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johncroos@aol.com
Tue, Apr 23, 2013 8:04 PM
The ebay message re this law is probably legit. In any case
the congress IS considering such a law. In essence it forces
all internet sellers to collect the sales tax due in the buyers state. If you live in a state with a law requiring that sales tax be paid on all out of state purchases (internet or not), often called a "use" tax, as the buyer you are required to pay this tax. The taxes already are on the books, they are often not enforced.
You can learn all about this with a Google search which will reveal all sorts of opinions. Here is one that is not too
bad:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway/2013/04/23/five-things-you-should-know-about-the-long-overdue-online-sales-tax-bill/
If you already comply with the law and do a lot of internet purchases; passage will relieve you of a pain in the ass accounting job at tax time. If your state has no such tax or if you avoid paying it, though your state requires it, passage will cost you some sale taxes you would have otherwise escaped.
One nasty consequence is that the software to pull this off is non-trivial since local sales taxes in many states vary by county, school district, local bond issues and so on. How that is handled should be amusing.
-73 john k6iql
The ebay message re this law is probably legit. In any case
the congress IS considering such a law. In essence it forces
all internet sellers to collect the sales tax due in the buyers state. If you live in a state with a law requiring that sales tax be paid on all out of state purchases (internet or not), often called a "use" tax, as the buyer you are required to pay this tax. The taxes already are on the books, they are often not enforced.
You can learn all about this with a Google search which will reveal all sorts of opinions. Here is one that is not too
bad:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway/2013/04/23/five-things-you-should-know-about-the-long-overdue-online-sales-tax-bill/
If you already comply with the law and do a lot of internet purchases; passage will relieve you of a pain in the ass accounting job at tax time. If your state has no such tax or if you avoid paying it, though your state requires it, passage will cost you some sale taxes you would have otherwise escaped.
One nasty consequence is that the software to pull this off is non-trivial since local sales taxes in many states vary by county, school district, local bond issues and so on. How that is handled should be amusing.
-73 john k6iql
TK
Tom Knox
Tue, Apr 23, 2013 10:51 PM
The eBay emails appear real since it can also be accessed on my actual eBay site. I cannot imagine what a pain it would be to sell 20 items on eBay each to a buyer in a different state and be required to file the paperwork to pay taxes on each of those sales. This is a formula for disaster.
Thomas Knox
To: time-nuts@febo.com
From: johncroos@aol.com
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:04:58 -0400
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] S743 Marketplace Fariness Act
The ebay message re this law is probably legit. In any case
the congress IS considering such a law. In essence it forces
all internet sellers to collect the sales tax due in the buyers state. If you live in a state with a law requiring that sales tax be paid on all out of state purchases (internet or not), often called a "use" tax, as the buyer you are required to pay this tax. The taxes already are on the books, they are often not enforced.
You can learn all about this with a Google search which will reveal all sorts of opinions. Here is one that is not too
bad:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway/2013/04/23/five-things-you-should-know-about-the-long-overdue-online-sales-tax-bill/
If you already comply with the law and do a lot of internet purchases; passage will relieve you of a pain in the ass accounting job at tax time. If your state has no such tax or if you avoid paying it, though your state requires it, passage will cost you some sale taxes you would have otherwise escaped.
One nasty consequence is that the software to pull this off is non-trivial since local sales taxes in many states vary by county, school district, local bond issues and so on. How that is handled should be amusing.
-73 john k6iql
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The eBay emails appear real since it can also be accessed on my actual eBay site. I cannot imagine what a pain it would be to sell 20 items on eBay each to a buyer in a different state and be required to file the paperwork to pay taxes on each of those sales. This is a formula for disaster.
Thomas Knox
> To: time-nuts@febo.com
> From: johncroos@aol.com
> Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:04:58 -0400
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] S743 Marketplace Fariness Act
>
> The ebay message re this law is probably legit. In any case
> the congress IS considering such a law. In essence it forces
> all internet sellers to collect the sales tax due in the buyers state. If you live in a state with a law requiring that sales tax be paid on all out of state purchases (internet or not), often called a "use" tax, as the buyer you are required to pay this tax. The taxes already are on the books, they are often not enforced.
>
> You can learn all about this with a Google search which will reveal all sorts of opinions. Here is one that is not too
> bad:
>
> http://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway/2013/04/23/five-things-you-should-know-about-the-long-overdue-online-sales-tax-bill/
>
> If you already comply with the law and do a lot of internet purchases; passage will relieve you of a pain in the ass accounting job at tax time. If your state has no such tax or if you avoid paying it, though your state requires it, passage will cost you some sale taxes you would have otherwise escaped.
>
> One nasty consequence is that the software to pull this off is non-trivial since local sales taxes in many states vary by county, school district, local bond issues and so on. How that is handled should be amusing.
>
> -73 john k6iql
>
>
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Peter Gottlieb
Tue, Apr 23, 2013 11:58 PM
I was involved in a business which was expecting that kind of thing. There are
several third party firms already out there standing at the ready with such tax
tables by address. It won't be a big deal to implement, should it come to that.
I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with the tax, just saying that as a web systems
implementer I wasn't worried.
Peter
On 4/23/2013 4:04 PM, johncroos@aol.com wrote:
The ebay message re this law is probably legit. In any case
the congress IS considering such a law. In essence it forces
all internet sellers to collect the sales tax due in the buyers state. If you live in a state with a law requiring that sales tax be paid on all out of state purchases (internet or not), often called a "use" tax, as the buyer you are required to pay this tax. The taxes already are on the books, they are often not enforced.
You can learn all about this with a Google search which will reveal all sorts of opinions. Here is one that is not too
bad:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway/2013/04/23/five-things-you-should-know-about-the-long-overdue-online-sales-tax-bill/
If you already comply with the law and do a lot of internet purchases; passage will relieve you of a pain in the ass accounting job at tax time. If your state has no such tax or if you avoid paying it, though your state requires it, passage will cost you some sale taxes you would have otherwise escaped.
One nasty consequence is that the software to pull this off is non-trivial since local sales taxes in many states vary by county, school district, local bond issues and so on. How that is handled should be amusing.
-73 john k6iql
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I was involved in a business which was expecting that kind of thing. There are
several third party firms already out there standing at the ready with such tax
tables by address. It won't be a big deal to implement, should it come to that.
I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with the tax, just saying that as a web systems
implementer I wasn't worried.
Peter
On 4/23/2013 4:04 PM, johncroos@aol.com wrote:
> The ebay message re this law is probably legit. In any case
> the congress IS considering such a law. In essence it forces
> all internet sellers to collect the sales tax due in the buyers state. If you live in a state with a law requiring that sales tax be paid on all out of state purchases (internet or not), often called a "use" tax, as the buyer you are required to pay this tax. The taxes already are on the books, they are often not enforced.
>
> You can learn all about this with a Google search which will reveal all sorts of opinions. Here is one that is not too
> bad:
>
> http://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway/2013/04/23/five-things-you-should-know-about-the-long-overdue-online-sales-tax-bill/
>
> If you already comply with the law and do a lot of internet purchases; passage will relieve you of a pain in the ass accounting job at tax time. If your state has no such tax or if you avoid paying it, though your state requires it, passage will cost you some sale taxes you would have otherwise escaped.
>
> One nasty consequence is that the software to pull this off is non-trivial since local sales taxes in many states vary by county, school district, local bond issues and so on. How that is handled should be amusing.
>
> -73 john k6iql
>
>
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Wed, Apr 24, 2013 1:49 AM
There are limitations for low volume sellers. Ebay could easily write a program to compute sales tax. My problem with the seller collecting tax is do they really send it off to the tax authority.
Technically, there is no sales tax on used items, at least in most states. Certain high value items do get taxed when bought used, like cars and planes.
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From: Tom Knox actast@hotmail.com
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Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:51:33
To: Time-Nutstime-nuts@febo.com
Reply-To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] S743 Marketplace Fariness Act
The eBay emails appear real since it can also be accessed on my actual eBay site. I cannot imagine what a pain it would be to sell 20 items on eBay each to a buyer in a different state and be required to file the paperwork to pay taxes on each of those sales. This is a formula for disaster.
Thomas Knox
To: time-nuts@febo.com
From: johncroos@aol.com
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:04:58 -0400
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] S743 Marketplace Fariness Act
The ebay message re this law is probably legit. In any case
the congress IS considering such a law. In essence it forces
all internet sellers to collect the sales tax due in the buyers state. If you live in a state with a law requiring that sales tax be paid on all out of state purchases (internet or not), often called a "use" tax, as the buyer you are required to pay this tax. The taxes already are on the books, they are often not enforced.
You can learn all about this with a Google search which will reveal all sorts of opinions. Here is one that is not too
bad:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway/2013/04/23/five-things-you-should-know-about-the-long-overdue-online-sales-tax-bill/
If you already comply with the law and do a lot of internet purchases; passage will relieve you of a pain in the ass accounting job at tax time. If your state has no such tax or if you avoid paying it, though your state requires it, passage will cost you some sale taxes you would have otherwise escaped.
One nasty consequence is that the software to pull this off is non-trivial since local sales taxes in many states vary by county, school district, local bond issues and so on. How that is handled should be amusing.
-73 john k6iql
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There are limitations for low volume sellers. Ebay could easily write a program to compute sales tax. My problem with the seller collecting tax is do they really send it off to the tax authority.
Technically, there is no sales tax on used items, at least in most states. Certain high value items do get taxed when bought used, like cars and planes.
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Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:51:33
To: Time-Nuts<time-nuts@febo.com>
Reply-To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
<time-nuts@febo.com>
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] S743 Marketplace Fariness Act
The eBay emails appear real since it can also be accessed on my actual eBay site. I cannot imagine what a pain it would be to sell 20 items on eBay each to a buyer in a different state and be required to file the paperwork to pay taxes on each of those sales. This is a formula for disaster.
Thomas Knox
> To: time-nuts@febo.com
> From: johncroos@aol.com
> Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:04:58 -0400
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] S743 Marketplace Fariness Act
>
> The ebay message re this law is probably legit. In any case
> the congress IS considering such a law. In essence it forces
> all internet sellers to collect the sales tax due in the buyers state. If you live in a state with a law requiring that sales tax be paid on all out of state purchases (internet or not), often called a "use" tax, as the buyer you are required to pay this tax. The taxes already are on the books, they are often not enforced.
>
> You can learn all about this with a Google search which will reveal all sorts of opinions. Here is one that is not too
> bad:
>
> http://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway/2013/04/23/five-things-you-should-know-about-the-long-overdue-online-sales-tax-bill/
>
> If you already comply with the law and do a lot of internet purchases; passage will relieve you of a pain in the ass accounting job at tax time. If your state has no such tax or if you avoid paying it, though your state requires it, passage will cost you some sale taxes you would have otherwise escaped.
>
> One nasty consequence is that the software to pull this off is non-trivial since local sales taxes in many states vary by county, school district, local bond issues and so on. How that is handled should be amusing.
>
> -73 john k6iql
>
>
>
>
>
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Peter Gottlieb
Wed, Apr 24, 2013 3:46 AM
What I read is that it is for merchants who exceed a million dollars a year.
So, if it is determined it is each seller that is responsible, it would only
apply to those doing greater than a million in sales (not many). If however it
is determined that it is ebay who is the "merchant," then they would have to
handle the tax collection and payment and it would simply be added to the final
auction and maybe plus shipping amount (depending on the state and what is
taxable). This is the most likely scenario. It is more complex than just what
tax rate to use as each state taxes different things. For example, some states
do not tax clothing, others do, and some others only if the item exceeds some
cost. As I mentioned in another message there are third party services which
keep track of all this already. For a site like ebay it is complex but not
daunting task to set that up.
I will spend my time worrying about how I am building my combo Rb and
Thunderbolt box. I have a TADD-1 amp in there, pulse stretchers to drive front
panel 1 PPS live indicators, a serial to IP adapter to give the box network
connectivity (mainly for the Thunderbolt but switchable to the FE-5680A). I
have a fan setup in an isolated section (it is built into a 2U rack box) for the
TB so LH can help with temperature, but I'm not sure if I should use a computer
to discipline the Rb or just set it close manually every so often. And which
should I feed into the TADD dist amp? The Rb? Initially I'm just putting a
switch in so I can select. I'd love to hear comments on this. I can post
photos of where I am at in the construction if anyone is interested.
Peter
On 4/23/2013 6:51 PM, Tom Knox wrote:
The eBay emails appear real since it can also be accessed on my actual eBay site. I cannot imagine what a pain it would be to sell 20 items on eBay each to a buyer in a different state and be required to file the paperwork to pay taxes on each of those sales. This is a formula for disaster.
Thomas Knox
To: time-nuts@febo.com
From: johncroos@aol.com
Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:04:58 -0400
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] S743 Marketplace Fariness Act
The ebay message re this law is probably legit. In any case
the congress IS considering such a law. In essence it forces
all internet sellers to collect the sales tax due in the buyers state. If you live in a state with a law requiring that sales tax be paid on all out of state purchases (internet or not), often called a "use" tax, as the buyer you are required to pay this tax. The taxes already are on the books, they are often not enforced.
You can learn all about this with a Google search which will reveal all sorts of opinions. Here is one that is not too
bad:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway/2013/04/23/five-things-you-should-know-about-the-long-overdue-online-sales-tax-bill/
If you already comply with the law and do a lot of internet purchases; passage will relieve you of a pain in the ass accounting job at tax time. If your state has no such tax or if you avoid paying it, though your state requires it, passage will cost you some sale taxes you would have otherwise escaped.
One nasty consequence is that the software to pull this off is non-trivial since local sales taxes in many states vary by county, school district, local bond issues and so on. How that is handled should be amusing.
-73 john k6iql
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What I read is that it is for merchants who exceed a million dollars a year.
So, if it is determined it is each seller that is responsible, it would only
apply to those doing greater than a million in sales (not many). If however it
is determined that it is ebay who is the "merchant," then they would have to
handle the tax collection and payment and it would simply be added to the final
auction and maybe plus shipping amount (depending on the state and what is
taxable). This is the most likely scenario. It is more complex than just what
tax rate to use as each state taxes different things. For example, some states
do not tax clothing, others do, and some others only if the item exceeds some
cost. As I mentioned in another message there are third party services which
keep track of all this already. For a site like ebay it is complex but not
daunting task to set that up.
I will spend my time worrying about how I am building my combo Rb and
Thunderbolt box. I have a TADD-1 amp in there, pulse stretchers to drive front
panel 1 PPS live indicators, a serial to IP adapter to give the box network
connectivity (mainly for the Thunderbolt but switchable to the FE-5680A). I
have a fan setup in an isolated section (it is built into a 2U rack box) for the
TB so LH can help with temperature, but I'm not sure if I should use a computer
to discipline the Rb or just set it close manually every so often. And which
should I feed into the TADD dist amp? The Rb? Initially I'm just putting a
switch in so I can select. I'd love to hear comments on this. I can post
photos of where I am at in the construction if anyone is interested.
Peter
On 4/23/2013 6:51 PM, Tom Knox wrote:
> The eBay emails appear real since it can also be accessed on my actual eBay site. I cannot imagine what a pain it would be to sell 20 items on eBay each to a buyer in a different state and be required to file the paperwork to pay taxes on each of those sales. This is a formula for disaster.
>
> Thomas Knox
>
>
>
>> To: time-nuts@febo.com
>> From: johncroos@aol.com
>> Date: Tue, 23 Apr 2013 16:04:58 -0400
>> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] S743 Marketplace Fariness Act
>>
>> The ebay message re this law is probably legit. In any case
>> the congress IS considering such a law. In essence it forces
>> all internet sellers to collect the sales tax due in the buyers state. If you live in a state with a law requiring that sales tax be paid on all out of state purchases (internet or not), often called a "use" tax, as the buyer you are required to pay this tax. The taxes already are on the books, they are often not enforced.
>>
>> You can learn all about this with a Google search which will reveal all sorts of opinions. Here is one that is not too
>> bad:
>>
>> http://www.forbes.com/sites/beltway/2013/04/23/five-things-you-should-know-about-the-long-overdue-online-sales-tax-bill/
>>
>> If you already comply with the law and do a lot of internet purchases; passage will relieve you of a pain in the ass accounting job at tax time. If your state has no such tax or if you avoid paying it, though your state requires it, passage will cost you some sale taxes you would have otherwise escaped.
>>
>> One nasty consequence is that the software to pull this off is non-trivial since local sales taxes in many states vary by county, school district, local bond issues and so on. How that is handled should be amusing.
>>
>> -73 john k6iql
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Chris Albertson
Wed, Apr 24, 2013 4:38 AM
The eBay emails appear real since it can also be accessed on my actual
eBay site. I cannot imagine what a pain it would be to sell 20 items on
eBay each to a buyer in a different state and be required to file the
paperwork to pay taxes on each of those sales. This is a formula for
disaster.
You as a selling would NOT have to worry Pay Pal could hand the taxes for
you. Sellers would not have to do much.
Chris Albertson
Redondo Beach, California
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Tom Knox <actast@hotmail.com> wrote:
> The eBay emails appear real since it can also be accessed on my actual
> eBay site. I cannot imagine what a pain it would be to sell 20 items on
> eBay each to a buyer in a different state and be required to file the
> paperwork to pay taxes on each of those sales. This is a formula for
> disaster.
You as a selling would NOT have to worry Pay Pal could hand the taxes for
you. Sellers would not have to do much.
Chris Albertson
Redondo Beach, California
D
DaveH
Wed, Apr 24, 2013 7:04 AM
And the funny thing is that there is already legislation in place to deal
with this.
If an online vendor has a corporate office, a warehouse or a brick and
mortar retail store in State XX (that has a sales tax), AND if an online
customer places an order to be shipped to an address in State XX, the sales
tax for State XX has to be charged.
I live in WA State and buy online from Amazon (corporate headquarters as
well as warehouse) and I get charged the WA State sales tax. I buy online
from Fry's (just a brick and mortar store) and get charged sales tax. Parts
Express (great company) - no presence in WA State so no sales tax.
If I walked into Parts Express's corporate headquarters in Ohio and
purchased some stuff, I could show my WA State drivers license and be exempt
from the Ohio sales tax. Why is this any different from an online purchase?
Starve the beast -- it is doing nothing good for us.
The eBay emails appear real since it can also be accessed
eBay site. I cannot imagine what a pain it would be to sell
eBay each to a buyer in a different state and be required
paperwork to pay taxes on each of those sales. This is a formula for
disaster.
And the funny thing is that there is already legislation in place to deal
with this.
If an online vendor has a corporate office, a warehouse or a brick and
mortar retail store in State XX (that has a sales tax), AND if an online
customer places an order to be shipped to an address in State XX, the sales
tax for State XX has to be charged.
I live in WA State and buy online from Amazon (corporate headquarters as
well as warehouse) and I get charged the WA State sales tax. I buy online
from Fry's (just a brick and mortar store) and get charged sales tax. Parts
Express (great company) - no presence in WA State so no sales tax.
If I walked into Parts Express's corporate headquarters in Ohio and
purchased some stuff, I could show my WA State drivers license and be exempt
from the Ohio sales tax. Why is this any different from an online purchase?
Starve the beast -- it is doing nothing good for us.
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> Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 21:38
> To: Discussion of precise time and frequency measurement
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] S743 Marketplace Fariness Act
>
> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Tom Knox <actast@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The eBay emails appear real since it can also be accessed
> on my actual
> > eBay site. I cannot imagine what a pain it would be to sell
> 20 items on
> > eBay each to a buyer in a different state and be required
> to file the
> > paperwork to pay taxes on each of those sales. This is a formula for
> > disaster.
>
>
> You as a selling would NOT have to worry Pay Pal could hand
> the taxes for
> you. Sellers would not have to do much.
>
> Chris Albertson
> Redondo Beach, California
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J. Forster
Wed, Apr 24, 2013 11:39 AM
Peter,
I believe you are correct about the $1M per year trip point, but would
remind you that this is a very slippery slope.
When the Income Tax was originally enacted, very, very few were impacted.
That is no longer so.
The Alternative Minimum Tax was enacted to hit those who have saved and
invested already taxed once money, and hit them again. Yet over the years
the AMT has hit more and more in the middle class, so Congress has had to
enact annual 'fixes'.
The Capital Gains tax is on assets that have increased in value, but there
is no provision to index the CG taxes for inflation. So, the fed inflated
the currency, and taxes virtual growth.
This is fundamentally not about 'fairness'. It is all about government at
all levels wanting more and more money, ultimately to buy votes, by
playing Santa Claus with other peoples' money.
The 'fairness' argument is all about the politics of envy and getting
re-elected.
YMMV,
-John
==================
What I read is that it is for merchants who exceed a million dollars a
year.
So, if it is determined it is each seller that is responsible, it would
only
apply to those doing greater than a million in sales (not many). If
however it
is determined that it is ebay who is the "merchant," then they would have
to
handle the tax collection and payment and it would simply be added to the
final
auction and maybe plus shipping amount (depending on the state and what is
taxable). This is the most likely scenario. It is more complex than just
what
tax rate to use as each state taxes different things. For example, some
states
do not tax clothing, others do, and some others only if the item exceeds
some
cost. As I mentioned in another message there are third party services
which
keep track of all this already. For a site like ebay it is complex but
not
daunting task to set that up.
Peter,
I believe you are correct about the $1M per year trip point, but would
remind you that this is a very slippery slope.
When the Income Tax was originally enacted, very, very few were impacted.
That is no longer so.
The Alternative Minimum Tax was enacted to hit those who have saved and
invested already taxed once money, and hit them again. Yet over the years
the AMT has hit more and more in the middle class, so Congress has had to
enact annual 'fixes'.
The Capital Gains tax is on assets that have increased in value, but there
is no provision to index the CG taxes for inflation. So, the fed inflated
the currency, and taxes virtual growth.
This is fundamentally not about 'fairness'. It is all about government at
all levels wanting more and more money, ultimately to buy votes, by
playing Santa Claus with other peoples' money.
The 'fairness' argument is all about the politics of envy and getting
re-elected.
YMMV,
-John
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> What I read is that it is for merchants who exceed a million dollars a
> year.
> So, if it is determined it is each seller that is responsible, it would
> only
> apply to those doing greater than a million in sales (not many). If
> however it
> is determined that it is ebay who is the "merchant," then they would have
> to
> handle the tax collection and payment and it would simply be added to the
> final
> auction and maybe plus shipping amount (depending on the state and what is
> taxable). This is the most likely scenario. It is more complex than just
> what
> tax rate to use as each state taxes different things. For example, some
> states
> do not tax clothing, others do, and some others only if the item exceeds
> some
> cost. As I mentioned in another message there are third party services
> which
> keep track of all this already. For a site like ebay it is complex but
> not
> daunting task to set that up.
[snip]
RD
Robert Darlington
Wed, Apr 24, 2013 2:53 PM
If I walked into Parts Express's corporate headquarters in Ohio and
purchased some stuff, I could show my WA State drivers license and be
exempt
from the Ohio sales tax. Why is this any different from an online purchase?
Actually, that's not true at all. Ordering across state lines and picking
up will trigger them having to pay sales tax (and then charging you) since
the sale happened in Ohio as well as if you just cross into Ohio and
initiate the transaction there.
And again, this thread has no business being on this list so please make it
go away guys. The only reason I'm saying anything is to encourage people
to just stop!
-Bob
On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 1:04 AM, DaveH <info@blackmountainforge.com> wrote:
>
> If I walked into Parts Express's corporate headquarters in Ohio and
> purchased some stuff, I could show my WA State drivers license and be
> exempt
> from the Ohio sales tax. Why is this any different from an online purchase?
>
>
Actually, that's not true at all. Ordering across state lines and picking
up will trigger them having to pay sales tax (and then charging you) since
the sale happened in Ohio as well as if you just cross into Ohio and
initiate the transaction there.
And again, this thread has no business being on this list so please make it
go away guys. The only reason I'm saying anything is to encourage people
to just stop!
-Bob
MS
Mike S
Wed, Apr 24, 2013 5:46 PM
Can we admit that this is completely off-topic for this list, and move
on to appropriate topics?
Can we admit that this is completely off-topic for this list, and move
on to appropriate topics?
