Well, just to avoid talking-and-not-doing feeling... I made/making SmallPOS framework, Pharo\Seaside\GLORP\Magritte-based. Initially oriented on small businesses with not-standart business processes, it provides possibility for really fast prototyping...and, for example, connecting hardware (like label printers and barcode scanners) on client side. Now I want to see how opensource development model may work. So, I'll do my best to present it on ESUG conference...if I'll successed with visa this year. Sun, 27 Mar 2011 17:09:20 +0200 письмо от Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr>: > Thanks sean. > > We are always trying to improve ourselves and we accept and value criticism. > Now there are moments where I would like to see more doing than talking. > > Stef > > > Steven and Andrew, > > > > Thank you for taking the time to point out where things can be improved. > > > > I propose that all criticism - right, wrong, good, bad, whatever - be > > answered in the same way: "Thank you." > > > > I personally am grateful for the HUGE amount of work done by the ESUG, > > Squeak & Pharo teams. And, I'm sure it can be demoralizing to be one of the > > people putting in all that effort (probably for free) and hear criticism. > > > > That having been said, I cringe every time criticism is met with resistance, > > frustration, or defensiveness. Criticism is solid gold - all of it. It is a > > wake-up call to how our community is perceived from the outside. The truth > > doesn't matter! It's all about perception. I think it would be far more > > valuable to pull in as much criticism as possible than to explain it away > > point by point. Let's give critics water and sunlight to flourish on our > > mailing lists and smack us awake, rather than throw up their hands and move > > silently to a different language/community. > > > > Of course, after the "thank you", relevant info like "such and such has been > > fixed" or "an engineer would really help move things along here" would be > > great, resting on a foundation of acknowledgement and gratitude that someone > > took the time to reach out instead of disappearing or gossiping, providing a > > service to the community. > > > > Sean > > > > -- > > View this message in context: > http://forum.world.st/Smalltalk-hosting-tp3384077p3407992.html > > Sent from the ESUG mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Esug-list mailing list > > Esug-list@lists.esug.org > > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list@lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org

Excellent do you have a web presence? Stef On Mar 27, 2011, at 11:17 PM, Юрий Мироненко wrote: > Well, just to avoid talking-and-not-doing feeling... > > I made/making SmallPOS framework, Pharo\Seaside\GLORP\Magritte-based. Initially oriented on small businesses with not-standart business processes, it provides possibility for really fast prototyping...and, for example, connecting hardware (like label printers and barcode scanners) on client side. > > Now I want to see how opensource development model may work. So, I'll do my best to present it on ESUG conference...if I'll successed with visa this year. > > > Sun, 27 Mar 2011 17:09:20 +0200 письмо от Stéphane Ducasse <stephane.ducasse@inria.fr>: > >> Thanks sean. >> >> We are always trying to improve ourselves and we accept and value criticism. >> Now there are moments where I would like to see more doing than talking. >> >> Stef >> >>> Steven and Andrew, >>> >>> Thank you for taking the time to point out where things can be improved. >>> >>> I propose that all criticism - right, wrong, good, bad, whatever - be >>> answered in the same way: "Thank you." >>> >>> I personally am grateful for the HUGE amount of work done by the ESUG, >>> Squeak & Pharo teams. And, I'm sure it can be demoralizing to be one of the >>> people putting in all that effort (probably for free) and hear criticism. >>> >>> That having been said, I cringe every time criticism is met with resistance, >>> frustration, or defensiveness. Criticism is solid gold - all of it. It is a >>> wake-up call to how our community is perceived from the outside. The truth >>> doesn't matter! It's all about perception. I think it would be far more >>> valuable to pull in as much criticism as possible than to explain it away >>> point by point. Let's give critics water and sunlight to flourish on our >>> mailing lists and smack us awake, rather than throw up their hands and move >>> silently to a different language/community. >>> >>> Of course, after the "thank you", relevant info like "such and such has been >>> fixed" or "an engineer would really help move things along here" would be >>> great, resting on a foundation of acknowledgement and gratitude that someone >>> took the time to reach out instead of disappearing or gossiping, providing a >>> service to the community. >>> >>> Sean >>> >>> -- >>> View this message in context: >> http://forum.world.st/Smalltalk-hosting-tp3384077p3407992.html >>> Sent from the ESUG mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Esug-list mailing list >>> Esug-list@lists.esug.org >>> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Esug-list mailing list >> Esug-list@lists.esug.org >> http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org > _______________________________________________ > Esug-list mailing list > Esug-list@lists.esug.org > http://lists.esug.org/mailman/listinfo/esug-list_lists.esug.org