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Tbolt with Palisade?

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Grant Hodgson
Sun, Jan 18, 2009 8:32 PM

Does anybody know how difficult it would be to use just the antenna +
LNA part of a Trimble Palisade?  Have Tbolt but no antenna. I can get a
Palisade for much less than a proper GPS antenna.  Coax length would be
about 20 feet, connected to the output of the Palisade's LNA (or output
filter if fitted).

Only possible problem I envisage is that the Palisade LNA will probably
have less gain than say a 58532A.  However, the latter is designed for
long cable runs; I'm guessing that this unusual arrangement might work
with a fairly short cable run.  Powering the Palisade LNA shouldn't be
too difficult me thinks.

regards

Grant

Does anybody know how difficult it would be to use just the antenna + LNA part of a Trimble Palisade? Have Tbolt but no antenna. I can get a Palisade for much less than a proper GPS antenna. Coax length would be about 20 feet, connected to the output of the Palisade's LNA (or output filter if fitted). Only possible problem I envisage is that the Palisade LNA will probably have less gain than say a 58532A. However, the latter is designed for long cable runs; I'm guessing that this unusual arrangement might work with a fairly short cable run. Powering the Palisade LNA shouldn't be too difficult me thinks. regards Grant
BG
Björn Gabrielsson
Sun, Jan 18, 2009 9:05 PM

On Sun, 2009-01-18 at 20:32 +0000, Grant Hodgson wrote:

Does anybody know how difficult it would be to use just the antenna +
LNA part of a Trimble Palisade?  Have Tbolt but no antenna. I can get a
Palisade for much less than a proper GPS antenna.  Coax length would be
about 20 feet, connected to the output of the Palisade's LNA (or output
filter if fitted).

Does the Palisade have an LNA at the antenna? Since it is an integrated
receiver antenna construction, I would imagine they use a passive
antenna. And you have no ready to use coaxial connector to the Palisade
housing.

Is it worth your time? Why not take a small mag-mount antenna (++many
available at sub $10 at an online auction site close to you.) They
usually have up to about 5 meters of thin coax (RG174 or equiv.).

--

Björn

On Sun, 2009-01-18 at 20:32 +0000, Grant Hodgson wrote: > Does anybody know how difficult it would be to use just the antenna + > LNA part of a Trimble Palisade? Have Tbolt but no antenna. I can get a > Palisade for much less than a proper GPS antenna. Coax length would be > about 20 feet, connected to the output of the Palisade's LNA (or output > filter if fitted). Does the Palisade have an LNA at the antenna? Since it is an integrated receiver antenna construction, I would imagine they use a passive antenna. And you have no ready to use coaxial connector to the Palisade housing. Is it worth your time? Why not take a small mag-mount antenna (++many available at sub $10 at an online auction site close to you.) They usually have up to about 5 meters of thin coax (RG174 or equiv.). -- Björn
RA
Robert Atkinson
Mon, Jan 19, 2009 7:46 AM

Hi Grant,
Keep the Palisade as it is. It's got a useful 1 PPS output. Also it's almost impossible to open the case without destroying it. The two halves are epoxyed together with a very good joint geometry! There is no obvious way to get to the antenna output. If you want to hack something, have a look for one of the Vaisalla GPS radiosondes. They have a nice Bi-Helix antenna, LNA and filter. But even a simple patch on a ground plane will do.

Robert G8RPI.

--- On Sun, 18/1/09, Grant Hodgson grant@ghengineering.co.uk wrote:

From: Grant Hodgson grant@ghengineering.co.uk
Subject: [time-nuts] Tbolt with Palisade?
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Date: Sunday, 18 January, 2009, 8:32 PM
Does anybody know how difficult it would be to use just the
antenna +
LNA part of a Trimble Palisade?  Have Tbolt but no antenna.
I can get a
Palisade for much less than a proper GPS antenna.  Coax
length would be
about 20 feet, connected to the output of the
Palisade's LNA (or output
filter if fitted).

Only possible problem I envisage is that the Palisade LNA
will probably
have less gain than say a 58532A.  However, the latter is
designed for
long cable runs; I'm guessing that this unusual
arrangement might work
with a fairly short cable run.  Powering the Palisade LNA
shouldn't be
too difficult me thinks.

regards

Grant


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Hi Grant, Keep the Palisade as it is. It's got a useful 1 PPS output. Also it's almost impossible to open the case without destroying it. The two halves are epoxyed together with a very good joint geometry! There is no obvious way to get to the antenna output. If you want to hack something, have a look for one of the Vaisalla GPS radiosondes. They have a nice Bi-Helix antenna, LNA and filter. But even a simple patch on a ground plane will do. Robert G8RPI. --- On Sun, 18/1/09, Grant Hodgson <grant@ghengineering.co.uk> wrote: > From: Grant Hodgson <grant@ghengineering.co.uk> > Subject: [time-nuts] Tbolt with Palisade? > To: time-nuts@febo.com > Date: Sunday, 18 January, 2009, 8:32 PM > Does anybody know how difficult it would be to use just the > antenna + > LNA part of a Trimble Palisade? Have Tbolt but no antenna. > I can get a > Palisade for much less than a proper GPS antenna. Coax > length would be > about 20 feet, connected to the output of the > Palisade's LNA (or output > filter if fitted). > > Only possible problem I envisage is that the Palisade LNA > will probably > have less gain than say a 58532A. However, the latter is > designed for > long cable runs; I'm guessing that this unusual > arrangement might work > with a fairly short cable run. Powering the Palisade LNA > shouldn't be > too difficult me thinks. > > regards > > Grant > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > https://www.febo.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts > and follow the instructions there.