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Neutrino timing

JH
Javier Herrero
Tue, Oct 25, 2011 7:20 PM

El 25/10/2011 21:00, Magnus Danielson escribió:

And an imaginary mass would imply and imaginary energy (in the sense of
complex number with no real part... :) ) and that would imply also that
lower energy neutrinos (in module value) would be faster. Sounds fun :)

Exactly, remember where you heard it first ;)

Oh, sadly this is not the first place where I've heard a speculation of
the neutrino being a true tachyon ;) And I like the idea. The neutrino
is so elusive and tends to interact with the universe in a way that it
really seems to be from other universe (the tachyonic one). One only
needs to see the size of complexity of the neutrino detector, that
otherwise is so blind to only being able to get a handful of all the
neutrinos that crosses it :)

Regards,

Javier

El 25/10/2011 21:00, Magnus Danielson escribió: >> And an imaginary mass would imply and imaginary energy (in the sense of >> complex number with no real part... :) ) and that would imply also that >> lower energy neutrinos (in module value) would be faster. Sounds fun :) > > > Exactly, remember where you heard it first ;) > Oh, sadly this is not the first place where I've heard a speculation of the neutrino being a true tachyon ;) And I like the idea. The neutrino is so elusive and tends to interact with the universe in a way that it really seems to be from other universe (the tachyonic one). One only needs to see the size of complexity of the neutrino detector, that otherwise is so blind to only being able to get a handful of all the neutrinos that crosses it :) Regards, Javier
CA
Chris Albertson
Tue, Oct 25, 2011 8:37 PM

On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Magnus Danielson
magnus@rubidium.dyndns.org wrote:

Once the imaginary axis is introduced, you can also expect complex numbers
for mass. But really, it is not the explanation I would expect to turn out
true.

I suspect it IS true.  I too don't like the idea of a complex number
value for physical qualities like mass.    I'd rather accept that mass
and so on is a "normal" vector with components that are all "real".  I
suspect that the imaginary component does in fact exist in nature and
in this case is not just a mathematical construct.

There is an "easy" way for these complex numbers to physically exist
without radically changing our view of the universe or tossing out
known physics.  The simplest change is this:  Let the three
dimensions of space be i, j, k.  Each has an axis that is a line with
huge length, possibly infinite.  So far Issac Newton agrees.  But now
what if there is a fourth axis "l" but it's not a line. It is a
circle.  A circle with radius far to small to detect with current
methods.  All particles now have four spacial coordinates but the
value of the fourth hardly matters because we really don't care where
in the universe you are if the universe is a only (say)  1E-1000
meters across.

Next we argue if the extra dimension is a trick to avoid the
unpleasantness of complex physical values or if  complex physical
values are a trick to avoid having to accept the existence of higher
dimensions.

If you accept the "l" dimension as real it also might explains why
neutrinos don't interact with matter much. The answer is they do if
they happen to bump into any matter but that seldom happens.

Chris Albertson
Redondo Beach, California

On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Magnus Danielson <magnus@rubidium.dyndns.org> wrote: > Once the imaginary axis is introduced, you can also expect complex numbers > for mass. But really, it is not the explanation I would expect to turn out > true. I suspect it IS true. I too don't like the idea of a complex number value for physical qualities like mass. I'd rather accept that mass and so on is a "normal" vector with components that are all "real". I suspect that the imaginary component does in fact exist in nature and in this case is not just a mathematical construct. There is an "easy" way for these complex numbers to physically exist without radically changing our view of the universe or tossing out known physics. The simplest change is this: Let the three dimensions of space be i, j, k. Each has an axis that is a line with huge length, possibly infinite. So far Issac Newton agrees. But now what if there is a fourth axis "l" but it's not a line. It is a circle. A circle with radius far to small to detect with current methods. All particles now have four spacial coordinates but the value of the fourth hardly matters because we really don't care where in the universe you are if the universe is a only (say) 1E-1000 meters across. Next we argue if the extra dimension is a trick to avoid the unpleasantness of complex physical values or if complex physical values are a trick to avoid having to accept the existence of higher dimensions. If you accept the "l" dimension as real it also might explains why neutrinos don't interact with matter much. The answer is they do if they happen to bump into any matter but that seldom happens. Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California