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rigging an aft anchor on our 2005 43' Mainship

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Chas McKeown
Tue, Jan 9, 2018 8:04 PM

We will be traveling from 1000 Island area to Demopolis, AL this Spring and
Summer on the Tenn-Tom. It looks as though 2 anchors are often required
when pulling into the feeder rivers, as least that's what many of the
reviewers say in Active Captain. We have never attempted this because of
the configuration of the aft end of our boat.

We have a swim platform and a hydraulic dinghy lift from Sealift. When the
lift is in the up position the dinghy covers most of the swim platform.
When the lift is part way down, you put it a water level and step
in....then put it all the way down under the water. We raise it with the
remote when we depart.

When docking this setup makes it very difficult to cross lines using the 2
aft cleats. The dinghy is in the way unless there is a high post to
utilized.

The only solution we can come up with for anchoring is to take the dinghy
off the lift, tie it to the side, and lower the lift all the way. The
manufacturer recommends leaving the lift out of the water as much as
possible -probably can live with this one- and it seems, it may be remotely
possible that the aft anchor line, if very slack, might get hung up on the
lift.

Would love to hear better ideas.

Included 3 photos on the below Google Docs url. Not the best of shots but
the boat is in storage, etc.

Thank for your help.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IGwmC7AeahZHkILRTlQTz48A-awxK3Q4UXrLLTWTzOU/edit?usp=sharing

Chas & Bev
and Everywhere
Mainship 43' 2005
Alex Bay, NY

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We will be traveling from 1000 Island area to Demopolis, AL this Spring and Summer on the Tenn-Tom. It looks as though 2 anchors are often required when pulling into the feeder rivers, as least that's what many of the reviewers say in Active Captain. We have never attempted this because of the configuration of the aft end of our boat. We have a swim platform and a hydraulic dinghy lift from Sealift. When the lift is in the up position the dinghy covers most of the swim platform. When the lift is part way down, you put it a water level and step in....then put it all the way down under the water. We raise it with the remote when we depart. When docking this setup makes it very difficult to cross lines using the 2 aft cleats. The dinghy is in the way unless there is a high post to utilized. The only solution we can come up with for anchoring is to take the dinghy off the lift, tie it to the side, and lower the lift all the way. The manufacturer recommends leaving the lift out of the water as much as possible -probably can live with this one- and it seems, it may be remotely possible that the aft anchor line, if very slack, might get hung up on the lift. Would love to hear better ideas. Included 3 photos on the below Google Docs url. Not the best of shots but the boat is in storage, etc. Thank for your help. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IGwmC7AeahZHkILRTlQTz48A-awxK3Q4UXrLLTWTzOU/edit?usp=sharing Chas & Bev and Everywhere Mainship 43' 2005 Alex Bay, NY -- Bahama trip photo blog: http://bevchasbahamas2014.blogspot.com/ Boat track including Bahamas: https://share.delorme.com/CharlesMcKeown <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> Virus-free. www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
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Henry Dennig
Tue, Jan 9, 2018 11:45 PM

Chas,
We did the Loop in 2016 including the St. Lawrence, Great Lakes and down through Demopolis.  Much of the trip we docked at town docks, lock walls, etc.  When we anchored, we only used an aft anchor once in Little Diversion Channel, where I dropped our dinghy anchor to keep us from swinging into the tree branches.  The concern we had with dropping an aft anchor is that if it "set", we had did not have any mechanical way to hoist it or help break it loose.  Most of the time the feeder rivers had a gentle current which allowed us to anchor and hold in one direction.  At Bashi Creek, we opted to anchor on the opposite bank of the river from the creek and we anchored facing up-river, and then had a friend anchor facing down-river and rafted our boats together.
I have a full size stern anchor that I store in my lazzeret but the one time I used it in the Chesapeake, we had to use the dinghy to pull the anchor.

Regards,

Henry J. Dennig
MTOA #4910, AGLC #8761
m/v Seven Tenths - Great Harbour 47
lying Ft Myers, FL
The cure for anything is salt water....sweat, tears or the sea

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Subject: T&T: rigging an aft anchor on our 2005 43' Mainship

We will be traveling from 1000 Island area to Demopolis, AL this Spring and Summer on the Tenn-Tom. It looks as though 2 anchors are often required when pulling into the feeder rivers, as least that's what many of the reviewers say in Active Captain. We have never attempted this because of the configuration of the aft end of our boat.

Chas & Bev
and Everywhere
Mainship 43' 2005
Alex Bay, NY
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Chas, We did the Loop in 2016 including the St. Lawrence, Great Lakes and down through Demopolis. Much of the trip we docked at town docks, lock walls, etc. When we anchored, we only used an aft anchor once in Little Diversion Channel, where I dropped our dinghy anchor to keep us from swinging into the tree branches. The concern we had with dropping an aft anchor is that if it "set", we had did not have any mechanical way to hoist it or help break it loose. Most of the time the feeder rivers had a gentle current which allowed us to anchor and hold in one direction. At Bashi Creek, we opted to anchor on the opposite bank of the river from the creek and we anchored facing up-river, and then had a friend anchor facing down-river and rafted our boats together. I have a full size stern anchor that I store in my lazzeret but the one time I used it in the Chesapeake, we had to use the dinghy to pull the anchor. Regards, Henry J. Dennig MTOA #4910, AGLC #8761 m/v Seven Tenths - Great Harbour 47 lying Ft Myers, FL The cure for anything is salt water....sweat, tears or the sea <snip> -----Original Message----- From: Trawlers-and-Trawlering [mailto:trawlers-bounces@lists.trawlering.com] On Behalf Of Chas McKeown via Trawlers-and-Trawlering Sent: Tuesday, January 9, 2018 3:05 PM To: trawlers@lists.trawlering.com Cc: Bill Forrestall <bforrestall@gmail.com> Subject: T&T: rigging an aft anchor on our 2005 43' Mainship We will be traveling from 1000 Island area to Demopolis, AL this Spring and Summer on the Tenn-Tom. It looks as though 2 anchors are often required when pulling into the feeder rivers, as least that's what many of the reviewers say in Active Captain. We have never attempted this because of the configuration of the aft end of our boat. Chas & Bev and Everywhere Mainship 43' 2005 Alex Bay, NY <snip>
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Sean Welsh
Thu, Jan 11, 2018 1:53 AM

We have no stern anchor. In general I do not believe in their usefulness
on a boat of our displacement and windage.

We did the entirety of the Mobile/Black
Warrior/Tombigbee/TennTom/Tennessee system all the way from Mobile to
Knoxville last year, as well as the entire Lower Mississippi down to New
Orleans. Never once did we need a stern anchor. And we had more
anchorages than most because 1. we generally shun docks and 2. we went
"backwards," pushing upriver from Mobile against about a knot of current.

To be fair we have heavy all-chain rode, our snubber attaches at the
waterline, and we did have to choke up to 4:1 scope a few times. But we
are 52' long with a 6' draft. In short, I would just not worry about it.
YMMV. All our anchorages have coordinates posted on our blog.

-Sean
m/y Vector
on the hard in Fort Lauderdale, FL
http://OurOdyssey.BlogSpot.com

On 01/09/2018 03:04 PM, Chas McKeown via Trawlers-and-Trawlering wrote:

... It looks as though 2 anchors are often required
when pulling into the feeder rivers, as least that's what many of the
reviewers say in Active Captain.

We have no stern anchor. In general I do not believe in their usefulness on a boat of our displacement and windage. We did the entirety of the Mobile/Black Warrior/Tombigbee/TennTom/Tennessee system all the way from Mobile to Knoxville last year, as well as the entire Lower Mississippi down to New Orleans. Never once did we need a stern anchor. And we had more anchorages than most because 1. we generally shun docks and 2. we went "backwards," pushing upriver from Mobile against about a knot of current. To be fair we have heavy all-chain rode, our snubber attaches at the waterline, and we did have to choke up to 4:1 scope a few times. But we are 52' long with a 6' draft. In short, I would just not worry about it. YMMV. All our anchorages have coordinates posted on our blog. -Sean m/y Vector on the hard in Fort Lauderdale, FL http://OurOdyssey.BlogSpot.com On 01/09/2018 03:04 PM, Chas McKeown via Trawlers-and-Trawlering wrote: > ... It looks as though 2 anchors are often required > when pulling into the feeder rivers, as least that's what many of the > reviewers say in Active Captain.