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Key Stage
Thu, Feb 21, 2008 1:03 AM

Not sure what happened with "copy and paste", but the inventory of my lines got transposed out of context with "7's" instead of bullet points.  Here is my second attempt at listing my inventory.....my apologies.

Mooring lines, 2 at 15 feet length, 3/4 inch nylon
Docking lines, 4 at 40  feet each, 3/4 inch double braided
Docking lines, 2 at 30 feet, three strand 3/4 inch nylon

Key

Not sure what happened with "copy and paste", but the inventory of my lines got transposed out of context with "7's" instead of bullet points. Here is my second attempt at listing my inventory.....my apologies. Mooring lines, 2 at 15 feet length, 3/4 inch nylon Docking lines, 4 at 40 feet each, 3/4 inch double braided Docking lines, 2 at 30 feet, three strand 3/4 inch nylon Key
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Ron Rogers
Thu, Feb 21, 2008 2:12 AM

IMHO, you are overdoing it on the diameter. 5/8" is more appropriate for
docking lines as you would like to have some shock absorbing stretch.
Braided lines have a nice "hand", but three-strand twisted have more
stretch. I guess your selection of 2 twisted three-strand is for spring
lines with extra stretch; not sure of your thinking - but it works.

With mooring lines there are other factors operating, Your mooring system
will absorb some of the shock, but chafe is the real enemy.

Larry Zeitlin has drawn our attention to an MIT study which revealed that
nylon line fails from heat - especially when, in a storm, chafing gear
prevents cooling water from reaching the nylon. Hamilton Marine sells
special mooring lines by Yale which incorporate the lessons from the MIT
study. For example, the exterior layer is abrasion resistant polyester. You
should drop by and talk to them. (no affiliation - occasional mail-order
customer.)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Key Stage" khstage@yahoo.com

| Not sure what happened with "copy and paste", but the inventory of my
lines got transposed out of context with "7's" instead of bullet points.
Here is my second attempt at listing my inventory.....my apologies.
|
|
| Mooring lines, 2 at 15 feet length, 3/4 inch nylon
| Docking lines, 4 at 40  feet each, 3/4 inch double braided
| Docking lines, 2 at 30 feet, three strand 3/4 inch nylon

IMHO, you are overdoing it on the diameter. 5/8" is more appropriate for docking lines as you would like to have some shock absorbing stretch. Braided lines have a nice "hand", but three-strand twisted have more stretch. I guess your selection of 2 twisted three-strand is for spring lines with extra stretch; not sure of your thinking - but it works. With mooring lines there are other factors operating, Your mooring system will absorb some of the shock, but chafe is the real enemy. Larry Zeitlin has drawn our attention to an MIT study which revealed that nylon line fails from heat - especially when, in a storm, chafing gear prevents cooling water from reaching the nylon. Hamilton Marine sells special mooring lines by Yale which incorporate the lessons from the MIT study. For example, the exterior layer is abrasion resistant polyester. You should drop by and talk to them. (no affiliation - occasional mail-order customer.) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Key Stage" <khstage@yahoo.com> | Not sure what happened with "copy and paste", but the inventory of my lines got transposed out of context with "7's" instead of bullet points. Here is my second attempt at listing my inventory.....my apologies. | | | Mooring lines, 2 at 15 feet length, 3/4 inch nylon | Docking lines, 4 at 40 feet each, 3/4 inch double braided | Docking lines, 2 at 30 feet, three strand 3/4 inch nylon
LL
LA Licata
Thu, Feb 21, 2008 9:59 AM

Key,

Wow!

Just my option but way too thick.

I owned a 30000 pound express cruiser one time in the past, and the
very reputable manufacturer provided 8 one-half inch Yale double
braided lines, 4 about 25 feet long for dock lines, and 4 about 40
feet long for spring lines and other uses, all black.

There were times that I felt I needed more "line" to the pier. In
that case, I doubled the line.

The thinner lines made handling and storage easier.

I washed the lines once per year with fabric softener and made sure
they were dry. While in use, looped them (like sail boaters do) to
allow for drainage.

I also had one smaller, 1/4" floating line with a tennis ball on the
end and the ball filled with some silicone sealer that was going to
go bad. I used this when i needed to throw a line to someone for some
reason, and then used its bitter end to feed the one-half inch line.
Had to do this at least once to help rig a tow line to another
boater. Also good for "person" overboard recovery.

I also made it a habit of re-tying the "pier-to-the-boat" with the
eye of the line on the boat's cleat after we were settled in the
berth. I found that this allowed me to keep the lines cleaner,
provided less tripping hazard to those on the pier, and allowed me to
get underway with no help from shore.

Just some thoughts...

Lee

On Feb 21, 2008, at 0303, Key Stage wrote:

Not sure what happened with "copy and paste", but the inventory of my
lines got transposed out of context with "7's" instead of bullet
points.  Here is my second attempt at listing my inventory.....my
apologies.

Mooring lines, 2 at 15 feet length, 3/4 inch nylon
Docking lines, 4 at 40  feet each, 3/4 inch double braided
Docking lines, 2 at 30 feet, three strand 3/4 inch nylon

Key


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Key, Wow! Just my option but way too thick. I owned a 30000 pound express cruiser one time in the past, and the very reputable manufacturer provided 8 one-half inch Yale double braided lines, 4 about 25 feet long for dock lines, and 4 about 40 feet long for spring lines and other uses, all black. There were times that I felt I needed more "line" to the pier. In that case, I doubled the line. The thinner lines made handling and storage easier. I washed the lines once per year with fabric softener and made sure they were dry. While in use, looped them (like sail boaters do) to allow for drainage. I also had one smaller, 1/4" floating line with a tennis ball on the end and the ball filled with some silicone sealer that was going to go bad. I used this when i needed to throw a line to someone for some reason, and then used its bitter end to feed the one-half inch line. Had to do this at least once to help rig a tow line to another boater. Also good for "person" overboard recovery. I also made it a habit of re-tying the "pier-to-the-boat" with the eye of the line on the boat's cleat after we were settled in the berth. I found that this allowed me to keep the lines cleaner, provided less tripping hazard to those on the pier, and allowed me to get underway with no help from shore. Just some thoughts... Lee On Feb 21, 2008, at 0303, Key Stage wrote: Not sure what happened with "copy and paste", but the inventory of my lines got transposed out of context with "7's" instead of bullet points. Here is my second attempt at listing my inventory.....my apologies. Mooring lines, 2 at 15 feet length, 3/4 inch nylon Docking lines, 4 at 40 feet each, 3/4 inch double braided Docking lines, 2 at 30 feet, three strand 3/4 inch nylon Key _______________________________________________ http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change email address, etc) go to: http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/ options/trawlers-and-trawlering Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited. [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pkcs7-signature which had a name of smime.p7s]
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Rudy and Jill Sechez
Fri, Feb 22, 2008 1:15 PM

Godd Morning-

We wanted to respond, but it is a long.  Hopefully there will be something of value for you.

Rudy and Jill Sechez
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Peter Bennett
Fri, Feb 22, 2008 5:16 PM

Friday, February 22, 2008, 5:15:27 AM, Rudy wrote:

RaJS> Godd Morning-
RaJS>
RaJS>  We wanted to respond, but it is a long.  Hopefully there will be something of value for you.
RaJS>
RaJS>  Rudy and Jill Sechez
RaJS>  Briney Bug in Sanford, Fl; leaving for the Bahamas in a few weeks.

RaJS>
RaJS> ---------------------------------
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Ennos 31 "Honeycomb"
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Friday, February 22, 2008, 5:15:27 AM, Rudy wrote: RaJS> Godd Morning- RaJS> RaJS> We wanted to respond, but it is a long. Hopefully there will be something of value for you. RaJS> RaJS> Rudy and Jill Sechez RaJS> Briney Bug in Sanford, Fl; leaving for the Bahamas in a few weeks. RaJS> RaJS> --------------------------------- RaJS> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. RaJS> [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type RaJS> application/octet-stream which had a name of DOCKING RaJS> LINES.odt] The mailing list does not pass attachments. In any case, I consider it poor practice to send useful information in file formats that are not widely used - only Open Office would be able to open your .odt file. It would be better to use PDF or even word (but even better, particularly if the thing is just text, to put the whole thing in the body of the message.) -- Peter Bennett, VE7CEI Vancouver, B.C., Canada Ennos 31 "Honeycomb" GPS and NMEA info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter Vancouver Power Squadron: http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca