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Re: T&T: Request info about windlass hand held remote control

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Truelove39@aol.com
Tue, Feb 24, 2009 10:47 AM

Hi Scott,

I too always look for savings when it comes to boat gear, and  although this
solenoid is about half the price of a watertight,  continuous duty marine
unit, I could not justify it for the following  reasons:

It is an automotive solenoid - it is not watertight and is only  rated 100A
for 6 minutes with a 20% duty cycle - windlass duty is  always 100%. Also, the
6mm terminal studs are too small for anything larger than 1/0 wire  terminals.
The specs state that it is for permanent magnet motors, but many  windlass
motors are shunt-wound with brushes, and need larger contacts due to  inrush
current when starting. And the fact that it is only 1/3 the weight  of a marine
unit tells me something, too.

Regards,

John
"Seahorse"

It's just as easy to make your own. I used a nifty one-piece  reversing

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Hi Scott, I too always look for savings when it comes to boat gear, and although this solenoid is about half the price of a watertight, continuous duty marine unit, I could not justify it for the following reasons: It is an automotive solenoid - it is not watertight and is only rated 100A for 6 minutes with a 20% duty cycle - windlass duty is always 100%. Also, the 6mm terminal studs are too small for anything larger than 1/0 wire terminals. The specs state that it is for permanent magnet motors, but many windlass motors are shunt-wound with brushes, and need larger contacts due to inrush current when starting. And the fact that it is only 1/3 the weight of a marine unit tells me something, too. Regards, John "Seahorse" > It's just as easy to make your own. I used a nifty one-piece reversing solenoid I got from Burden Surplus:< http://www.surpluscenter.com/item.asp?UID=2009022313442984&item=11-3169-12&cat name= > **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc%3D668072%26hmpgID %3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62)
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Scott H.E. Welch
Tue, Feb 24, 2009 11:22 AM

I tooB always look for savings when it comes to boat gear, and although this
solenoid is about half the price ofB aB watertight, continuous dutyB marine
unit, I could not justify it for the following reasons:

The solenoid is installed belowdecks in a completely dry location.

ItB is an automotive solenoid - it is not watertight andB is only
ratedB 100A for 6 minutes with a 20% duty cycle -B windlass duty is always
100%.

True. However, my windlass is 24 volts and draws about 50 amps. Lifting my
entire 400 feet of chain only takes about 4 minutes. It's very unlikely this
will cause a problem.

Also, theB 6mmB terminal studs are too small for anything larger than 1/0
wire terminals.B

Correct. I run #2.

The specs state that it is forB permanent magnet motors, but many windlass
motors are shunt-wound with brushes, and need larger contacts due to inrush
current when starting.B

Also correct. The Ideal uses a reversing-field motor. Inrush current is
always a problem. It's possible this contactor might have problems, I'll see.
However, for me the big advantage is that this is a single unit, as opposed
to 4 individual solenoids, each with multiple exposed contacts.

Scott Welch
Product Manager, Open Text Collaboration Solutions Group
www.firstclass.com

"Things turn out best for people who make the best of the way things turn
out." - John Wooden

Truelove39@aol.com writes: >I tooB always look for savings when it comes to boat gear, and although this >solenoid is about half the price ofB aB watertight, continuous dutyB marine >unit, I could not justify it for the following reasons: The solenoid is installed belowdecks in a completely dry location. > >ItB is an automotive solenoid - it is not watertight andB is only >ratedB 100A for 6 minutes with a 20% duty cycle -B windlass duty is always >100%. True. However, my windlass is 24 volts and draws about 50 amps. Lifting my entire 400 feet of chain only takes about 4 minutes. It's very unlikely this will cause a problem. >Also, theB 6mmB terminal studs are too small for anything larger than 1/0 >wire terminals.B Correct. I run #2. >The specs state that it is forB permanent magnet motors, but many windlass >motors are shunt-wound with brushes, and need larger contacts due to inrush >current when starting.B Also correct. The Ideal uses a reversing-field motor. Inrush current is always a problem. It's possible this contactor might have problems, I'll see. However, for me the big advantage is that this is a single unit, as opposed to 4 individual solenoids, each with multiple exposed contacts. Scott Welch Product Manager, Open Text Collaboration Solutions Group www.firstclass.com "Things turn out best for people who make the best of the way things turn out." - John Wooden