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Dfmucci
Sat, Oct 27, 2018 1:39 AM

Hi Folks,
I'm looking for some advice from those who have teak and love it! I am a new owner of a 42 GG. I have stripped and sanded the rails and other teak on the deck and flybridge and she looks great. Opinions please, I am considering coating the teak rather than leaving it natural. I don't mind working on the teak, just want to her to look magnificent!
Suggestions on coatings, Cetol, Bristol Finish, Teak oil?
What do you think? All responses appreciated.
Dom Mucci

Hi Folks, I'm looking for some advice from those who have teak and love it! I am a new owner of a 42 GG. I have stripped and sanded the rails and other teak on the deck and flybridge and she looks great. Opinions please, I am considering coating the teak rather than leaving it natural. I don't mind working on the teak, just want to her to look magnificent! Suggestions on coatings, Cetol, Bristol Finish, Teak oil? What do you think? All responses appreciated. Dom Mucci
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Ted or Sally
Sat, Oct 27, 2018 2:43 AM

This question is right up there with one or two engines? Best anchor?
Diesel fuel additives and filter sizes.

Folks are passionate about what works for them.

I like Epiphanes and Home Depot polyurethane.  I've had good luck with both.

And i like my Supermax anchor!

Ted G
DeFever 44. Amici

On Fri, Oct 26, 2018, 10:31 PM Dfmucci via Trawlers-and-Trawlering <
trawlers@lists.trawlering.com> wrote:

Hi Folks,
I'm looking for some advice from those who have teak and love it! I am a
new owner of a 42 GG. I have stripped and sanded the rails and other teak
on the deck and flybridge and she looks great. Opinions please, I am
considering coating the teak rather than leaving it natural. I don't mind
working on the teak, just want to her to look magnificent!
Suggestions on coatings, Cetol, Bristol Finish, Teak oil?
What do you think? All responses appreciated.
Dom Mucci


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This question is right up there with one or two engines? Best anchor? Diesel fuel additives and filter sizes. Folks are passionate about what works for them. I like Epiphanes and Home Depot polyurethane. I've had good luck with both. And i like my Supermax anchor! Ted G DeFever 44. Amici On Fri, Oct 26, 2018, 10:31 PM Dfmucci via Trawlers-and-Trawlering < trawlers@lists.trawlering.com> wrote: > Hi Folks, > I'm looking for some advice from those who have teak and love it! I am a > new owner of a 42 GG. I have stripped and sanded the rails and other teak > on the deck and flybridge and she looks great. Opinions please, I am > considering coating the teak rather than leaving it natural. I don't mind > working on the teak, just want to her to look magnificent! > Suggestions on coatings, Cetol, Bristol Finish, Teak oil? > What do you think? All responses appreciated. > Dom Mucci > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers_lists.trawlering.com > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change > email address, etc) go to: > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers_lists.trawlering.com > Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World > Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited. >
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Steve Sipe
Sat, Oct 27, 2018 3:54 AM

For decks, let them bare, wash them with saltwater, don't regularly
scrub them with cleaners or you'll remove the soft fibers from the wood
and it will deteriorate faster. Saltwater is hygroscopic and keeps the
planking from drying out, so it lasts longer.  Teak oil will look great
for about 5 weeks after which it will start to attract dirt, get gummy,
then look like crap. You'll have to remove it with strong detergent, and
it's will cause the teak to deteriorate.

For the rails, if you really want magnificent, IMHO the only route there
is multiple coats of varnish then refreshed every 9-12 months BEFORE it
starts to look like it needs it. If you wait too long, it gets ahead of
you and is doubly hard to get back.

Cetol has its proponents, I'm not one of them. I've seen lots of
applications and it looks OK. It's easy to apply, easy to touch up, but
doesn't have the depth of shine anywhere close to multiple coats of
Epifanes. Comparing: Cetol=Nice!  Epifanes=Wow!

I do my teak cap rails with 3-4 coats of CPES, light sanding, then a tie
coat of CPES with the 1st coat of Epifanes applied before it cures to
get a good chemical bond. Then apply at least 8 coats of Epifanes
strained and thinned ~15%, wet sand between coats with 400 grit. (I did
15 coats). Last coat early in the morning when the weather is right- no
wind, no bugs, low humidity, no dust, no dog hair, cool temps. Jenn foam
brushes. Here's how it looks as it progresses.....
http://www.maerin.net/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=623&g2_page=14

It's been said I'm a bit over the top fussy, but if you want it to look
magnificent, there are no shortcuts.  EXCEPT... the Awlgrip products
like Awlwood. I've not used it, but I've seen it, looks fantastic-
better than my best Epifanes result. I refinished caprails on a 48
Selene I did work on, the owners had a guy in Lauderdale re-do them
because they neglected to refresh the coating for 18 months and I wasn't
close by. It looked really great, and I spoke to others who had it
applied and they were getting up to 3 yrs before refreshing. Doesn't
require as many coats. I don't know that I'd recommend it as a first
attempt. My first varnish jobs looked pretty awful!  "Brightwork" the
art of Wood Finishing  by Rebecca Wittman is an excellent guide.

Varnishing is a bit of an art form, it takes LOTS (years) of practice to
get the technique down to get a real mirror smooth finish. There are
guys (and girls) in Lauderdale who do nothing else, their work is
perfection.  The key is prep, conditions, and quick application. The
more you monkey with it, the worse it looks! Do it in the wind, UGH!
Terrible! If it rains on it before it's dry enough, it'll "blush"- turn
milky. No salvation for that, sand it off down 2-3 coats back, and start
again. Bummer. Bugs always land then crawl across the surface leaving a
trail to sand out.


Steve Sipe
Solo 4303 /Maerin/
Lying St. Simons

On 10/26/2018 9:39 PM, Dfmucci via Trawlers-and-Trawlering wrote:

Hi Folks,
I'm looking for some advice from those who have teak and love it! I am a new owner of a 42 GG. I have stripped and sanded the rails and other teak on the deck and flybridge and she looks great. Opinions please, I am considering coating the teak rather than leaving it natural. I don't mind working on the teak, just want to her to look magnificent!
Suggestions on coatings, Cetol, Bristol Finish, Teak oil?
What do you think? All responses appreciated.
Dom Mucci


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For decks, let them bare, wash them with saltwater, don't regularly scrub them with cleaners or you'll remove the soft fibers from the wood and it will deteriorate faster. Saltwater is hygroscopic and keeps the planking from drying out, so it lasts longer.  Teak oil will look great for about 5 weeks after which it will start to attract dirt, get gummy, then look like crap. You'll have to remove it with strong detergent, and it's will cause the teak to deteriorate. For the rails, if you really want magnificent, IMHO the only route there is multiple coats of varnish then refreshed every 9-12 months BEFORE it starts to look like it needs it. If you wait too long, it gets ahead of you and is doubly hard to get back. Cetol has its proponents, I'm not one of them. I've seen lots of applications and it looks OK. It's easy to apply, easy to touch up, but doesn't have the depth of shine anywhere close to multiple coats of Epifanes. Comparing: Cetol=Nice!  Epifanes=Wow! I do my teak cap rails with 3-4 coats of CPES, light sanding, then a tie coat of CPES with the 1st coat of Epifanes applied before it cures to get a good chemical bond. Then apply at least 8 coats of Epifanes strained and thinned ~15%, wet sand between coats with 400 grit. (I did 15 coats). Last coat early in the morning when the weather is right- no wind, no bugs, low humidity, no dust, no dog hair, cool temps. Jenn foam brushes. Here's how it looks as it progresses..... <http://www.maerin.net/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=623&g2_page=14> It's been said I'm a bit over the top fussy, but if you want it to look magnificent, there are no shortcuts.  EXCEPT... the Awlgrip products like Awlwood. I've not used it, but I've seen it, looks fantastic- better than my best Epifanes result. I refinished caprails on a 48 Selene I did work on, the owners had a guy in Lauderdale re-do them because they neglected to refresh the coating for 18 months and I wasn't close by. It looked really great, and I spoke to others who had it applied and they were getting up to 3 yrs before refreshing. Doesn't require as many coats. I don't know that I'd recommend it as a first attempt. My first varnish jobs looked pretty awful!  "Brightwork" the art of Wood Finishing  by Rebecca Wittman is an excellent guide. Varnishing is a bit of an art form, it takes LOTS (years) of practice to get the technique down to get a real mirror smooth finish. There are guys (and girls) in Lauderdale who do nothing else, their work is perfection.  The key is prep, conditions, and quick application. The more you monkey with it, the worse it looks! Do it in the wind, UGH! Terrible! If it rains on it before it's dry enough, it'll "blush"- turn milky. No salvation for that, sand it off down 2-3 coats back, and start again. Bummer. Bugs always land then crawl across the surface leaving a trail to sand out. ------- Steve Sipe Solo 4303 /Maerin/ Lying St. Simons On 10/26/2018 9:39 PM, Dfmucci via Trawlers-and-Trawlering wrote: > Hi Folks, > I'm looking for some advice from those who have teak and love it! I am a new owner of a 42 GG. I have stripped and sanded the rails and other teak on the deck and flybridge and she looks great. Opinions please, I am considering coating the teak rather than leaving it natural. I don't mind working on the teak, just want to her to look magnificent! > Suggestions on coatings, Cetol, Bristol Finish, Teak oil? > What do you think? All responses appreciated. > Dom Mucci > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers_lists.trawlering.com > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change email address, etc) go to: http://lists.trawlering.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers_lists.trawlering.com > Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World > Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited. > >