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Re: [PUP] Territorial waters and innocent passage

LL
LA Licata
Mon, Dec 24, 2007 1:52 PM

Scott,

not 100% true.

Countries can tell you not to anchor, and if at anchor, can force you
to get underway if they chose NOT to arrest you.

The US has done this in the past, and reserves the right to do it in
the future. China recently did it to 3 US minesweepers trying to get
shelter from bad weather.

An admiralty lawyer can better help with this...

Lee

Begin forwarded message:

I may not quite have phrased the above correctly, but the net of this
(to my
understanding) is I can transit the international waters of a country as
long as I don't impeded the countries peace, security or good order.
I also
believe I can anchor if necessary to maintain safety and security of the
vessel.

Scott, not 100% true. Countries can tell you not to anchor, and if at anchor, can force you to get underway if they chose NOT to arrest you. The US has done this in the past, and reserves the right to do it in the future. China recently did it to 3 US minesweepers trying to get shelter from bad weather. An admiralty lawyer can better help with this... Lee Begin forwarded message: I may not quite have phrased the above correctly, but the net of this (to my understanding) is I can transit the international waters of a country as long as I don't impeded the countries peace, security or good order. I also believe I can anchor if necessary to maintain safety and security of the vessel.
MM
Mike Maurice
Mon, Dec 24, 2007 5:13 PM

The Chinese were in violation of their admiralty and Law of the Sea
obligations. The enforcement of the these obligations is not appealable
to a higher authority, except in the sense that one can appeal to the
good manners of the those involved.

The LOTS is generally observed and complied with, but as Lee points out,
not always.

Mike


Capt. Mike Maurice
Beaverton Oregon(Near Portland)

The Chinese were in violation of their admiralty and Law of the Sea obligations. The enforcement of the these obligations is not appealable to a higher authority, except in the sense that one can appeal to the good manners of the those involved. The LOTS is generally observed and complied with, but as Lee points out, not always. Mike _____________________________________ Capt. Mike Maurice Beaverton Oregon(Near Portland)
JM
John Marshall
Mon, Dec 24, 2007 5:25 PM

Sounds like the biggest issue, as Dave Cooper relates, is being
viewed as someone's lunch ticket. Sounds like some immigration and
port captains see shiny trawler-yachts as economic opportunity.
Scruffy sailboaters probably don't trigger the same capitalist zeal.

John Marshall
N5520-Serendipity
Sequim Bay, WA
On Dec 24, 2007, at 9:13 AM, Mike Maurice wrote:

The Chinese were in violation of their admiralty and Law of the Sea
obligations. The enforcement of the these obligations is not
appealable
to a higher authority, except in the sense that one can appeal to the
good manners of the those involved.

The LOTS is generally observed and complied with, but as Lee points
out,
not always.

Mike


Capt. Mike Maurice
Beaverton Oregon(Near Portland)


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Sounds like the biggest issue, as Dave Cooper relates, is being viewed as someone's lunch ticket. Sounds like some immigration and port captains see shiny trawler-yachts as economic opportunity. Scruffy sailboaters probably don't trigger the same capitalist zeal. John Marshall N5520-Serendipity Sequim Bay, WA On Dec 24, 2007, at 9:13 AM, Mike Maurice wrote: > The Chinese were in violation of their admiralty and Law of the Sea > obligations. The enforcement of the these obligations is not > appealable > to a higher authority, except in the sense that one can appeal to the > good manners of the those involved. > > The LOTS is generally observed and complied with, but as Lee points > out, > not always. > > Mike > > _____________________________________ > Capt. Mike Maurice > Beaverton Oregon(Near Portland) > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/passagemaking-under-power > > To unsubscribe send email to > passagemaking-under-power-request@lists.samurai.com with the word > UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else in the subject or body of the message. > > Passagemaking Under Power and PUP are trademarks of Water World > Productions, formerly known as Trawler World Productions.