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Power with Wind, The Return of the Motorsailer

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brian eiland
Sat, Dec 20, 2008 10:33 PM

...a letter I just recently sent the author of this article in Passagemaker
Bill Jacobs, Contributing Editor, PassageMaker magazine

I really appreciated reading your article on "Power with Wind, The Return of
the Motorsailer" in the Dec '08 issue of Passagemaker magazine. Back in the
early days of this magazine I inquired on several occasions about submitting
some material on the same subject of motorsailers, but it was rejected at
that
time as being outside their scope of subject matter due to it's inclusion of
a
vessel "with sails"...no 'sailing vessels' allowed. I'm glad the magazine has
awakened to the realities of this new world fuel situation, and given
recognition to the old concept of the 'motorsailer'.
I'm judging from the internet sites that you referenced and quoted in the
article that you've done a fair bit of web browsing on the subject. This
being
the case, I would also assume that you have likely run across some of the
discussions that I've contributed on the subject? Here are a few of those
forum discussions in case you did not find them:

Motor/Sailer Design, Expedition Yacht
http://www.runningtideyachts.com/motorsailing/

Motor Sailers
http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/motorsailers/motor-sailers-501.html

Displacement Glider, PowerKeel, etc
<http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/powerboats/displacement-glider-powerkeel-et
c-12512.html#post95771>

Motor Sailers by Philip Rhodes & John Alden
<http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/general-sailing-discussion/6710-motor-sail
ers-philip-rhodes-john-alden.html>

<http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/boat-design/motor-sailers-philip-rhodes-joh
n-alden-16721.html>

Obviously I was very taken with the motorsailer concept as well. My early
foray (66 years old) into the yachting field was met with most publications
of
that time making numerous mentions of the term "motorsailer"....very popular
term at the time. Sadly the concept has been neglected for so long.

I confess I was a little disappointed that you failed to mention, nor make
reference to, the possibilities of multihulled motorsailers, i.e.;

Motor/Sailing Catamaran Concept
<http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/motorsailers/motor-sailers-501-2.html#post4
3251>

Monohull verses Multihull powersailers / motorsailers
<http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/motorsailers/monohull-verses-multihull-powe
rsailers-motorsailers-4499.html>

Gamefishing for Sail Under Sail (and power)
<http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/general-sailing-discussion/1548-gamefishin
g-sail-under-sail-power.html>

,But I commend you on mentioning the kite-power possibilities. I've started
this subject thread on several design forums (and particularly at the urging
of Guillermo):
New Age Trawler/Motorsailer; Kite assisted PowerYacht
<http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/general-yachting-discussion/8127-new-age-t
rawler-motorsailer-kite-assisted-poweryacht.html>

<http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/boat-design/new-age-trawler-motorsailer-kit
e-assisted-poweryacht-20319.html>

,,,And I do realize that you couldn't cover the entire subject matter in only
one article.

I want to make reference to your article on both boat forums, and include a
link to Passagemaker magazine. It might also be nice that there existed a
permanent web location  where the forum members could go and read a copy of
the article . But as happens far to often, many of them may not be able to
gain access to the article at some point in the future when a linked-site is
taken down. Would you consider placing a PFD article into the forum
discussions?...or is this not allowed in the publishing world?

Thanks again for your article on the subject matter,
Brian Eiland

PS: It was also very interesting that your motorsailer article was followed
immediately with an article on Steve Dashew's exciting new passagemaker, Wind
Horse,....a power
vessel to contrast with the sailing vessels that he has promoted for
years...nice contrast, and a wealth of interesting material.

...a letter I just recently sent the author of this article in Passagemaker Bill Jacobs, Contributing Editor, PassageMaker magazine I really appreciated reading your article on "Power with Wind, The Return of the Motorsailer" in the Dec '08 issue of Passagemaker magazine. Back in the early days of this magazine I inquired on several occasions about submitting some material on the same subject of motorsailers, but it was rejected at that time as being outside their scope of subject matter due to it's inclusion of a vessel "with sails"...no 'sailing vessels' allowed. I'm glad the magazine has awakened to the realities of this new world fuel situation, and given recognition to the old concept of the 'motorsailer'. I'm judging from the internet sites that you referenced and quoted in the article that you've done a fair bit of web browsing on the subject. This being the case, I would also assume that you have likely run across some of the discussions that I've contributed on the subject? Here are a few of those forum discussions in case you did not find them: Motor/Sailer Design, Expedition Yacht <http://www.runningtideyachts.com/motorsailing/> Motor Sailers <http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/motorsailers/motor-sailers-501.html> Displacement Glider, PowerKeel, etc <http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/powerboats/displacement-glider-powerkeel-et c-12512.html#post95771> Motor Sailers by Philip Rhodes & John Alden <http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/general-sailing-discussion/6710-motor-sail ers-philip-rhodes-john-alden.html> <http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/boat-design/motor-sailers-philip-rhodes-joh n-alden-16721.html> Obviously I was very taken with the motorsailer concept as well. My early foray (66 years old) into the yachting field was met with most publications of that time making numerous mentions of the term "motorsailer"....very popular term at the time. Sadly the concept has been neglected for so long. I confess I was a little disappointed that you failed to mention, nor make reference to, the possibilities of multihulled motorsailers, i.e.; Motor/Sailing Catamaran Concept <http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/motorsailers/motor-sailers-501-2.html#post4 3251> Monohull verses Multihull powersailers / motorsailers <http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/motorsailers/monohull-verses-multihull-powe rsailers-motorsailers-4499.html> Gamefishing for Sail Under Sail (and power) <http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/general-sailing-discussion/1548-gamefishin g-sail-under-sail-power.html> ,But I commend you on mentioning the kite-power possibilities. I've started this subject thread on several design forums (and particularly at the urging of Guillermo): New Age Trawler/Motorsailer; Kite assisted PowerYacht <http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/general-yachting-discussion/8127-new-age-t rawler-motorsailer-kite-assisted-poweryacht.html> <http://www.boatdesign.net/forums/boat-design/new-age-trawler-motorsailer-kit e-assisted-poweryacht-20319.html> ,,,And I do realize that you couldn't cover the entire subject matter in only one article. I want to make reference to your article on both boat forums, and include a link to Passagemaker magazine. It might also be nice that there existed a *permanent web location* where the forum members could go and read a copy of the article . But as happens far to often, many of them may not be able to gain access to the article at some point in the future when a linked-site is taken down. Would you consider placing a PFD article into the forum discussions?...or is this not allowed in the publishing world? Thanks again for your article on the subject matter, Brian Eiland PS: It was also very interesting that your motorsailer article was followed immediately with an article on Steve Dashew's exciting new passagemaker, Wind Horse,....a power vessel to contrast with the sailing vessels that he has promoted for years...nice contrast, and a wealth of interesting material.