I want revise and extend my remarks. <G>. I said typically you would not visit your packing every day. That's true, except when cruising hard over a long haul (is "cruising hard" an oxymoron?) When we are running up the coast and running 5 - 10 hours or more continuous, I do check the stuffing every evening as part of my general walk around the engine (or in my boat it's a contort around) inspection. When we are gunkholing around and maybe running easy for a few hours a day, I do not. Joe Engel