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Brian, WA1ZMS
Sat, Jul 28, 2012 1:42 AM
Does anyone know if there is ANY recent active Lightsquared testing taking
place in the SFO area of the US?
I'm dealing with a day-job issue with GPS clocks in the Bay Area showing
"GPS unlocked" errors from 3rd party equipment.
-Brian, WA1ZMS
Does anyone know if there is ANY recent active Lightsquared testing taking
place in the SFO area of the US?
I'm dealing with a day-job issue with GPS clocks in the Bay Area showing
"GPS unlocked" errors from 3rd party equipment.
-Brian, WA1ZMS
DI
David I. Emery
Sat, Jul 28, 2012 2:30 AM
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 09:42:49PM -0400, Brian, WA1ZMS wrote:
Does anyone know if there is ANY recent active Lightsquared testing taking
place in the SFO area of the US?
I'm dealing with a day-job issue with GPS clocks in the Bay Area showing
"GPS unlocked" errors from 3rd party equipment.
Do you have a good SA available and some broadband antennas...
And perhaps some logging program like John Mile's SSM ?
--
Dave Emery N1PRE/AE, die@dieconsulting.com DIE Consulting, Weston, Mass 02493
"An empty zombie mind with a forlorn barely readable weatherbeaten
'For Rent' sign still vainly flapping outside on the weed encrusted pole - in
celebration of what could have been, but wasn't and is not to be now either."
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 09:42:49PM -0400, Brian, WA1ZMS wrote:
> Does anyone know if there is ANY recent active Lightsquared testing taking
> place in the SFO area of the US?
>
>
>
> I'm dealing with a day-job issue with GPS clocks in the Bay Area showing
> "GPS unlocked" errors from 3rd party equipment.
Do you have a good SA available and some broadband antennas...
And perhaps some logging program like John Mile's SSM ?
--
Dave Emery N1PRE/AE, die@dieconsulting.com DIE Consulting, Weston, Mass 02493
"An empty zombie mind with a forlorn barely readable weatherbeaten
'For Rent' sign still vainly flapping outside on the weed encrusted pole - in
celebration of what could have been, but wasn't and is not to be now either."
JL
Jim Lux
Sat, Jul 28, 2012 4:34 AM
On 7/27/12 6:42 PM, Brian, WA1ZMS wrote:
Does anyone know if there is ANY recent active Lightsquared testing taking
place in the SFO area of the US?
Very unlikely.. they've lost their experimental license.
I'm dealing with a day-job issue with GPS clocks in the Bay Area showing
"GPS unlocked" errors from 3rd party equipment.
there are myriad sources of interference out there. Jammers are a BIG
problem in urban areas (truckers and cab drivers use them to defeat
their GPS based tracking systems and time clocks).
there's a great set of articles over the past few months in GPS World
about it.
On 7/27/12 6:42 PM, Brian, WA1ZMS wrote:
> Does anyone know if there is ANY recent active Lightsquared testing taking
> place in the SFO area of the US?
>
>
Very unlikely.. they've lost their experimental license.
>
> I'm dealing with a day-job issue with GPS clocks in the Bay Area showing
> "GPS unlocked" errors from 3rd party equipment.
>
>
there are myriad sources of interference out there. Jammers are a BIG
problem in urban areas (truckers and cab drivers use them to defeat
their GPS based tracking systems and time clocks).
there's a great set of articles over the past few months in GPS World
about it.
>
>
>
>
>
> -Brian, WA1ZMS
>
>
>
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bownes
Sat, Jul 28, 2012 4:53 AM
Interesting that they use jammers. The guys on the ambulances just wrap the antennas with the foil from burger wrappers or the like.
On Jul 28, 2012, at 0:34, Jim Lux jimlux@earthlink.net wrote:
On 7/27/12 6:42 PM, Brian, WA1ZMS wrote:
Does anyone know if there is ANY recent active Lightsquared testing taking
place in the SFO area of the US?
Very unlikely.. they've lost their experimental license.
I'm dealing with a day-job issue with GPS clocks in the Bay Area showing
"GPS unlocked" errors from 3rd party equipment.
there are myriad sources of interference out there. Jammers are a BIG problem in urban areas (truckers and cab drivers use them to defeat their GPS based tracking systems and time clocks).
there's a great set of articles over the past few months in GPS World about it.
Interesting that they use jammers. The guys on the ambulances just wrap the antennas with the foil from burger wrappers or the like.
On Jul 28, 2012, at 0:34, Jim Lux <jimlux@earthlink.net> wrote:
> On 7/27/12 6:42 PM, Brian, WA1ZMS wrote:
>> Does anyone know if there is ANY recent active Lightsquared testing taking
>> place in the SFO area of the US?
>>
>>
>
> Very unlikely.. they've lost their experimental license.
>
>>
>> I'm dealing with a day-job issue with GPS clocks in the Bay Area showing
>> "GPS unlocked" errors from 3rd party equipment.
>>
>>
>
>
> there are myriad sources of interference out there. Jammers are a BIG problem in urban areas (truckers and cab drivers use them to defeat their GPS based tracking systems and time clocks).
>
> there's a great set of articles over the past few months in GPS World about it.
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Brian, WA1ZMS
>>
>>
>>
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Rex
Sat, Jul 28, 2012 4:56 AM
I've had a graph logging on my HP3816A in San Jose. I see one big glitch
on 7/27 ~17:00 UTC. I don't know if it unlocked, nor if it was from
something received, or some jump in my hardware. Other than that one
jump, I don't see anything unusual over the last week or so.
There must be others around here who also have been logging GPSDO's.
On 7/27/2012 6:42 PM, Brian, WA1ZMS wrote:
Does anyone know if there is ANY recent active Lightsquared testing taking
place in the SFO area of the US?
I'm dealing with a day-job issue with GPS clocks in the Bay Area showing
"GPS unlocked" errors from 3rd party equipment.
-Brian, WA1ZMS
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I've had a graph logging on my HP3816A in San Jose. I see one big glitch
on 7/27 ~17:00 UTC. I don't know if it unlocked, nor if it was from
something received, or some jump in my hardware. Other than that one
jump, I don't see anything unusual over the last week or so.
There must be others around here who also have been logging GPSDO's.
On 7/27/2012 6:42 PM, Brian, WA1ZMS wrote:
> Does anyone know if there is ANY recent active Lightsquared testing taking
> place in the SFO area of the US?
>
>
>
> I'm dealing with a day-job issue with GPS clocks in the Bay Area showing
> "GPS unlocked" errors from 3rd party equipment.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -Brian, WA1ZMS
>
>
>
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Brian, WA1ZMS
Sat, Jul 28, 2012 5:18 AM
Jim-
That's one thing I was afraid of, but did not yet mention to our mgmt. team.
But if Light squared lost their Part 5 license, then I can take them off the
list.
It's a complicated problem that due to the nature of it, I cannot discuss on
the reflector.
But I'm involved via remote reporting from techs out in the field and their
daily reports and conference calls.
So I just need to "due engineering diligence" as I try and help them.
I expect my butt will be on a plane next week unless I can identify a 3rd
party vendor equipment problem.
THANKS!
-Brian, WA1ZMS
-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Lux
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 12:35 AM
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lightsquared questionfor SFO area....
On 7/27/12 6:42 PM, Brian, WA1ZMS wrote:
Does anyone know if there is ANY recent active Lightsquared testing
taking place in the SFO area of the US?
Very unlikely.. they've lost their experimental license.
I'm dealing with a day-job issue with GPS clocks in the Bay Area
showing "GPS unlocked" errors from 3rd party equipment.
there are myriad sources of interference out there. Jammers are a BIG
problem in urban areas (truckers and cab drivers use them to defeat their
GPS based tracking systems and time clocks).
there's a great set of articles over the past few months in GPS World about
it.
and follow the instructions there.
Jim-
That's one thing I was afraid of, but did not yet mention to our mgmt. team.
But if Light squared lost their Part 5 license, then I can take them off the
list.
It's a complicated problem that due to the nature of it, I cannot discuss on
the reflector.
But I'm involved via remote reporting from techs out in the field and their
daily reports and conference calls.
So I just need to "due engineering diligence" as I try and help them.
I expect my butt will be on a plane next week unless I can identify a 3rd
party vendor equipment problem.
THANKS!
-Brian, WA1ZMS
-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Lux
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 12:35 AM
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lightsquared questionfor SFO area....
On 7/27/12 6:42 PM, Brian, WA1ZMS wrote:
> Does anyone know if there is ANY recent active Lightsquared testing
> taking place in the SFO area of the US?
>
>
Very unlikely.. they've lost their experimental license.
>
> I'm dealing with a day-job issue with GPS clocks in the Bay Area
> showing "GPS unlocked" errors from 3rd party equipment.
>
>
there are myriad sources of interference out there. Jammers are a BIG
problem in urban areas (truckers and cab drivers use them to defeat their
GPS based tracking systems and time clocks).
there's a great set of articles over the past few months in GPS World about
it.
>
>
>
>
>
> -Brian, WA1ZMS
>
>
>
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Said Jackson
Sat, Jul 28, 2012 8:32 AM
We have about 25 different GPSDOs running from four cheap antennae on the roof in Los Gatos right next to Hwy 17, and have not noted any unusual outages at all, even during the recent solar flare.
I guess any truckers with jammers on hwy 17 pass by so fast we don't notice anything.
Bye,
Said
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On Jul 27, 2012, at 22:18, "Brian, WA1ZMS" wa1zms@att.net wrote:
Jim-
That's one thing I was afraid of, but did not yet mention to our mgmt. team.
But if Light squared lost their Part 5 license, then I can take them off the
list.
It's a complicated problem that due to the nature of it, I cannot discuss on
the reflector.
But I'm involved via remote reporting from techs out in the field and their
daily reports and conference calls.
So I just need to "due engineering diligence" as I try and help them.
I expect my butt will be on a plane next week unless I can identify a 3rd
party vendor equipment problem.
THANKS!
-Brian, WA1ZMS
-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Lux
Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 12:35 AM
To: time-nuts@febo.com
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lightsquared questionfor SFO area....
On 7/27/12 6:42 PM, Brian, WA1ZMS wrote:
Does anyone know if there is ANY recent active Lightsquared testing
taking place in the SFO area of the US?
Very unlikely.. they've lost their experimental license.
I'm dealing with a day-job issue with GPS clocks in the Bay Area
showing "GPS unlocked" errors from 3rd party equipment.
there are myriad sources of interference out there. Jammers are a BIG
problem in urban areas (truckers and cab drivers use them to defeat their
GPS based tracking systems and time clocks).
there's a great set of articles over the past few months in GPS World about
it.
and follow the instructions there.
We have about 25 different GPSDOs running from four cheap antennae on the roof in Los Gatos right next to Hwy 17, and have not noted any unusual outages at all, even during the recent solar flare.
I guess any truckers with jammers on hwy 17 pass by so fast we don't notice anything.
Bye,
Said
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 27, 2012, at 22:18, "Brian, WA1ZMS" <wa1zms@att.net> wrote:
> Jim-
>
> That's one thing I was afraid of, but did not yet mention to our mgmt. team.
> But if Light squared lost their Part 5 license, then I can take them off the
> list.
> It's a complicated problem that due to the nature of it, I cannot discuss on
> the reflector.
>
> But I'm involved via remote reporting from techs out in the field and their
> daily reports and conference calls.
> So I just need to "due engineering diligence" as I try and help them.
>
> I expect my butt will be on a plane next week unless I can identify a 3rd
> party vendor equipment problem.
>
> THANKS!
>
>
> -Brian, WA1ZMS
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
> Behalf Of Jim Lux
> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 12:35 AM
> To: time-nuts@febo.com
> Subject: Re: [time-nuts] Lightsquared questionfor SFO area....
>
> On 7/27/12 6:42 PM, Brian, WA1ZMS wrote:
>> Does anyone know if there is ANY recent active Lightsquared testing
>> taking place in the SFO area of the US?
>>
>>
>
> Very unlikely.. they've lost their experimental license.
>
>>
>> I'm dealing with a day-job issue with GPS clocks in the Bay Area
>> showing "GPS unlocked" errors from 3rd party equipment.
>>
>>
>
>
> there are myriad sources of interference out there. Jammers are a BIG
> problem in urban areas (truckers and cab drivers use them to defeat their
> GPS based tracking systems and time clocks).
>
> there's a great set of articles over the past few months in GPS World about
> it.
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -Brian, WA1ZMS
>>
>>
>>
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Craig S McCartney
Sat, Jul 28, 2012 1:19 PM
Brian,
I have four GPSDO systems running and logging on a hill West of Redwood
City with a view of the South Bay. Let me know if I can help.
Craig McCartney
160 Montalvo Road
Palomar Park, CA 94062
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Behalf Of Brian, WA1ZMS
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 6:43 PM
To: Time-Nuts
Subject: [time-nuts] Lightsquared questionfor SFO area....
Does anyone know if there is ANY recent active Lightsquared testing
taking place in the SFO area of the US?
I'm dealing with a day-job issue with GPS clocks in the Bay Area showing
"GPS unlocked" errors from 3rd party equipment.
-Brian, WA1ZMS
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Brian,
I have four GPSDO systems running and logging on a hill West of Redwood
City with a view of the South Bay. Let me know if I can help.
Craig McCartney
160 Montalvo Road
Palomar Park, CA 94062
-----Original Message-----
From: time-nuts-bounces@febo.com [mailto:time-nuts-bounces@febo.com] On
Behalf Of Brian, WA1ZMS
Sent: Friday, July 27, 2012 6:43 PM
To: Time-Nuts
Subject: [time-nuts] Lightsquared questionfor SFO area....
Does anyone know if there is ANY recent active Lightsquared testing
taking place in the SFO area of the US?
I'm dealing with a day-job issue with GPS clocks in the Bay Area showing
"GPS unlocked" errors from 3rd party equipment.
-Brian, WA1ZMS
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Jim Lux
Sat, Jul 28, 2012 2:09 PM
On 7/28/12 1:32 AM, Said Jackson wrote:
We have about 25 different GPSDOs running from four cheap antennae on the roof in Los Gatos right next to Hwy 17, and have not noted any unusual outages at all, even during the recent solar flare.
I guess any truckers with jammers on hwy 17 pass by so fast we don't notice anything.
On 7/28/12 1:32 AM, Said Jackson wrote:
> We have about 25 different GPSDOs running from four cheap antennae on the roof in Los Gatos right next to Hwy 17, and have not noted any unusual outages at all, even during the recent solar flare.
>
> I guess any truckers with jammers on hwy 17 pass by so fast we don't notice anything.
>
I think the notable problems at Newark airport were because the jammer
containing vehicles were sitting around in one place.
http://www.gpsworld.com/government/personal-privacy-jammers-12837 is
one among many articles about it.