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baumgart@starrstuff.com
Sun, May 28, 2000 3:05 AM

Do any of you Great Lakes/East coast boaters use fender boards?  I was
planning on making some for our upcoming cruise.  For use during those
times when we are in a slip with pilings (we never see any pilings on the
West coast).

Today I bought some 2x6 boards.  How long would you cut them for a 40 foot
LOA boat?  I was thinking of 2, 6 foot long sections, or 4, 4 foot long
sections.  I don't think I can get 8 foot long sections into my lazerette.

How often do you use fender boards?  How do you deploy them?  I was
thinking of hanging them outboard of two of my regular fenders.

Are they worth the trouble it is going to be to store something that large
when our space is so limited?

-JimB
Jim Baumgart
Join the virtual Cruise 2000 at  http://www.indiscipline.org

Do any of you Great Lakes/East coast boaters use fender boards? I was planning on making some for our upcoming cruise. For use during those times when we are in a slip with pilings (we never see any pilings on the West coast). Today I bought some 2x6 boards. How long would you cut them for a 40 foot LOA boat? I was thinking of 2, 6 foot long sections, or 4, 4 foot long sections. I don't think I can get 8 foot long sections into my lazerette. How often do you use fender boards? How do you deploy them? I was thinking of hanging them outboard of two of my regular fenders. Are they worth the trouble it is going to be to store something that large when our space is so limited? -JimB Jim Baumgart Join the virtual Cruise 2000 at http://www.indiscipline.org
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rbryett@ibm.net
Sun, May 28, 2000 4:14 AM

"Do any of you Great Lakes/East coast boaters use fender boards? <snip> How
long would you cut them for a 40 foot LOA boat? I was thinking of 2, 6 foot
long sections, or 4, 4 foot long sections. <snip> How often do you use
fender boards?  How do you deploy them? I was thinking of hanging them
outboard of two of my regular fenders. Are they worth the trouble it is
going to be to store something that large when our space is so limited?"

Well I'm an East coast (of Australia) yachtsman, and I'd say that fender
boards are indispensable for mooring alongside pilings or roughly built
wharves, and damn useful for rafting up with other boats too.

I usually make them 1.25 - 1.5 metres long (say 4-5 feet) to use with two
fenders per board, but you can make them longer and use three fenders. I
normally use knot-free lengths of ordinary 4x2" construction timber well
treated with good oily preservative. You can use teak or something, but
fender boards have a hard life so I don't think the extra expense is worth
it. Round off the ends, and make sure there are no sharp edges or metal
fittings to scratch your topsides (or hands).

Obviously hang the boards outside your fenders. There are commercially
produced rubber buffers made for fender boards which are intended to be
permanently attached to the inside of the board in place of fenders. This
simplifies things a bit because you don't have to adjust the board and the
fenders separately, and the bumpers can't "roll off" the board as fenders
can if they're not tied in place, but obviously it adds to the expense and
makes the boards bulkier.

Make sure your pennants are long enough to allow you to hang the boards
almost to the waterline, by the way.

Regards, Robert Bryett
Sydney, Australia.
mailto:rbryett@ibm.net

"Do any of you Great Lakes/East coast boaters use fender boards? <snip> How long would you cut them for a 40 foot LOA boat? I was thinking of 2, 6 foot long sections, or 4, 4 foot long sections. <snip> How often do you use fender boards? How do you deploy them? I was thinking of hanging them outboard of two of my regular fenders. Are they worth the trouble it is going to be to store something that large when our space is so limited?" Well I'm an East coast (of Australia) yachtsman, and I'd say that fender boards are indispensable for mooring alongside pilings or roughly built wharves, and damn useful for rafting up with other boats too. I usually make them 1.25 - 1.5 metres long (say 4-5 feet) to use with two fenders per board, but you can make them longer and use three fenders. I normally use knot-free lengths of ordinary 4x2" construction timber well treated with good oily preservative. You can use teak or something, but fender boards have a hard life so I don't think the extra expense is worth it. Round off the ends, and make sure there are no sharp edges or metal fittings to scratch your topsides (or hands). Obviously hang the boards outside your fenders. There are commercially produced rubber buffers made for fender boards which are intended to be permanently attached to the inside of the board in place of fenders. This simplifies things a bit because you don't have to adjust the board and the fenders separately, and the bumpers can't "roll off" the board as fenders can if they're not tied in place, but obviously it adds to the expense and makes the boards bulkier. Make sure your pennants are long enough to allow you to hang the boards almost to the waterline, by the way. Regards, Robert Bryett Sydney, Australia. mailto:rbryett@ibm.net
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scaramouche@tvo.org
Sun, May 28, 2000 2:24 PM

How often do you use fender boards?  How do you deploy them?  I was
thinking of hanging them outboard of two of my regular fenders.

We use them actually only in locks where the walls are usually rough
and non uniform.

baumgart@starrstuff.com writes: >How often do you use fender boards? How do you deploy them? I was >thinking of hanging them outboard of two of my regular fenders. We use them actually only in locks where the walls are usually rough and non uniform.
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fburrows@csi.com
Sun, May 28, 2000 5:10 PM

My experience is that they are invaluable for the New York Canals, the St.
Lawrence Seaway and the Rideau. We used two 2 x 6 that were about 6 feet
long. Bought a long drill bit and drilled through each end and threaded a
3/8 line through the hole with a knot in the bottom. Two long fenders
between each board and the hull. I cannot imagine doing that trip without
fender boards. The sides of the lock walls can be very rough in the older
locks and there can be channels that your fenders will fit into, leaving
your boat with no protection.

In the Chesapeake and from the Chesapeake to the Bahamas there was no need
for them.  We also used big circular balloon type fenders from the
Chesapeake to Florida and they work great for floating docks but since
there are not many floating docks in the Chesapeake and most marinas are
well protected we leave the big balloon fenders home except for traveling.

The canals are no big deal with the right stuff. One more thought, locking
through is boring after the first couple and because everybody occasionally
quits paying attention, things happen. Every crew member should carry work
a sharp knife and be instructed that when you tell them to cut the line,
then cut the line and don't worry what they cost or who owns the line.  A
Spyderco Rescue type knife is ideal for this kind of stuff since it does
not have a point and nobody is going to get stabbed.

Work gloves are also a must.

Frank Burrows  79' 43' Viking MY  Piney Narrows Marina  Chesapeake Bay

My experience is that they are invaluable for the New York Canals, the St. Lawrence Seaway and the Rideau. We used two 2 x 6 that were about 6 feet long. Bought a long drill bit and drilled through each end and threaded a 3/8 line through the hole with a knot in the bottom. Two long fenders between each board and the hull. I cannot imagine doing that trip without fender boards. The sides of the lock walls can be very rough in the older locks and there can be channels that your fenders will fit into, leaving your boat with no protection. In the Chesapeake and from the Chesapeake to the Bahamas there was no need for them. We also used big circular balloon type fenders from the Chesapeake to Florida and they work great for floating docks but since there are not many floating docks in the Chesapeake and most marinas are well protected we leave the big balloon fenders home except for traveling. The canals are no big deal with the right stuff. One more thought, locking through is boring after the first couple and because everybody occasionally quits paying attention, things happen. Every crew member should carry work a sharp knife and be instructed that when you tell them to cut the line, then cut the line and don't worry what they cost or who owns the line. A Spyderco Rescue type knife is ideal for this kind of stuff since it does not have a point and nobody is going to get stabbed. Work gloves are also a must. Frank Burrows 79' 43' Viking MY Piney Narrows Marina Chesapeake Bay
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abinning@ovc.uoguelph.ca
Sun, May 28, 2000 8:19 PM

Jim Baumgart wrote:

Do any of you Great Lakes/East coast boaters use fender boards?  I was
planning on making some for our upcoming cruise.  For use during those
times when we are in a slip with pilings (we never see any pilings on the

Jim

I carry two fender boards on my boat, one 2x6x4' and one 2x10x4' but
have used them very little.  A couple of places in the Bahamas where
tied up against rough pilings, one or twice in Georgia and in Atlantic
Highlands NJ where high tidal range and again against pilings.

For locking in the Trent-Severn, Illinois, Mississippi and the Tenn-Tom
just your regular fenders are fine but on the Erie Canal due to the
rough dirty walls in some locks the best thing is to place your fenders
inside a couple of feed bags (horse feed or grain bags) and close the
opening with duct tape around the fender line.  When finished locking
remove and discard bags and fenders are still clean and unscarred.

Cheers

Al Binnington
GB36 FALKOR

Jim Baumgart wrote: > > Do any of you Great Lakes/East coast boaters use fender boards? I was > planning on making some for our upcoming cruise. For use during those > times when we are in a slip with pilings (we never see any pilings on the > Jim I carry two fender boards on my boat, one 2x6x4' and one 2x10x4' but have used them very little. A couple of places in the Bahamas where tied up against rough pilings, one or twice in Georgia and in Atlantic Highlands NJ where high tidal range and again against pilings. For locking in the Trent-Severn, Illinois, Mississippi and the Tenn-Tom just your regular fenders are fine but on the Erie Canal due to the rough dirty walls in some locks the best thing is to place your fenders inside a couple of feed bags (horse feed or grain bags) and close the opening with duct tape around the fender line. When finished locking remove and discard bags and fenders are still clean and unscarred. Cheers Al Binnington GB36 FALKOR
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dmanning@interlog.com
Mon, May 29, 2000 8:45 AM

I'd use them. Here in Europe I find there are beaucoup rough piers and these
bizarre quai sides with protruding metal bits. I tihnk it's because a lot of
the docks are set up for workboats and such.

If you don't have some planking you can say  goodbye to your rubrails....

Daryl.


Daryl Manning
dmanning@interlog.com
ICQ: 43228997
Le Neilali
4, Port des Champs-Elyses
75008, Paris, France
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Baumgart" baumgart@starrstuff.com
To: trawler-world-list@samurai.com
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2000 5:05 AM
Subject: TWL: fender boards?

Do any of you Great Lakes/East coast boaters use fender boards?  I was
planning on making some for our upcoming cruise.  For use during those
times when we are in a slip with pilings (we never see any pilings on the
West coast).

Today I bought some 2x6 boards.  How long would you cut them for a 40 foot
LOA boat?  I was thinking of 2, 6 foot long sections, or 4, 4 foot long
sections.  I don't think I can get 8 foot long sections into my lazerette.

How often do you use fender boards?  How do you deploy them?  I was
thinking of hanging them outboard of two of my regular fenders.

Are they worth the trouble it is going to be to store something that large
when our space is so limited?

-JimB
Jim Baumgart
Join the virtual Cruise 2000 at  http://www.indiscipline.org

I'd use them. Here in Europe I find there are beaucoup rough piers and these bizarre quai sides with protruding metal bits. I tihnk it's because a lot of the docks are set up for workboats and such. If you don't have some planking you can say goodbye to your rubrails.... Daryl. ______________________ Daryl Manning dmanning@interlog.com ICQ: 43228997 Le Neilali 4, Port des Champs-Elyses 75008, Paris, France ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Baumgart" <baumgart@starrstuff.com> To: <trawler-world-list@samurai.com> Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2000 5:05 AM Subject: TWL: fender boards? > Do any of you Great Lakes/East coast boaters use fender boards? I was > planning on making some for our upcoming cruise. For use during those > times when we are in a slip with pilings (we never see any pilings on the > West coast). > > Today I bought some 2x6 boards. How long would you cut them for a 40 foot > LOA boat? I was thinking of 2, 6 foot long sections, or 4, 4 foot long > sections. I don't think I can get 8 foot long sections into my lazerette. > > How often do you use fender boards? How do you deploy them? I was > thinking of hanging them outboard of two of my regular fenders. > > Are they worth the trouble it is going to be to store something that large > when our space is so limited? > > -JimB > Jim Baumgart > Join the virtual Cruise 2000 at http://www.indiscipline.org > >
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cphilljr@bellsouth.net
Wed, May 31, 2000 3:16 AM

I use fender boards while fueling at a local marina in Jacksonville.  They have
12'' dia.pilings about 6' apart, which makes the use of fenders difficult.  My
boards are 2"x6"x 48".  I use fenders between the boat and the board.  I have
some of the white rubber cushions for fender boards which I will set up and do
away with the seperate fenders.  For rough lock walls, I used 2"x6"x 4' with
tubes of Ensolite insulation tie rapped to them.  The foam insulation side was
next to the boat.  Cheap and easy to store.
Carroll & Emily
MV/Endurance '79Albin'43
Jacksonville, FL
Allen Binnington wrote:

Jim Baumgart wrote:

Do any of you Great Lakes/East coast boaters use fender boards?  I was
planning on making some for our upcoming cruise.  For use during those
times when we are in a slip with pilings (we never see any pilings on the

Jim

I carry two fender boards on my boat, one 2x6x4' and one 2x10x4' but
have used them very little.  A couple of places in the Bahamas where
tied up against rough pilings, one or twice in Georgia and in Atlantic
Highlands NJ where high tidal range and again against pilings.

For locking in the Trent-Severn, Illinois, Mississippi and the Tenn-Tom
just your regular fenders are fine but on the Erie Canal due to the
rough dirty walls in some locks the best thing is to place your fenders
inside a couple of feed bags (horse feed or grain bags) and close the
opening with duct tape around the fender line.  When finished locking
remove and discard bags and fenders are still clean and unscarred.

Cheers

Al Binnington
GB36 FALKOR

I use fender boards while fueling at a local marina in Jacksonville. They have 12'' dia.pilings about 6' apart, which makes the use of fenders difficult. My boards are 2"x6"x 48". I use fenders between the boat and the board. I have some of the white rubber cushions for fender boards which I will set up and do away with the seperate fenders. For rough lock walls, I used 2"x6"x 4' with tubes of Ensolite insulation tie rapped to them. The foam insulation side was next to the boat. Cheap and easy to store. Carroll & Emily MV/Endurance '79Albin'43 Jacksonville, FL Allen Binnington wrote: > Jim Baumgart wrote: > > > > Do any of you Great Lakes/East coast boaters use fender boards? I was > > planning on making some for our upcoming cruise. For use during those > > times when we are in a slip with pilings (we never see any pilings on the > > > Jim > > I carry two fender boards on my boat, one 2x6x4' and one 2x10x4' but > have used them very little. A couple of places in the Bahamas where > tied up against rough pilings, one or twice in Georgia and in Atlantic > Highlands NJ where high tidal range and again against pilings. > > For locking in the Trent-Severn, Illinois, Mississippi and the Tenn-Tom > just your regular fenders are fine but on the Erie Canal due to the > rough dirty walls in some locks the best thing is to place your fenders > inside a couple of feed bags (horse feed or grain bags) and close the > opening with duct tape around the fender line. When finished locking > remove and discard bags and fenders are still clean and unscarred. > > Cheers > > Al Binnington > GB36 FALKOR