The link below shows video shot by cruise ship passenger of the rescue at sea by the Coral Princess of a friend of mine from Key Biscayne YC who is the captain of Illusion. They had traveled to Cartegena Columbia for a several month stay and he was on the return trip. The crew member became seasick and vomited constantly for a few days. Eventually he vomited blood and became critical. The captain contacted a friend for help via email and eventually the cruise ship was diverted to help rescue the crew member. You can see from the film clip that the seas were 8-10 feet and meeting the boat to offload the passenger was very difficult. What is not shown is that the lifeboat damaged the bowsprit on the sailboat making it impossible for them to raise any sails. Doctors on the cruise ship said that the crew member was very close to death and had lost an enormous amount of blood. Later it was determined that he had ruptured veins in his esophagus which caused the bleeding. He did recover completely in short order in a hospital in Panama after transfusion. The cruise line charged the crew member $5k for the pickup. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0zagWlEZn8 Greg and Susan Han Allegria -- Krogen Whaleback #16 Henny Youngman - "If at first you don't succeed... so much for skydiving."

Incredible job by the Princess crew. I am also incredibly disappointed by the remarks posted on YouTube by the crew of the s/v Illusions. Of course it was a dangerous rescue and clearly conditions that such a small sailboat should have not been sailing in. If the vessel was damaged to such a great degree that the remaining crew were left in "extreme danger", they should have hopped on the rescue boat when it was right in front of them and sold their little sailboat to the insurance company. Further, the captain of the Illusions should have lowered his sails to help in the rescue effort. This would have helped keep the boat from bobbing around like a cork in the ocean. If he would have done that simple task and kept the boat pointed in one direction instead of wallowing back and fourth 45 degrees to either side, the crew of the rescue boat would have probably had much less of a life threatening challenge on their hands. -Ryan -----Original Message----- From: trawlers-and-trawlering-bounces@lists.samurai.com [mailto:trawlers-and-trawlering-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of Gregory Han Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 4:51 PM To: trawlers; AGLCA Subject: T&T: Rescue of Sick Crew menber in Carribean by Coral Princess The link below shows video shot by cruise ship passenger of the rescue at sea by the Coral Princess of a friend of mine from Key Biscayne YC who is the captain of Illusion. They had traveled to Cartegena Columbia for a several month stay and he was on the return trip. The crew member became seasick and vomited constantly for a few days. Eventually he vomited blood and became critical. The captain contacted a friend for help via email and eventually the cruise ship was diverted to help rescue the crew member. You can see from the film clip that the seas were 8-10 feet and meeting the boat to offload the passenger was very difficult. What is not shown is that the lifeboat damaged the bowsprit on the sailboat making it impossible for them to raise any sails. Doctors on the cruise ship said that the crew member was very close to death and had lost an enormous amount of blood. Later it was determined that he had ruptured veins in his esophagus which caused the bleeding. He did recover completely in short order in a hospital in Panama after transfusion. The cruise line charged the crew member $5k for the pickup. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0zagWlEZn8 Greg and Susan Han Allegria -- Krogen Whaleback #16 Henny Youngman - "If at first you don't succeed... so much for skydiving." _______________________________________________ http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change email address, etc) go to: http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/trawlers-and-trawlering Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited.

I can tell you as a sailor for 30 years that lower that main would have increased the roll on the sail boat and caused even more issues. That sail did help to steady the boat even though it did not look like it. Been in those seas and know full well that the LAST thing you want to do is take down all sails. There is no way in those seas that anyone would keep the boat pointing in one direction unless it is under sail and under way. The waves and swells would have quickly over powered it. It is easy to speculate sitting at the computer watching a video. But if you have been out there you have a much better appreciation for the job both crews did. Best thing that sailboat skipper could do is hold course and speed and keep the boat under control while letting the more powerful and maneuverable rescue boat do the work. Chuck To follow our adventures, go to http://trawler-beach-house.blogspot.com/ http://sea-trek.blogspot.com/ --- On Fri, 12/26/08, Ryan R. Healy <ryan.healy@healyautogroup.com> wrote: > From: Ryan R. Healy <ryan.healy@healyautogroup.com> > Subject: Re: T&T: Rescue of Sick Crew menber in Carribean by Coral Princess > To: "'Gregory Han'" <hangreg@gmail.com>, "'trawlers'" <trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com>, "'AGLCA'" <AGLCA@googlegroups.com> > Date: Friday, December 26, 2008, 6:16 PM > Incredible job by the Princess crew. > > I am also incredibly disappointed by the remarks posted on > YouTube by the > crew of the s/v Illusions. Of course it was a dangerous > rescue and clearly > conditions that such a small sailboat should have not been > sailing in. > > If the vessel was damaged to such a great degree that the > remaining crew > were left in "extreme danger", they should have > hopped on the rescue boat > when it was right in front of them and sold their little > sailboat to the > insurance company. > > Further, the captain of the Illusions should have lowered > his sails to help > in the rescue effort. This would have helped keep the boat > from bobbing > around like a cork in the ocean. If he would have done > that simple task and > kept the boat pointed in one direction instead of wallowing > back and fourth > 45 degrees to either side, the crew of the rescue boat > would have probably > had much less of a life threatening challenge on their > hands. > > -Ryan

The sheet wasn't even trimmed -- just flapping in the breeze which doesn't help out in the least bit, as evidenced by the video. If he was going to keep the sails up during a rescue attempt like that, then he should have kept the sails trimmed, on speed and on course and let the rescue vessel come alongside. But to sit there and flounder around with the main flapping away only served to make a difficult rescue even more hazardous. -Ryan -----Original Message----- From: trawlers-and-trawlering-bounces@lists.samurai.com [mailto:trawlers-and-trawlering-bounces@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of Chuck and Susan Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 5:28 PM To: Trawler and Trawlering Subject: Re: T&T: Rescue of Sick Crew menber in Carribean by Coral Princess I can tell you as a sailor for 30 years that lower that main would have increased the roll on the sail boat and caused even more issues. That sail did help to steady the boat even though it did not look like it. Been in those seas and know full well that the LAST thing you want to do is take down all sails. There is no way in those seas that anyone would keep the boat pointing in one direction unless it is under sail and under way. The waves and swells would have quickly over powered it. It is easy to speculate sitting at the computer watching a video. But if you have been out there you have a much better appreciation for the job both crews did. Best thing that sailboat skipper could do is hold course and speed and keep the boat under control while letting the more powerful and maneuverable rescue boat do the work. Chuck To follow our adventures, go to http://trawler-beach-house.blogspot.com/ http://sea-trek.blogspot.com/ --- On Fri, 12/26/08, Ryan R. Healy <ryan.healy@healyautogroup.com> wrote: > From: Ryan R. Healy <ryan.healy@healyautogroup.com> > Subject: Re: T&T: Rescue of Sick Crew menber in Carribean by Coral Princess > To: "'Gregory Han'" <hangreg@gmail.com>, "'trawlers'" <trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com>, "'AGLCA'" <AGLCA@googlegroups.com> > Date: Friday, December 26, 2008, 6:16 PM > Incredible job by the Princess crew. > > I am also incredibly disappointed by the remarks posted on > YouTube by the > crew of the s/v Illusions. Of course it was a dangerous > rescue and clearly > conditions that such a small sailboat should have not been > sailing in. > > If the vessel was damaged to such a great degree that the > remaining crew > were left in "extreme danger", they should have > hopped on the rescue boat > when it was right in front of them and sold their little > sailboat to the > insurance company. > > Further, the captain of the Illusions should have lowered > his sails to help > in the rescue effort. This would have helped keep the boat > from bobbing > around like a cork in the ocean. If he would have done > that simple task and > kept the boat pointed in one direction instead of wallowing > back and fourth > 45 degrees to either side, the crew of the rescue boat > would have probably > had much less of a life threatening challenge on their > hands. > > -Ryan _______________________________________________ http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change email address, etc) go to: http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/trawlers-and-trawlering Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited.

As I said if you have never been there you just don't know. You luff the sails when you want to slow the boat down and tighten sheets when you need to get moving again. If the rescue craft says slow down, you let the sails flog. I have to ask how often you have sailed in those conditions and how many rescues have you been involved in? We have sailed in those conditions so I can speak first hand. We have been involved in rescues in adverse conditions and can speak first hand. As for being out in that weather, have you never left on a great forecast and have the weather slam shut on you? If you have never had that experience then you have never done any offshore cruising. We have tens of thousands of miles under our keel in every imaginable conditions. It is wonderful how folks can sit at a computer and criticize. Unless you have been there and done that you have no idea what needs to be done in those circumstances. I guess my question to you is, are you or have you ever been in those circumstances personally? Chuck To follow our adventures, go to http://trawler-beach-house.blogspot.com/ http://sea-trek.blogspot.com/ --- On Fri, 12/26/08, Ryan R. Healy <ryan.healy@healyautogroup.com> wrote: > From: Ryan R. Healy <ryan.healy@healyautogroup.com> > Subject: RE: T&T: Rescue of Sick Crew menber in Carribean by Coral Princess > To: sea_trek_2000@yahoo.com, "'Trawler and Trawlering'" <trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com> > Date: Friday, December 26, 2008, 7:02 PM > The sheet wasn't even trimmed -- just flapping in the > breeze which doesn't > help out in the least bit, as evidenced by the video. > > If he was going to keep the sails up during a rescue > attempt like that, then > he should have kept the sails trimmed, on speed and on > course and let the > rescue vessel come alongside. But to sit there and > flounder around with the > main flapping away only served to make a difficult rescue > even more > hazardous. > > -Ryan > > > -----Original Message----- > From: trawlers-and-trawlering-bounces@lists.samurai.com > [mailto:trawlers-and-trawlering-bounces@lists.samurai.com] > On Behalf Of > Chuck and Susan > Sent: Friday, December 26, 2008 5:28 PM > To: Trawler and Trawlering > Subject: Re: T&T: Rescue of Sick Crew menber in > Carribean by Coral Princess > > I can tell you as a sailor for 30 years that lower that > main would have > increased the roll on the sail boat and caused even more > issues. That sail > did help to steady the boat even though it did not look > like it. Been in > those seas and know full well that the LAST thing you want > to do is take > down all sails. There is no way in those seas that anyone > would keep the > boat pointing in one direction unless it is under sail and > under way. The > waves and swells would have quickly over powered it. It is > easy to speculate > sitting at the computer watching a video. But if you have > been out there you > have a much better appreciation for the job both crews did. > Best thing that > sailboat skipper could do is hold course and speed and keep > the boat under > control while letting the more powerful and maneuverable > rescue boat do the > work. Chuck > > To follow our adventures, go to > > http://trawler-beach-house.blogspot.com/ > > http://sea-trek.blogspot.com/ > > > --- On Fri, 12/26/08, Ryan R. Healy > <ryan.healy@healyautogroup.com> wrote: > > > From: Ryan R. Healy > <ryan.healy@healyautogroup.com> > > Subject: Re: T&T: Rescue of Sick Crew menber in > Carribean by Coral > Princess > > To: "'Gregory Han'" > <hangreg@gmail.com>, "'trawlers'" > <trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com>, > "'AGLCA'" > <AGLCA@googlegroups.com> > > Date: Friday, December 26, 2008, 6:16 PM > > Incredible job by the Princess crew. > > > > I am also incredibly disappointed by the remarks > posted on > > YouTube by the > > crew of the s/v Illusions. Of course it was a > dangerous > > rescue and clearly > > conditions that such a small sailboat should have not > been > > sailing in. > > > > If the vessel was damaged to such a great degree that > the > > remaining crew > > were left in "extreme danger", they should > have > > hopped on the rescue boat > > when it was right in front of them and sold their > little > > sailboat to the > > insurance company. > > > > Further, the captain of the Illusions should have > lowered > > his sails to help > > in the rescue effort. This would have helped keep the > boat > > from bobbing > > around like a cork in the ocean. If he would have > done > > that simple task and > > kept the boat pointed in one direction instead of > wallowing > > back and fourth > > 45 degrees to either side, the crew of the rescue boat > > would have probably > > had much less of a life threatening challenge on their > > hands. > > > > -Ryan > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get > password, change > email address, etc) go to: > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/trawlers-and-trawlering > > Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of > Water World > Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited.