HP5372A screen-dumps
Hi folks!
As I was scanning the web for stuff about HP5372A (just for fun), I found your
little email list in the form of a question from Poul-Henning Kamp (Hej!)
regarding what to do to get a screen-dump from a HP5372A.
There is basically two strategies:
-
Use the builtin hardcopy function hidden behind the "Print" key (or PRIN
GPIB command), requiring a HP-IB printer (HP 2225A ThinkJet Printer) in
Talk Only. -
Use the builtin hardcopy function hidden behind the "Shift-Print" key (or
PLOT GPIB command), requiring a HP-IB plotter (HP-GL naturally). -
Learn the full lovely set of GPIB commands to pull the data out of the
5372 engine and post-process it and shape it at your own taste.
I do the last one, since the 5372 is lacking the programmer freedom of the 4195
but has a nice engine for its time and I need to measure a number of things the
5372 doesn't do naitively.
Ah well!
OK, so after that a quick little introduction then. OK, I'll better admitt that
I've got a touch of the time-nut sickness too. I keep a R&S Rubidium clock
running and it seems OK. I also has the reference clock of an AXE-10 PBX
sitting there. No GPS clock currently, but I really would like to lock up the
Rubidium or one of the ovens to the GPS in lack of better source. No Cs or H
yeat. ;( A few counters and other odd bits.
Cheers,
Magnus
Hi, Magnus --
You might give this a try:
http://www.speakeasy.net/~jmiles1/ke5fx/7470.htm
If it works, let me know and I'll add the 5372A to the list of supported
devices.
73 -- john, KE5FX
There is basically two strategies:
-
Use the builtin hardcopy function hidden behind the "Print"
key (or PRIN
GPIB command), requiring a HP-IB printer (HP 2225A ThinkJet Printer) in
Talk Only. -
Use the builtin hardcopy function hidden behind the
"Shift-Print" key (or
PLOT GPIB command), requiring a HP-IB plotter (HP-GL naturally).
From: "John Miles" jmiles@pop.net
Subject: RE: [time-nuts] HP5372A screen-dumps
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:02:26 -0700
Message-ID: PKEGJHPHLLBACEOICCBJMEHADKAA.jmiles@pop.net
Hi, Magnus --
Hi John,
Cool and usefull!
If it works, let me know and I'll add the 5372A to the list of supported
devices.
I'll see if I have the spare time in the lab. I'll also need to locate that
Windows laptop with GPIB to see if I can get it to work. We are almost Linux
only in the lab these days. My own lab is also Linux-only I'm afraid. It may
have to wait until the weekend, as we are kind of busy right now.
We have some sort of hack cocked up at work, so the Tek AD007 prints to a
network printer queue, and in there the HPGL gets converted into Postscript
and sends it to the standard printer queue. I have not dug into that hack, but
it is basially an Open Source HPGL tool of some sort wrapped in normal LPR
fluff and magic.
Anyway, if that hack could be made to work on Linux, it would solve several
problems for me!
Cheers,
Magnus
Yep, I wish I had done the whole thing in OpenGL, rather than my homebrew
15,000-lines-of-assembly Windows graphics library. Then it'd just need a
recompile against the National Instruments Linux drivers to work. :(
-- john, KE5FX
I'll see if I have the spare time in the lab. I'll also need to
locate that
Windows laptop with GPIB to see if I can get it to work. We are
almost Linux
only in the lab these days. My own lab is also Linux-only I'm
afraid. It may
have to wait until the weekend, as we are kind of busy right now.
From: "John Miles" jmiles@pop.net
Subject: RE: [time-nuts] HP5372A screen-dumps
Date: Mon, 13 Jun 2005 16:22:18 -0700
Message-ID: PKEGJHPHLLBACEOICCBJIEHBDKAA.jmiles@pop.net
Yep, I wish I had done the whole thing in OpenGL, rather than my homebrew
15,000-lines-of-assembly Windows graphics library. Then it'd just need a
recompile against the National Instruments Linux drivers to work. :(
Indeed. There is a Linux-GPIB project and we are using their stuff at work.
Personally I think that the interface is old and I much more prefer the
VXI-11 RPC based interface. Well thought trough interface and it didn't take me
ages to get up and running altought I was cheating alot. I am expanding on my
VXI-11 hack so that eventually I might have a fully compliant server and client
with the server sitting ontop of the Linux-GPIB stuff.
Cheers,
Magnus
In message 20050614.005240.128311397.cfmd@bredband.net, Magnus Danielson writ
es:
- Learn the full lovely set of GPIB commands to pull the data out of the
5372 engine and post-process it and shape it at your own taste.
I do the last one, since the 5372 is lacking the programmer freedom of the 4195
but has a nice engine for its time and I need to measure a number of things the
5372 doesn't do naitively.
See, my problem is that I don't have a manual :-(
--
Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20
phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956
FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe
Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.
From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" phk@phk.freebsd.dk
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP5372A screen-dumps
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 07:30:14 +0200
Message-ID: 35378.1118727014@critter.freebsd.dk
Hej Poul-Henning,
In message 20050614.005240.128311397.cfmd@bredband.net, Magnus Danielson writ
es:
- Learn the full lovely set of GPIB commands to pull the data out of the
5372 engine and post-process it and shape it at your own taste.
I do the last one, since the 5372 is lacking the programmer freedom of the 4195
but has a nice engine for its time and I need to measure a number of things the
5372 doesn't do naitively.
See, my problem is that I don't have a manual :-(
OK. It seems that Agilent want the manuals in scanned form too. Let's see what
we can arrange.
In the meanwhile, I may be able to toss you some sample programs. I've been
working on a program that attempts to eventually cover the full set of
measurements. I expect that work to accelerate by the end of the week.
Cheers,
Magnus
Magnus Danielson wrote:
See, my problem is that I don't have a manual :-(
OK. It seems that Agilent want the manuals in scanned form too. Let's see what
we can arrange.
In the meanwhile, I may be able to toss you some sample programs. I've been
working on a program that attempts to eventually cover the full set of
measurements. I expect that work to accelerate by the end of the week.
Cheers,
Magnus
Is there enough people who own a manual that could scan a section of it? Perhaps someone with an A3 or
larger scanner doing any pullout pages?
Having scanned the HP 5370B manual
http://www.g8wrb.org.uk/useful-stuff/time/HP-5370B/
I know its a lot of work to do a complete manual with a small scanner, but if several could be
persuaded to do a bit, a electronic manual could be produced.
If the scanning was restricted to user sections, and not service sections, the page count should be a
lot smaller and so the work a lot less.
This seems a logical way of producing electronic copies of manuals.
I know Agilent intend doing this, but you could wait a long time. I get the feeling this is not going
to happen very soon.
PS,
There is HP-Vee driver that does a screen dump.
http://www.doe.carleton.ca/~jaguirre/hp5372A.html
Not sure how useful that would be.
Dr. David Kirkby PhD CEng MIEE,
Senior Research Fellow,
Department of Medical Physics,
Mallet Place Engineering Building,
Gower St,
University College London,
London WC1E 6BT.
Magnus,
I would also be interested in your "sample Programs" I have a 5371A and no
programming manual.
Thanks,
Had, K7MLR
Hej Poul-Henning,
In message 20050614.005240.128311397.cfmd@bredband.net, Magnus
Danielson writ
es:
- Learn the full lovely set of GPIB commands to pull the data out of the
5372 engine and post-process it and shape it at your own taste.
OK. It seems that Agilent want the manuals in scanned form too. Let's see what
we can arrange.
In the meanwhile, I may be able to toss you some sample programs. I've been
working on a program that attempts to eventually cover the full set of
measurements. I expect that work to accelerate by the end of the week.
Cheers,
Magnus
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From: "Dr. David Kirkby" drkirkby@medphys.ucl.ac.uk
Subject: Re: [time-nuts] HP5372A screen-dumps
Date: Tue, 14 Jun 2005 10:23:21 +0100
Message-ID: 42AEA209.8030807@medphys.ucl.ac.uk
David,
Is there enough people who own a manual that could scan a section of it?
I have fairly good copies of the User Manual, Programmers Manual and the
Option 40 Users Manual. It would take some time to scan, but it is doable.
Perhaps someone with an A3 or larger scanner doing any pullout pages?
There are only a few of those. If worse comes to worse, I copy them down in
size and scan the resulting A4s.
Having scanned the HP 5370B manual
http://www.g8wrb.org.uk/useful-stuff/time/HP-5370B/
I know its a lot of work to do a complete manual with a small scanner, but if
several could be persuaded to do a bit, a electronic manual could be
produced.
It is indeed alot of work. It's not first up on my current list of things to
do.
If the scanning was restricted to user sections, and not service sections,
the page count should be a lot smaller and so the work a lot less.
The HP5372A manuals doesn't work like on the classic counters.
This seems a logical way of producing electronic copies of manuals.
I know Agilent intend doing this, but you could wait a long time. I get the
feeling this is not going to happen very soon.
More to the point, will they do Service Manuals? Will we have the EPROM dumps
and OS discs?
Cheers,
Magnus