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Are any available, i.e. electric kettle, coffee maker, toasters ? Dennis __________________________________________________________________ Looking for the perfect gift? Give the gift of Flickr! http://www.flickr.com/gift/

I have seen a good supply at truck stops, sporting goods stores, Wal-Mart, and marine stores. I bought a 12v coffee maker a couple of years ago and I found that it took forever to make coffee and it never really seemed to "perk" properly. It has spent it's life on a garage shelf. I wonder if a small inverter would operate a coffee maker? Alternatives would be to toast in a fry pan, coffee in an old percolator on a cooktop...mine is alcohol/electric or whatever you have for cooking aboard. Bob Clinkenbeard 24' custom trailer trawler "Bobbin Along" Locust Grove, Georgia http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-aboardbobbinalong > Are any available, i.e. electric kettle, coffee > maker, toasters ? > Dennis

We tried a 12v coffee maker on our sail boat - it drew way TOO much current and took over 25 mins to brew - better off using a stove top percolator on the propane grill. Greg Steckel M/Y Different Drummer President 35 Sundeck Frog Mortar Creek, MD www.chesapeakebayboater.com www.fmyc.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Clinkenbeard" <clinkenbeardb@bellsouth.net> To: <trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 4:26 PM Subject: Re: T&T: 12 V DC small appliances? >I have seen a good supply at truck stops, sporting goods stores, Wal-Mart, > and marine stores. I bought a 12v coffee maker a couple of years ago and > I > found that it took forever to make coffee and it never really seemed to > "perk" properly. It has spent it's life on a garage shelf. > I wonder if a small inverter would operate a coffee maker? > Alternatives would be to toast in a fry pan, coffee in an old percolator > on > a cooktop...mine is alcohol/electric or whatever you have for cooking > aboard. > > Bob Clinkenbeard > 24' custom trailer trawler "Bobbin Along" > Locust Grove, Georgia > http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-aboardbobbinalong

Wednesday, March 26, 2008, 9:53:09 AM, Dennis wrote: D> Are any available, i.e. electric kettle, coffee D> maker, toasters ? D> Dennis It takes a large amount of electrical power to produce useful heat, so it is not practical to use 12 volts to power the items you list (although there may be some appliances available - I see that another poster reports unacceptable performance from a 12V coffee maker.) My 120V electric kettle uses 1500 watts - that's about 12 amps at 120 V, and would be 120 amps at 12 volts to produce the same heat - that would require a pretty huge power cord and plug!! It may be practical to use an inverter to power those devices, but you will still need to worry about battery capacity, and will need a proper inverter installation with suitably large (2/0) 12 volt wiring, as the inverter will draw over 100 amps to power any one of those appliances. -- Peter Bennett, VE7CEI Vancouver, B.C., Canada Ennos 31 "Honeycomb" GPS and NMEA info: http://vancouver-webpages.com/peter Vancouver Power Squadron: http://vancouver.powersquadron.ca

Another good source for small appliances is www.campingworld.com Even quicker than a percolator on a propane grill or stove would be a "coffee bag" or a French press coffee maker that does not take a long time percolating. They just take boiled water and steeping, like tea bags. Elaine 717-479-5012 ELReib@comcast.net Co-founder, Skipper Bob Publications ----- Original Message ----- From: <dd0267@gregsteckel.com> To: <trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 4:44 PM Subject: Re: T&T: 12 V DC small appliances? > We tried a 12v coffee maker on our sail boat - it drew way TOO much > current and took over 25 mins to brew - better off using a stove top > percolator on the propane grill. > > Greg Steckel > M/Y Different Drummer > President 35 Sundeck > Frog Mortar Creek, MD > > www.chesapeakebayboater.com > www.fmyc.org > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bob Clinkenbeard" <clinkenbeardb@bellsouth.net> > To: <trawlers-and-trawlering@lists.samurai.com> > Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 4:26 PM > Subject: Re: T&T: 12 V DC small appliances? > > >>I have seen a good supply at truck stops, sporting goods stores, Wal-Mart, >> and marine stores. I bought a 12v coffee maker a couple of years ago and >> I >> found that it took forever to make coffee and it never really seemed to >> "perk" properly. It has spent it's life on a garage shelf. >> I wonder if a small inverter would operate a coffee maker? >> Alternatives would be to toast in a fry pan, coffee in an old percolator >> on >> a cooktop...mine is alcohol/electric or whatever you have for cooking >> aboard. >> >> Bob Clinkenbeard >> 24' custom trailer trawler "Bobbin Along" >> Locust Grove, Georgia >> http://home.bellsouth.net/p/PWP-aboardbobbinalong > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/trawlers-and-trawlering > > To unsubscribe or modify your subscription options (get password, change > email address, etc) go to: > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/trawlers-and-trawlering > > Trawlers & Trawlering and T&T are trademarks of Water World > Productions. Unauthorized use is prohibited.