Dave: Kathleen and John Douglas made the same journey two or so years ago.
They have a 50 ft. Seahorse Marine Diesel Duck Sedan. You can get details of
their experience at https://roundtopdr.wordpress.com/2015/07/ or Google M/Y
Laysan.
Asrar Zubair
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Subject: [PUP] Swan Song
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Long but could be interesting.
Swan Song is now in the Long Beach Area after a 2800nm passage from
Honolulu. Up wind, up wave and up current!
Weather forecast's were way under the actual wind/seas that we encountered
on the passage. The HNL LAX rhumb line passage isn't one that any sailboat
makes and that few non-commercial powerboats due either.
Swan Song is a single engine vessel with no backup which makes the number of
sister ships that have made this passage drop to very low numbers. We
couldn't find nor anyone on either end that could come up with a private
recreational vessel that has done this run. Must be someone out there and if
you know them please let me know as I'd like to salute them and compare
notes.
Biggest issue was trash. We were stopped 5 times with trash in the
prop/rudder. Running 24/7 there's 12 hours of darkness and with big head
seas you can't even see the trash in daylight till its on the wave in front
of you. We were roughly 500 miles south of the Gyre so hadn't expected so
much trash. In 2008 coming from Cabo San Lucas to HNL we never saw virtually
anything nor caught anything on the prop/rudder. This time there were
thousands of pieces that went by us.
Swan Song's prop and rudder are behind and above her keel. I can't imagine
how many more items a twin prop rudder system would pick up but it sure
would be more than Swan Song's configuration. Even a setup with a offset
'get home engine/prop' would get fouled and given the size of the trash more
than likely would be made unserviceable from a bent prop/shaft/strut.
We have an onboard air system that is specifically set up with a dive air
system on hose(s). My experience using tanks offshore in a seaway puts you
at increased risk as the tank(s)s/BC add way to much bulk and weight. When
the boat is going up and down many feet on each wave the danger of getting
disabled by not moving with the boat is high. Being able to wedge yourself
under the boat and become part of the movement add a huge safety factor,
IMHO.
In any case we had a bad wrap @ 2150 one night and had to shut the boat down
as the 8" line cutter didn't have a chance. ART, Swan Song's zero speed
stabilization system, which works all the time. so . Underway or sitting
beam to a sea makes no difference in it's operation. Up/down or pitching are
still happening but rolling is well under control ;-)
The wrap turned out to be about 15' of 1 3/4" high modulus line woven into
netting all trailing behind. Pete lost the coin toss, suited up and went
down with my 'Hook Knife' He managed to cut the line free with a couple
pulls of this incredible knife and then unwrap it all. We pulled it aboard
as his souvenir and so that folks can just see what you might have to deal
with.
Any case, I think that an onboard air system is something that all
passagemakers need to seriously consider as the world's oceans get more and
more trash. Doesn't matter how many engines/props/rudders you have they will
get fouled and you will have to clear them sooner or later.
We had two powertrain issues. one was the front seal in the transmission
started leaking badly. 3 qts a day so we fashioned a catch tray and were
able to capture most of it and return it to the transmission. The 2nd issue
was a blown diaphragm on the fuel pressure sending unit. It managed to spray
several gallons of diesel about before I saw it and shut down the engine to
repair it. A mess but was all cleaned up and underway in a couple of
hours...again ART steadies the roll so that working in the engine room with
tools isn't a worry
I have a policy of shutting down the engine at noon every day and doing a
close detailed inspection of fluids, belts and all other parts.
Before shut down the IR gun is swiped over the engine to make sure there are
no unusual 'hot spots'. Over my many years I've found that this shut down
along with the hourly visual engine room scans allows one to keep ahead of
surprises in general.
2800 nm 18 days 1200 gal of fuel used! Not bad for a 100,000+ 60' trawler
;-)
Swan Song is for sale(BST) but if she doesn't sell by October in California
we're heading south to Cabo San Lucas and then on down the coast to the
Panama Canal. Then into the Caribbean and who know's from there?? Florida,
Cuba or the British Virgin Islands..... can't let her sit around too long as
she was built to be off the dock and on the sea not a dock queen ;-)
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Dave: Kathleen and John Douglas made the same journey two or so years ago.
They have a 50 ft. Seahorse Marine Diesel Duck Sedan. You can get details of
their experience at https://roundtopdr.wordpress.com/2015/07/ or Google M/Y
Laysan.
Asrar Zubair
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Date: Fri, 4 Aug 2017 09:36:59 -0400
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Subject: [PUP] Swan Song
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Long but could be interesting.
Swan Song is now in the Long Beach Area after a 2800nm passage from
Honolulu. Up wind, up wave and up current!
Weather forecast's were way under the actual wind/seas that we encountered
on the passage. The HNL LAX rhumb line passage isn't one that any sailboat
makes and that few non-commercial powerboats due either.
Swan Song is a single engine vessel with no backup which makes the number of
sister ships that have made this passage drop to very low numbers. We
couldn't find nor anyone on either end that could come up with a private
recreational vessel that has done this run. Must be someone out there and if
you know them please let me know as I'd like to salute them and compare
notes.
Biggest issue was trash. We were stopped 5 times with trash in the
prop/rudder. Running 24/7 there's 12 hours of darkness and with big head
seas you can't even see the trash in daylight till its on the wave in front
of you. We were roughly 500 miles south of the Gyre so hadn't expected so
much trash. In 2008 coming from Cabo San Lucas to HNL we never saw virtually
anything nor caught anything on the prop/rudder. This time there were
thousands of pieces that went by us.
Swan Song's prop and rudder are behind and above her keel. I can't imagine
how many more items a twin prop rudder system would pick up but it sure
would be more than Swan Song's configuration. Even a setup with a offset
'get home engine/prop' would get fouled and given the size of the trash more
than likely would be made unserviceable from a bent prop/shaft/strut.
We have an onboard air system that is specifically set up with a dive air
system on hose(s). My experience using tanks offshore in a seaway puts you
at increased risk as the tank(s)s/BC add way to much bulk and weight. When
the boat is going up and down many feet on each wave the danger of getting
disabled by not moving with the boat is high. Being able to wedge yourself
under the boat and become part of the movement add a huge safety factor,
IMHO.
In any case we had a bad wrap @ 2150 one night and had to shut the boat down
as the 8" line cutter didn't have a chance. ART, Swan Song's zero speed
stabilization system, which works all the time. so . Underway or sitting
beam to a sea makes no difference in it's operation. Up/down or pitching are
still happening but rolling is well under control ;-)
The wrap turned out to be about 15' of 1 3/4" high modulus line woven into
netting all trailing behind. Pete lost the coin toss, suited up and went
down with my 'Hook Knife' He managed to cut the line free with a couple
pulls of this incredible knife and then unwrap it all. We pulled it aboard
as his souvenir and so that folks can just see what you might have to deal
with.
Any case, I think that an onboard air system is something that all
passagemakers need to seriously consider as the world's oceans get more and
more trash. Doesn't matter how many engines/props/rudders you have they will
get fouled and you will have to clear them sooner or later.
We had two powertrain issues. one was the front seal in the transmission
started leaking badly. 3 qts a day so we fashioned a catch tray and were
able to capture most of it and return it to the transmission. The 2nd issue
was a blown diaphragm on the fuel pressure sending unit. It managed to spray
several gallons of diesel about before I saw it and shut down the engine to
repair it. A mess but was all cleaned up and underway in a couple of
hours...again ART steadies the roll so that working in the engine room with
tools isn't a worry
I have a policy of shutting down the engine at noon every day and doing a
close detailed inspection of fluids, belts and all other parts.
Before shut down the IR gun is swiped over the engine to make sure there are
no unusual 'hot spots'. Over my many years I've found that this shut down
along with the hourly visual engine room scans allows one to keep ahead of
surprises in general.
2800 nm 18 days 1200 gal of fuel used! Not bad for a 100,000+ 60' trawler
;-)
Swan Song is for sale(BST) but if she doesn't sell by October in California
we're heading south to Cabo San Lucas and then on down the coast to the
Panama Canal. Then into the Caribbean and who know's from there?? Florida,
Cuba or the British Virgin Islands..... can't let her sit around too long as
she was built to be off the dock and on the sea not a dock queen ;-)
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