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Peter Sheppard
Sat, Apr 17, 2010 11:47 PM

Loved the Jessica Watson exchange as it brought some passion (just
normal everyday human stuff) into this new medium that we live in today.
Stultifying ones emotions can lead to health problems. Lorenzo, I didn't
know Darwin said this - brilliant because I agree 100%
I'm an Aussie just arrived on my boat in Seattle. Just love the place
and the Yanks. Fortunately haven't run into anyone yet that is a moral
crusader for anti sensibility issues. In life you will find the
braggards, ego maniacs, confrontationists (me), contrarians, etc, then
on the other hand you will find the moralistic, holier than thou, anti
confrontationists. All have a place in our life, always have, always
will. Don't like a paper's editorial stance, don't buy it. Don't like an
article, don't read it. But respect everyone's opinion and their right
to express it I say. This is surely how life just flows.
Getting switched over to 110/60 has been an fairly expensive exercise
for my boat is now working perfectly due to good advice from US friends.
I have been in touch with the US Govt to change the buoyage system to
International for us poor foreigners, but due to no response, I have
decided to pretend I'm going out of a port instead into one, and hope I
don't forget in all the confusion to provision or bunker. As we say in
Oz I won't know whose up who, or who hasn't paid.
This site has waxed and waned, and been moribund for some time. Alan
don't tighten it up too much, just let the flow happen, and maybe
suggest if some people want to have a good horn lock, going off site
together maybe a good way to bury the hatchet.
Respectfully yours,
Peter Sheppard
N55#38 Elliot Bay Marina
Seattle USA

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  1. Re: Jessica's  achievement and WW2 (Arild Jensen)
  2. Re: Jessica's achievement and WW2 (Ross Anderson)
  3. Jessicas Attchevement ? (Lorenzo Boelitz)
  4. Response to Randal re our Post July 12, 2005 (David Bock)

Message: 1
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 00:34:27 -0700
From: "Arild Jensen" 2elnav@netbistro.com
To: passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com
Subject: Re: [PUP] Jessica's  achievement and WW2
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From: "Noel Anderson" nandrand@xtra.co.nz

.....I would not want you guys

on my team if my back was against the wall... Do the honarable thing
appolagize.....If you have guts....

                       Noel in Kiwiland

Noel  I apologize for offending your sensibilities  but  being down
under I
guess your sensibilities are different than  here at the top of the
world at
lat 55N.  < smile>
I fail to see what Jessica's Hollywood style grab for publicity  has to
do
with WW2 .
And yes I was  thoroughly indoctrinated abut the sacrifices of  youth
during
WW2 while I was in the Navy.
I grew up on the stories of the exploits of what my parents did under
Nazi
occupation. Did you know when the leader of the Danish occupation was
arrested and sentenced to death by firing squad he was all of nineteen
and
had been active for four years? My hat's off to those young people.
When Robin took off in Dove way back then; it was without fanfare etc.
No
marketing publicities, no hype, just cast  off and go.  That I respect!.
But a highly publicized  stunt to get into a Guinness  book of Records
as
first something or youngest something  . . .hhmmmm now that is  too
much
like American  style hype and that I do not agree with. We have too
much of
American  bragging  in this world already . I'm disappointed to see you
guys
down under swallowing that kind of empty dialogue . We see too much of
that
in their Hollywood  exported movies  already .
Had Jessica simply departed quietly and made her announcement after the
fact
that I would applaud and respect.  But not this publicity hype before
the
fact.
Its not her doing. The publicity show was her parent's doing.  But the
hype
changes it from a personal effort to a publicity stunt..
I would refer you to Matthew Chapter 6 verse 5  which could equally well
be
applied to any public bragging if you still haven't understood my
meaning.
One thing my parents taught me was to act  first then talk about it
later,
but only  if necessary.
Regards
Arild


Message: 2
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 07:45:50 -0400
From: Ross Anderson 10and2@gmail.com
To: Arild Jensen 2elnav@netbistro.com
Cc: passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com
Subject: Re: [PUP] Jessica's achievement and WW2
Message-ID:
x2we6abc54b1004150445x2641d74fg3e6e2c327a416a0d@mail.gmail.com
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Is this a site about passaging or a venting site. There are plenty of
sites
which support those that need to vent, try facebook and twitter and
leave
this site for information which helps us all as we voyage to wonderful
places around the world! God Bless - Ross on 10&2

On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 3:34 AM, Arild Jensen 2elnav@netbistro.com
wrote:

From: "Noel Anderson" nandrand@xtra.co.nz

.....I would not want you guys

on my team if my back was against the wall... Do the honarable thing
appolagize.....If you have guts....

                      Noel in Kiwiland

Noel  I apologize for offending your sensibilities  but  being down

under I

guess your sensibilities are different than  here at the top of the

world at

lat 55N.  < smile>
I fail to see what Jessica's Hollywood style grab for publicity  has

to do

with WW2 .
And yes I was  thoroughly indoctrinated abut the sacrifices of  youth
during WW2 while I was in the Navy.
I grew up on the stories of the exploits of what my parents did under

Nazi

occupation. Did you know when the leader of the Danish occupation was
arrested and sentenced to death by firing squad he was all of nineteen

and

had been active for four years? My hat's off to those young people.
When Robin took off in Dove way back then; it was without fanfare etc.

No

marketing publicities, no hype, just cast  off and go.  That I

respect!.

But a highly publicized  stunt to get into a Guinness  book of Records

as

first something or youngest something  . . .hhmmmm now that is  too

much

like American  style hype and that I do not agree with. We have too

much of

American  bragging  in this world already . I'm disappointed to see

you guys

down under swallowing that kind of empty dialogue . We see too much of

that

in their Hollywood  exported movies  already .
Had Jessica simply departed quietly and made her announcement after

the

fact that I would applaud and respect.  But not this publicity hype

before

the fact.
Its not her doing. The publicity show was her parent's doing.  But

the

hype changes it from a personal effort to a publicity stunt..
I would refer you to Matthew Chapter 6 verse 5  which could equally

well be

applied to any public bragging if you still haven't understood my

meaning.

One thing my parents taught me was to act  first then talk about it

later,

but only  if necessary.
Regards
Arild


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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 05:55:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Lorenzo Boelitz lorenzo@backyards.biz
To: passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com
Subject: [PUP] Jessicas Attchevement ?
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Read Darwin
Aberrant behavior is essential to the survival of a species.


Message: 4
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 12:22:59 -0400
From: David Bock docdoodles@hotmail.com
To: passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com
Subject: [PUP] Response to Randal re our Post July 12, 2005
Message-ID: SNT132-w418B4E2A0D42B9BE37550EDD0F0@phx.gbl
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Salty Dawg started the wrong way around and crossed the Atlantic with
Medbound
2007 led by Milt Baker with a total of 3 Nordhavns.

We wintered 07/08 in Almerimar, Spain, cruised eastbound thru the Med
summer
of 2008 visiting Balaeric Island, touched on Sardinia, Sicily, Malta,
mainland
Italy, Montenegro, Croatia, rounded the Pelaponese of Greece, coasted
the
northern part of Crete and are now hopeless lost for our second winter
in
Turkey.  This summer we will be the only powerboat among80 vessels on
the
Eastern Med Yacht Rally to Northern Cyprus, Syria, Lebabon, Israel,
Egypt and
back to Israel with a land tour to Jordan and then back to Turkey.

Future plans are Malaysia and Thailand via the Red Sea and Gulf of Aden
(pirate alley) either on our own bottom or as deck freight on a big ship
for
safety concerns.

Ya--we are living the dream--every day

Lowie, David and Danforth (the Golden Doodles--our anchor as we cruise
the
world)


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Loved the Jessica Watson exchange as it brought some passion (just normal everyday human stuff) into this new medium that we live in today. Stultifying ones emotions can lead to health problems. Lorenzo, I didn't know Darwin said this - brilliant because I agree 100% I'm an Aussie just arrived on my boat in Seattle. Just love the place and the Yanks. Fortunately haven't run into anyone yet that is a moral crusader for anti sensibility issues. In life you will find the braggards, ego maniacs, confrontationists (me), contrarians, etc, then on the other hand you will find the moralistic, holier than thou, anti confrontationists. All have a place in our life, always have, always will. Don't like a paper's editorial stance, don't buy it. Don't like an article, don't read it. But respect everyone's opinion and their right to express it I say. This is surely how life just flows. Getting switched over to 110/60 has been an fairly expensive exercise for my boat is now working perfectly due to good advice from US friends. I have been in touch with the US Govt to change the buoyage system to International for us poor foreigners, but due to no response, I have decided to pretend I'm going out of a port instead into one, and hope I don't forget in all the confusion to provision or bunker. As we say in Oz I won't know whose up who, or who hasn't paid. This site has waxed and waned, and been moribund for some time. Alan don't tighten it up too much, just let the flow happen, and maybe suggest if some people want to have a good horn lock, going off site together maybe a good way to bury the hatchet. Respectfully yours, Peter Sheppard N55#38 Elliot Bay Marina Seattle USA -----Original Message----- From: passagemaking-under-power-bounces@lists.samurai.com [mailto:passagemaking-under-power-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of passagemaking-under-power-request@lists.samurai.com Sent: Friday, 16 April 2010 6:00 AM To: passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com Subject: Passagemaking-Under-Power Digest, Vol 65, Issue 6 Send Passagemaking-Under-Power mailing list submissions to passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/passagemaking-under-power or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to passagemaking-under-power-request@lists.samurai.com You can reach the person managing the list at passagemaking-under-power-owner@lists.samurai.com When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Passagemaking-Under-Power digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Jessica's achievement and WW2 (Arild Jensen) 2. Re: Jessica's achievement and WW2 (Ross Anderson) 3. Jessicas Attchevement ? (Lorenzo Boelitz) 4. Response to Randal re our Post July 12, 2005 (David Bock) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 00:34:27 -0700 From: "Arild Jensen" <2elnav@netbistro.com> To: <passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com> Subject: Re: [PUP] Jessica's achievement and WW2 Message-ID: <24E5420574E04C309D37F93F025EE8AC@arild354a5d1c9> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original > From: "Noel Anderson" <nandrand@xtra.co.nz> .....I would not want you guys > on my team if my back was against the wall... Do the honarable thing > appolagize.....If you have guts.... > > Noel in Kiwiland Noel I apologize for offending your sensibilities but being down under I guess your sensibilities are different than here at the top of the world at lat 55N. < smile> I fail to see what Jessica's Hollywood style grab for publicity has to do with WW2 . And yes I was thoroughly indoctrinated abut the sacrifices of youth during WW2 while I was in the Navy. I grew up on the stories of the exploits of what my parents did under Nazi occupation. Did you know when the leader of the Danish occupation was arrested and sentenced to death by firing squad he was all of nineteen and had been active for four years? My hat's off to those young people. When Robin took off in Dove way back then; it was without fanfare etc. No marketing publicities, no hype, just cast off and go. That I respect!. But a highly publicized stunt to get into a Guinness book of Records as first something or youngest something . . .hhmmmm now that is too much like American style hype and that I do not agree with. We have too much of American bragging in this world already . I'm disappointed to see you guys down under swallowing that kind of empty dialogue . We see too much of that in their Hollywood exported movies already . Had Jessica simply departed quietly and made her announcement after the fact that I would applaud and respect. But not this publicity hype before the fact. Its not her doing. The publicity show was her parent's doing. But the hype changes it from a personal effort to a publicity stunt.. I would refer you to Matthew Chapter 6 verse 5 which could equally well be applied to any public bragging if you still haven't understood my meaning. One thing my parents taught me was to act first then talk about it later, but only if necessary. Regards Arild ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 07:45:50 -0400 From: Ross Anderson <10and2@gmail.com> To: Arild Jensen <2elnav@netbistro.com> Cc: passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com Subject: Re: [PUP] Jessica's achievement and WW2 Message-ID: <x2we6abc54b1004150445x2641d74fg3e6e2c327a416a0d@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Is this a site about passaging or a venting site. There are plenty of sites which support those that need to vent, try facebook and twitter and leave this site for information which helps us all as we voyage to wonderful places around the world! God Bless - Ross on 10&2 On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 3:34 AM, Arild Jensen <2elnav@netbistro.com> wrote: > From: "Noel Anderson" <nandrand@xtra.co.nz> >> > .....I would not want you guys > >> on my team if my back was against the wall... Do the honarable thing >> appolagize.....If you have guts.... >> >> Noel in Kiwiland >> > > Noel I apologize for offending your sensibilities but being down under I > guess your sensibilities are different than here at the top of the world at > lat 55N. < smile> > I fail to see what Jessica's Hollywood style grab for publicity has to do > with WW2 . > And yes I was thoroughly indoctrinated abut the sacrifices of youth > during WW2 while I was in the Navy. > I grew up on the stories of the exploits of what my parents did under Nazi > occupation. Did you know when the leader of the Danish occupation was > arrested and sentenced to death by firing squad he was all of nineteen and > had been active for four years? My hat's off to those young people. > When Robin took off in Dove way back then; it was without fanfare etc. No > marketing publicities, no hype, just cast off and go. That I respect!. > But a highly publicized stunt to get into a Guinness book of Records as > first something or youngest something . . .hhmmmm now that is too much > like American style hype and that I do not agree with. We have too much of > American bragging in this world already . I'm disappointed to see you guys > down under swallowing that kind of empty dialogue . We see too much of that > in their Hollywood exported movies already . > Had Jessica simply departed quietly and made her announcement after the > fact that I would applaud and respect. But not this publicity hype before > the fact. > Its not her doing. The publicity show was her parent's doing. But the > hype changes it from a personal effort to a publicity stunt.. > I would refer you to Matthew Chapter 6 verse 5 which could equally well be > applied to any public bragging if you still haven't understood my meaning. > One thing my parents taught me was to act first then talk about it later, > but only if necessary. > Regards > Arild > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/passagemaking-under-power > > To unsubscribe send email to > passagemaking-under-power-request@lists.samurai.com with the word > UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else in the subject or body of the message. > > Passagemaking Under Power and PUP are trademarks of Water World > Productions. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 05:55:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Lorenzo Boelitz <lorenzo@backyards.biz> To: passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com Subject: [PUP] Jessicas Attchevement ? Message-ID: <209519.85559.qm@web81904.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Read Darwin Aberrant behavior is essential to the survival of a species. ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 15 Apr 2010 12:22:59 -0400 From: David Bock <docdoodles@hotmail.com> To: <passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com> Subject: [PUP] Response to Randal re our Post July 12, 2005 Message-ID: <SNT132-w418B4E2A0D42B9BE37550EDD0F0@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Salty Dawg started the wrong way around and crossed the Atlantic with Medbound 2007 led by Milt Baker with a total of 3 Nordhavns. We wintered 07/08 in Almerimar, Spain, cruised eastbound thru the Med summer of 2008 visiting Balaeric Island, touched on Sardinia, Sicily, Malta, mainland Italy, Montenegro, Croatia, rounded the Pelaponese of Greece, coasted the northern part of Crete and are now hopeless lost for our second winter in Turkey. This summer we will be the only powerboat among80 vessels on the Eastern Med Yacht Rally to Northern Cyprus, Syria, Lebabon, Israel, Egypt and back to Israel with a land tour to Jordan and then back to Turkey. Future plans are Malaysia and Thailand via the Red Sea and Gulf of Aden (pirate alley) either on our own bottom or as deck freight on a big ship for safety concerns. Ya--we are living the dream--every day Lowie, David and Danforth (the Golden Doodles--our anchor as we cruise the world) _________________________________________________________________ The New Busy is not the old busy. Search, chat and e-mail from your inbox. http://www.windowslive.com/campaign/thenewbusy?ocid=PID28326::T:WLMTAGL: ON:WL :en-US:WM_HMP:042010_3 ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ Passagemaking-Under-Power Mailing List End of Passagemaking-Under-Power Digest, Vol 65, Issue 6 ********************************************************