1. Re: Liferaft inspection and recommendations (Keith)
2. Re: Liferaft inspection and recommendations (Dave Cooper)

We recently had our 8-man Avon repacked in Ft. Lauderdale. They charged $900 to replace the few items in the emegency bag, claiming that it was a year past due and "everything" had to be replaced. I think the retail cost for "everything" is about $100.00. Keith's idea about just sending the items for packing are good, but don't expect them to guarantee their work if you do. Dan Excalibur Cheoy Lee 55 >From: passagemaking-under-power-request@lists.samurai.com >Reply-To: passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com >To: passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com >Subject: Passagemaking-Under-Power Digest, Vol 34, Issue 16 >Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 00:00:02 -0400 > >Send Passagemaking-Under-Power mailing list submissions to > passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/passagemaking-under-power >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > passagemaking-under-power-request@lists.samurai.com > >You can reach the person managing the list at > passagemaking-under-power-owner@lists.samurai.com > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Passagemaking-Under-Power digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Liferaft inspection and recommendations (Keith) > 2. Re: Liferaft inspection and recommendations (Dave Cooper) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 09:09:50 -0500 >From: "Keith" <keith@anastasia3.com> >Subject: Re: [PUP] Liferaft inspection and recommendations >To: "Passagemaking Under Power List" > <passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com> >Message-ID: <00dd01c7fdeb$6920d610$c4aac446@40134410001> >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > >I sent my Winslow back for repacking after about 4 years. It was fine, but >the cost of replacing the expired items was surprisingly high. >Specifically, >a couple of batteries for the strobe were about $50 each (obviously >specialty items) and the light sticks were a whopping $10 each or so. I >think next time I'll see if I can just send them the items and have them >put >them in the repack for me, instead of buying all the stuff from them. I did >have the raft vacuum packed, so it's good for at least three more years >without a repack. It is in a valise in the saloon, stored indoors but >quickly accessible. > >I saw someone suggest that you should inflate your liferaft right before >the >repack. While it's a good idea to become familiar with your raft before you >need it, I've been told that you should never inflate it with the CO2 >cylinder unless it's a true emergency. At the factory, they just use >compressed air to inflate it slowly to pressure test it. I know Winslow >welcomes you to the factory to see your re-pack (or original assembly) if >you set up a schedule with them in advance. > > >Keith >_____ >Life is short, make fun of it. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Dave Cooper" <swansong@gmn-usa.com> > > > > > I wish I could say wow but over the years Scott's experience have >matched > > ours. More often than not the liferaft's were basically condemned by our > > repacker in ST Thomas when sent for repack. Seams that had delaminated, > > tanks that were corroded, the list goes on. > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 2 >Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 11:45:22 -0400 >From: "Dave Cooper" <swansong@gmn-usa.com> >Subject: Re: [PUP] Liferaft inspection and recommendations >To: "'Passagemaking Under Power List'" > <passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com> >Message-ID: <008c01c7fdf8$c0b9fe80$7101a8c0@Dell> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > ><Keith wrote: I think next time I'll see if I can just send them the items >and have them put them in the repack for me, instead of buying all the >stuff >from them.> > >Many repacking stations will only certify the pack if they supply the gear. >Sort of like use my oil filters or no warranty on the engine! I don't agree >with this but you should make sure that whomever you select will do what >you >wish and still sign the papers. Also remember that some manufacturers >specify what can go into the repack. > >Some of the stuff I've seen in rafts was just junk and the charge of the >repack was astronomical for this "junk". > >Here is a good article on liferaft repackers. >http://www.caribbeancompass.com/liferaft.htm > >Brad's parachute analogy is good. > >Sort of like some cars that have been in an accident and the repair shop >doesn't repack and arm the airbags correctly. Lots of good they do for you >when you discover this. > >As always YMMV.... > >Dave & Nancy >Swan Song >Roughwater 58 > > >------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Passagemaking-Under-Power Mailing List > >End of Passagemaking-Under-Power Digest, Vol 34, Issue 16 >********************************************************* http://gethalo3gear.com?ocid=SeptemberWLHalo3_MSNHMTxt_1

People, I have read this list with great interest and it has so many experienced people here I would wish to ask you opinion on the best overall watermaker, many people seem to have trouble with watermakers and some watermakers seem to work better than others there are even manual ones which drag behind eg the Waterlog Watermaker. Your opinions and experiences would be appreciated. Regards David Law Daniel Guenther <danieljamesguenther@hotmail.com> wrote: We recently had our 8-man Avon repacked in Ft. Lauderdale. They charged $900 to replace the few items in the emegency bag, claiming that it was a year past due and "everything" had to be replaced. I think the retail cost for "everything" is about $100.00. Keith's idea about just sending the items for packing are good, but don't expect them to guarantee their work if you do. Dan Excalibur Cheoy Lee 55 >From: passagemaking-under-power-request@lists.samurai.com >Reply-To: passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com >To: passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com >Subject: Passagemaking-Under-Power Digest, Vol 34, Issue 16 >Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2007 00:00:02 -0400 > >Send Passagemaking-Under-Power mailing list submissions to > passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/passagemaking-under-power >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > passagemaking-under-power-request@lists.samurai.com > >You can reach the person managing the list at > passagemaking-under-power-owner@lists.samurai.com > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of Passagemaking-Under-Power digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Liferaft inspection and recommendations (Keith) > 2. Re: Liferaft inspection and recommendations (Dave Cooper) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 09:09:50 -0500 >From: "Keith" >Subject: Re: [PUP] Liferaft inspection and recommendations >To: "Passagemaking Under Power List" > >Message-ID: <00dd01c7fdeb$6920d610$c4aac446@40134410001> >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > >I sent my Winslow back for repacking after about 4 years. It was fine, but >the cost of replacing the expired items was surprisingly high. >Specifically, >a couple of batteries for the strobe were about $50 each (obviously >specialty items) and the light sticks were a whopping $10 each or so. I >think next time I'll see if I can just send them the items and have them >put >them in the repack for me, instead of buying all the stuff from them. I did >have the raft vacuum packed, so it's good for at least three more years >without a repack. It is in a valise in the saloon, stored indoors but >quickly accessible. > >I saw someone suggest that you should inflate your liferaft right before >the >repack. While it's a good idea to become familiar with your raft before you >need it, I've been told that you should never inflate it with the CO2 >cylinder unless it's a true emergency. At the factory, they just use >compressed air to inflate it slowly to pressure test it. I know Winslow >welcomes you to the factory to see your re-pack (or original assembly) if >you set up a schedule with them in advance. > > >Keith >_____ >Life is short, make fun of it. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Dave Cooper" > > > > > I wish I could say wow but over the years Scott's experience have >matched > > ours. More often than not the liferaft's were basically condemned by our > > repacker in ST Thomas when sent for repack. Seams that had delaminated, > > tanks that were corroded, the list goes on. > > >------------------------------ > >Message: 2 >Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2007 11:45:22 -0400 >From: "Dave Cooper" >Subject: Re: [PUP] Liferaft inspection and recommendations >To: "'Passagemaking Under Power List'" > >Message-ID: <008c01c7fdf8$c0b9fe80$7101a8c0@Dell> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > >>and have them put them in the repack for me, instead of buying all the >stuff >from them.> > >Many repacking stations will only certify the pack if they supply the gear. >Sort of like use my oil filters or no warranty on the engine! I don't agree >with this but you should make sure that whomever you select will do what >you >wish and still sign the papers. Also remember that some manufacturers >specify what can go into the repack. > >Some of the stuff I've seen in rafts was just junk and the charge of the >repack was astronomical for this "junk". > >Here is a good article on liferaft repackers. >http://www.caribbeancompass.com/liferaft.htm > >Brad's parachute analogy is good. > >Sort of like some cars that have been in an accident and the repair shop >doesn't repack and arm the airbags correctly. Lots of good they do for you >when you discover this. > >As always YMMV.... > >Dave & Nancy >Swan Song >Roughwater 58 > > >------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Passagemaking-Under-Power Mailing List > >End of Passagemaking-Under-Power Digest, Vol 34, Issue 16 >********************************************************* http://gethalo3gear.com?ocid=SeptemberWLHalo3_MSNHMTxt_1 _______________________________________________ http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/passagemaking-under-power To unsubscribe send email to passagemaking-under-power-request@lists.samurai.com with the word UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else in the subject or body of the message. Passagemaking Under Power and PUP are trademarks of Water World Productions, formerly known as Trawler World Productions.

Several people have made the point below. However, what good is a guarantee or warranty? Who will be around to pursue the matter? I realize there could be a circumstance where they botch the job and you survive, but ..... A repack by the manufacturer or a commercial facility is best. Do you remember the scandal about the fraudulent repacker in RI? Ron Rogers ----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniel Guenther" <danieljamesguenther@hotmail.com> | Keith's idea about just sending the items for packing are good, but don't | expect them to guarantee their work if you do.