for all customers that have
>> > bought something from us, I need to have also birthplace and birthday…
>> >
>> > I’m sorry to disturb for this reason, but I need help from you.
>> >
>> > Thanks for collaboration
>> > Best regards
>> > ******************** SNIP *************************
>> >
>> > The mail actually looks quite authentic , Correct name & phone# etc.
>> > But i have never heard of such a request before. And was wondering if
>> any
>> > Italian T-Nut could verify that this request is valid.
>> >
>> > It seems a bit strange to me ...
>> >
>> > TIA
>> > CFO - Tnut beginner Denmark
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com
>> > To unsubscribe, go to
>> > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts
>> > and follow the instructions there.
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
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Marco IK1ODO
Wed, May 2, 2012 7:50 PM
The reason may be trivial. Ask the seller, he is a correct person.
Anyway, the birthplace and DOB of a person are very easy to obtain on
the web - it would be a stupid scam. But knowing the seller, I'm sure
it is not.
Being a dealer too, you can't believe the number of fiscal rules we
have to obey. Accounting for the sale to a private customer outside
Italy may be a nightmare.
73 - Marco IK1ODO
The reason may be trivial. Ask the seller, he is a correct person.
Anyway, the birthplace and DOB of a person are very easy to obtain on
the web - it would be a stupid scam. But knowing the seller, I'm sure
it is not.
Being a dealer too, you can't believe the number of fiscal rules we
have to obey. Accounting for the sale to a private customer outside
Italy may be a nightmare.
73 - Marco IK1ODO
CG
Claudio Girardi
Wed, May 2, 2012 8:32 PM
On 05/02/2012 07:48 PM, Alberto di Bene wrote:
I am from Italy, and I can assure you that such info is not required by
any Italian law.
Don't give away information that could in the end result in an
identity thief...
Alberto,
I'm not an expert in the ever-changing italian fiscal laws, but as far
as I understood recent dispositions (to fight VAT evasion) may require
to have the birth date and place for private foreign customers (see
"spesometro"), at least for purchases over a certain amount.
Anyway, better to try to contact the seller for clarifications...
Regards,
Claudio
On 05/02/2012 07:48 PM, Alberto di Bene wrote:
> I am from Italy, and I can assure you that such info is not required by
> any Italian law.
> Don't give away information that could in the end result in an
> identity thief...
Alberto,
I'm not an expert in the ever-changing italian fiscal laws, but as far
as I understood recent dispositions (to fight VAT evasion) may require
to have the birth date and place for private foreign customers (see
"spesometro"), at least for purchases over a certain amount.
Anyway, better to try to contact the seller for clarifications...
Regards,
Claudio