I am installing the windows in my pilothouse and had planned to put in non opening "deadlights" but have been reconsidering that decision. The ventilation from opening windows would be nice, especially in this area. The pilothouse is tuff to aircondition adequately. However, opening windows won't be as strong or water tight as fixed ones. The forward windows are fairly large, about 3 ft x 3 ft. The side windows are smaller. I plan to use laminated 1/2 inch glass (fixed, non opening) in the forward windows and lighter glass in the sides and back. The design of my windows is an offtake of work boat types, inset and flanged, heavily built to (hopefully) take a big hit and stay intact. I think they will withstand a knockdown easy enough. I'm concerned however, about the trade off in strength if I make them to open. Is it worth it ? _________________________________________________________________ Recharge--play some free games. Win cool prizes too! http://club.live.com/home.aspx?icid=CLUB_wlmailtextlink

Going back to work boat practices for guidance, how many have you seen where the forward facing windows open? I've seen some "tall" houses on older steel North Sea trawlers that have them. Ulysses for example. But it seems to me that most of the modern trawlers limit themselves to Dutch doors or side windows and overhead hatches. Given the amount of electronics that live along the forward windows these days, leaks would be a bigger worry than outright breakage to me. It's been my experience that even keeping the window wiper penetrations from leaking is hard enough when the rain and wind kick up. An opening window would be even harder. You could do it I suppose, but my guess is it will be a constant annoyance. tr bob england wrote: > I am installing the windows in my pilothouse and had planned to put in non > opening "deadlights" but have been reconsidering that decision. The > ventilation from opening windows would be nice, especially in this area. The > pilothouse is tuff to aircondition adequately. However, opening windows won't > be as strong or water tight as fixed ones. The forward windows are fairly > large, about 3 ft x 3 ft. The side windows are smaller. I plan to use > laminated 1/2 inch glass (fixed, non opening) in the forward windows and > lighter glass in the sides and back. The design of my windows is an offtake of > work boat types, inset and flanged, heavily built to (hopefully) take a big > hit and stay intact. I think they will withstand a knockdown easy enough. I'm > concerned however, about the trade off in strength if I make them to open. Is > it worth it ? > _________________________________________________________________ > Recharge--play some free games. Win cool prizes too! > http://club.live.com/home.aspx?icid=CLUB_wlmailtextlink > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/passagemaking-under-power > > To unsubscribe send email to > passagemaking-under-power-request@lists.samurai.com with the word > UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else in the subject or body of the message. > > Passagemaking Under Power and PUP are trademarks of Water World Productions, formerly known as Trawler World Productions.

On Aug 12, 2007, at 8:21 PM, Terry Rolon wrote: > Given the amount of > electronics that live along the forward windows these days, leaks > would > be a bigger worry than outright breakage to me. It's been my > experience > that even keeping the window wiper penetrations from leaking is hard > enough when the rain and wind kick up. That reminds me of a really nice yacht I saw that was getting ready to go through cape may. The captain prior to going out into some not too bad head seas(3 to 5) was seen taping up his windows. I was going to help him cast off as we were packed in tight, and he commented after getting done well when it's not blowing they work really well. I have two nice hatches up top and the dutch doors give me all the ventilation I need when underway. John Ford KK44 Feisty Lady Annapolis City Marina