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Bill Fleenor
Sat, Aug 20, 2005 10:54 PM

I'm looking for some advice on cooking appliances.  I expect we will never
live aboard and will actually spend most of our time marina hopping and
eating out.  Consequently I don't think we would be cooking an awful lot.
We don't cook too much here at home now.

Would the group like to comment on installing a microwave/convection
combination versus a separate microwave and conventional oven?

Thanks.

Bill Fleenor

future "Double-Wide"

I'm looking for some advice on cooking appliances. I expect we will never live aboard and will actually spend most of our time marina hopping and eating out. Consequently I don't think we would be cooking an awful lot. We don't cook too much here at home now. Would the group like to comment on installing a microwave/convection combination versus a separate microwave and conventional oven? Thanks. Bill Fleenor future "Double-Wide"
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nunas@nunas.com
Sun, Aug 21, 2005 4:53 AM

Bill,

We have both a M/W-Convection and a propane stove/oven on AKAMA, and use
them both.  But, we nearly never use the oven in the cooker, only the
burners.  If we had it to do over I'd install a microwave/convection unit
and a 4-burner cook top with no oven.  The saved space would be sued for
storage, which is what we mostly use the oven for anyway. (Old timers on the
list will laugh at this, as I once opined that a boat was no place for
propane <vbg>).

We live aboard full time and have for years; we are currently making our way
around the world.  So, perhaps our use requirements are a bit different from
yours.

BTW, when you install the M/W oven, you will probably build it into your
cabinetry, like nearly every boat we have seen.  This is not a good idea as
the M/W needs cooling air circulating.  We built ours in and solved the
problem by taking the M/W apart, and finding the circuit that runs the oven
light.  We put a pair of wires on this and ran it out the back of the oven
to a socket, being careful to do so in the same manner and following the
same route as existing power wires (yes, this voids the warranty; no, it did
not add to any emission...we measured it).  On the left side of the M/W
there is a ventilation grill in the cabinetry.  And there is another one on
the right side, inside a cabinet with a louvered door. On the way into this
cabinet we installed a 120-volt muffin fan (like the ones in computers but
AC operated).  The fan is plugged into that new outlet on the back of the
microwave.  The one thing that comes on every time is that little light in
the M/W.  So, whenever the M/W is cooking, the fan automatically comes on
and keeps the circuitry cool.  As a bonus, that cabinet in the right side is
often used as a plate warmer, as the fan removes considerable heat.

Good luck!

Maurice & Louise-Ann Nunas
M/Y AKAMA, KK-48 Whaleback
Currently near Auckland NZ

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Fleenor [mailto:wefleenor@ucdavis.edu]
Sent: Sunday, 21-Aug-05 10:54
To: trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com
Subject: T&T: Galley advice

I'm looking for some advice on cooking appliances.  I expect we will never
live aboard and will actually spend most of our time marina hopping and
eating out.  Consequently I don't think we would be cooking an awful lot.
We don't cook too much here at home now.

Would the group like to comment on installing a microwave/convection
combination versus a separate microwave and conventional oven?

Thanks.

Bill Fleenor

future "Double-Wide"


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Bill, We have both a M/W-Convection and a propane stove/oven on AKAMA, and use them both. But, we nearly never use the oven in the cooker, only the burners. If we had it to do over I'd install a microwave/convection unit and a 4-burner cook top with no oven. The saved space would be sued for storage, which is what we mostly use the oven for anyway. (Old timers on the list will laugh at this, as I once opined that a boat was no place for propane <vbg>). We live aboard full time and have for years; we are currently making our way around the world. So, perhaps our use requirements are a bit different from yours. BTW, when you install the M/W oven, you will probably build it into your cabinetry, like nearly every boat we have seen. This is not a good idea as the M/W needs cooling air circulating. We built ours in and solved the problem by taking the M/W apart, and finding the circuit that runs the oven light. We put a pair of wires on this and ran it out the back of the oven to a socket, being careful to do so in the same manner and following the same route as existing power wires (yes, this voids the warranty; no, it did not add to any emission...we measured it). On the left side of the M/W there is a ventilation grill in the cabinetry. And there is another one on the right side, inside a cabinet with a louvered door. On the way into this cabinet we installed a 120-volt muffin fan (like the ones in computers but AC operated). The fan is plugged into that new outlet on the back of the microwave. The one thing that comes on every time is that little light in the M/W. So, whenever the M/W is cooking, the fan automatically comes on and keeps the circuitry cool. As a bonus, that cabinet in the right side is often used as a plate warmer, as the fan removes considerable heat. Good luck! Maurice & Louise-Ann Nunas M/Y AKAMA, KK-48 Whaleback Currently near Auckland NZ -----Original Message----- From: Bill Fleenor [mailto:wefleenor@ucdavis.edu] Sent: Sunday, 21-Aug-05 10:54 To: trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com Subject: T&T: Galley advice I'm looking for some advice on cooking appliances. I expect we will never live aboard and will actually spend most of our time marina hopping and eating out. Consequently I don't think we would be cooking an awful lot. We don't cook too much here at home now. Would the group like to comment on installing a microwave/convection combination versus a separate microwave and conventional oven? Thanks. Bill Fleenor future "Double-Wide" _______________________________________________ http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering To unsubscribe send email to trawlers-and-trawlering-request@lists.samurai.com with the word UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else in the subject or body of the message. Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited.
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elnav@uniserve.com
Sun, Aug 21, 2005 7:56 PM

Quoting Bill Fleenor wefleenor@ucdavis.edu:

I'm looking for some advice on cooking appliances.  I expect we will never
live aboard and will actually spend most of our time marina hopping and
eating out.  Consequently I don't think we would be cooking an awful lot.
We don't cook too much here at home now.>
Bill Fleenor

REPLY
I'm always looking at counter top appliances with a view to how well it might
adapt to  boat use and being run on an inverter.

George Forman is marketing a series of grills cookers and such that really look
to be energy efficient and compact for use on a counter top.
when ot in use they can be stowed out of the way.

Especially when you don;t cook frequenty this may be a better approach than
havign built in cooking appliances that always use up counter space.

Arild

Quoting Bill Fleenor <wefleenor@ucdavis.edu>: > I'm looking for some advice on cooking appliances. I expect we will never > live aboard and will actually spend most of our time marina hopping and > eating out. Consequently I don't think we would be cooking an awful lot. > We don't cook too much here at home now.> > Bill Fleenor REPLY I'm always looking at counter top appliances with a view to how well it might adapt to boat use and being run on an inverter. George Forman is marketing a series of grills cookers and such that really look to be energy efficient and compact for use on a counter top. when ot in use they can be stowed out of the way. Especially when you don;t cook frequenty this may be a better approach than havign built in cooking appliances that always use up counter space. Arild
JP
Jeffrey Petty
Sun, Aug 21, 2005 8:53 PM

Greetings,

We are considering the 43 Gulfstar for purchase as a live-aboard and coastal
cruiser for Southern California.  I would appreciate advice and thoughts
from anyone with knowledge or experience regarding this vessel.

Thanks in advance!

r/ Jeff


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Keith
Mon, Aug 22, 2005 12:26 PM

Those things are great if you have the power to operate them. Either shore
power or a genset would do fine. I think in practical application, you won't
use the oven much. I have a propane stove/oven on my boat, and on this one
as well as others, we hardly ever use the oven. Mostly microwave and the
propane grill outside on the aft deck. Next the burners on the stove, and
lastly the oven.

Keith


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Bill Fleenor" wefleenor@ucdavis.edu

Would the group like to comment on installing a microwave/convection
combination versus a separate microwave and conventional oven?

Those things are great if you have the power to operate them. Either shore power or a genset would do fine. I think in practical application, you won't use the oven much. I have a propane stove/oven on my boat, and on this one as well as others, we hardly ever use the oven. Mostly microwave and the propane grill outside on the aft deck. Next the burners on the stove, and lastly the oven. Keith _____ When someone asks you, "A penny for your thoughts" and you put your two cents in ...what happens to the other penny? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Fleenor" <wefleenor@ucdavis.edu> > > > > Would the group like to comment on installing a microwave/convection > combination versus a separate microwave and conventional oven?
KP
Keith Pleas
Mon, Aug 22, 2005 4:31 PM

George Forman is marketing a series of grills cookers and such that really

look to be energy efficient and compact for use on a counter top.

We used one of these this summer and while I didn't do the actual cooking
{smile}, I was surprised at the variety of uses for this - even pancakes!
Cleanup's a snap.

Other than a microwave, the other galley appliance I wouldn't do without is
an Insta-Hot. Making tea, coffee or whatever is the obvious use. But for
washing up, a shot of boiling water and a few ounces of tap water is just
the ticket.

Keith

>>George Forman is marketing a series of grills cookers and such that really look to be energy efficient and compact for use on a counter top. We used one of these this summer and while I didn't do the actual cooking {smile}, I was surprised at the variety of uses for this - even pancakes! Cleanup's a snap. Other than a microwave, the other galley appliance I wouldn't do without is an Insta-Hot. Making tea, coffee or whatever is the obvious use. But for washing up, a shot of boiling water and a few ounces of tap water is just the ticket. Keith