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Bodie6413@aol.com
Sat, Oct 11, 2008 2:19 AM

Colonel's Lady has completed her  exploration of the TN River for this year,
extending it into the Tellico and  Little TN Rivers.  For those Loopers
coming this direction we highly recommend going all the way to Knoxville.  The
foliage will be breath-taking in  late October and all of November if you can
weather the cool mornings, and we  found very little to no traffic on the river.
All of the marinas and yacht clubs gave  us our choice where we wanted to
stay.
In my humble opinion Chattanooga is the most  progressive, far planning city
that I have ever seen.  It is just amazing the art deco in the  city planning
that has been incorporated into the design, building, and  decoration of the
city.  If you stay  at the Floating Docks,(Ross's Landing) the fountain end
leads you up  to the two aquariums and restaurants - the east end takes you up to
the three  museums and art section called Bluff View but you have to navigate
18 sets of 16  steps.  All posts have 30 amp but  only posts 1,3 and 5,
starting at the fountain end have 50 amp.  We spent a week there and did not get to
see all of the city nor the North Shore, even though they have the free
electric shuttles.  Many restaurants  of good quality and a mystery theatre with
average city talent are within  walking distance.  The fountains and  the
stairs symbolize the TRAIL OF TEARS, and bikers in the thousands gather here
every September 19 to 22 to ride from here to Florence AL.  Friday nights in the
center of town the city sponsors Night Fall  (Memorial Day thru Sept),  a six
square block gathering of bikers and bikes and western entertainment from 8 pm
to 10:30.  Very entertaining looking  at all of the fantastic bikes on
display.
Knoxville has nothing other than the campus  worth seeing we thought, and
then found out that a new museum has just opened on  Gay street, downtown.
Beware of  Volunteer Landing.  After getting  all tied up and settled, we then
found they charge $2 per foot.  This after spending $8 a night at Ft  Loudoun
Yacht Club including electricity, and $o.50 per foot including  electricity at
Lake Guntersville Yacht Club.  Ft Loudoun is where you want to stay if  you plan
on exploring Knoxville.
Little  TN and Tellico Rivers are a total delight, and watching the  Smoky
Mountains slowly appear is  an added attraction.  No towns or  industry on
either river results in clean water and the snow runoff from the  mountains makes
it cold and crystal clear.  I want to come back and spend two months here next
year just enjoying the  views and fishing.

With  the limited number of boaters, and almost no commercial traffic, this
year was  wonderful for our explorations.  We highly recommend it to all.

Ron and Molly  on Colonel's Lady, 1986 43' Heritage East, MTOA #2950, AGLCA
#3460, San Diego,  619 994 0061, bodie6413@aol.com

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Colonel's Lady has completed her exploration of the TN River for this year, extending it into the Tellico and Little TN Rivers. For those Loopers coming this direction we highly recommend going all the way to Knoxville. The foliage will be breath-taking in late October and all of November if you can weather the cool mornings, and we found very little to no traffic on the river. All of the marinas and yacht clubs gave us our choice where we wanted to stay. In my humble opinion Chattanooga is the most progressive, far planning city that I have ever seen. It is just amazing the art deco in the city planning that has been incorporated into the design, building, and decoration of the city. If you stay at the Floating Docks,(Ross's Landing) the fountain end leads you up to the two aquariums and restaurants - the east end takes you up to the three museums and art section called Bluff View but you have to navigate 18 sets of 16 steps. All posts have 30 amp but only posts 1,3 and 5, starting at the fountain end have 50 amp. We spent a week there and did not get to see all of the city nor the North Shore, even though they have the free electric shuttles. Many restaurants of good quality and a mystery theatre with average city talent are within walking distance. The fountains and the stairs symbolize the TRAIL OF TEARS, and bikers in the thousands gather here every September 19 to 22 to ride from here to Florence AL. Friday nights in the center of town the city sponsors Night Fall (Memorial Day thru Sept), a six square block gathering of bikers and bikes and western entertainment from 8 pm to 10:30. Very entertaining looking at all of the fantastic bikes on display. Knoxville has nothing other than the campus worth seeing we thought, and then found out that a new museum has just opened on Gay street, downtown. Beware of Volunteer Landing. After getting all tied up and settled, we then found they charge $2 per foot. This after spending $8 a night at Ft Loudoun Yacht Club including electricity, and $o.50 per foot including electricity at Lake Guntersville Yacht Club. Ft Loudoun is where you want to stay if you plan on exploring Knoxville. Little TN and Tellico Rivers are a total delight, and watching the Smoky Mountains slowly appear is an added attraction. No towns or industry on either river results in clean water and the snow runoff from the mountains makes it cold and crystal clear. I want to come back and spend two months here next year just enjoying the views and fishing. With the limited number of boaters, and almost no commercial traffic, this year was wonderful for our explorations. We highly recommend it to all. Ron and Molly on Colonel's Lady, 1986 43' Heritage East, MTOA #2950, AGLCA #3460, San Diego, 619 994 0061, bodie6413@aol.com **************New MapQuest Local shows what's happening at your destination. Dining, Movies, Events, News & more. Try it out (http://local.mapquest.com/?ncid=emlcntnew00000002)
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Phil Bolin
Thu, Dec 18, 2008 3:39 AM

Hello ... I'm asking for some opinion/help with an issue:

Having cruised for 5-6 months of year for 4 years, we're moving aboard
permanently in April 2009.

One of several issues we're dealing with is usable washer and dryer for full
time live aboard.  We have combination w/d (non vented Mabler) that we do
not like.  We have 110V to boat now, but no 220V (2 30 amp cables from shore
when in port and 8 kw gewnerator).

Options include 1) adding 110V washer and 110V vented dryer (either stacked
or separate, 2) adding 220V system and 220V vented dryer (ouch), or 3) live
with what we have.

Would appreciate past experience, opinions or just comments on choices.
Some specific issues/questions are:

  1. Is the 110 vented dryer with larger drum (2.6 to 3.5 cu. Feet) really
    better than the combo non vented one?
  2. Do full time live aboards (anchor a lot) really need a w/d that works
    well?
  3. Regular 3.6 cu ft dryers are 23.75 inches and my access to spaces that
    will hold same is 23.5 inches.  Has anyone had experience taking dryer apart
    to move around inside boat?  Is it easy?  Other choice is taking framing off
    door.

Sincerely,

Phil and Carey Bolin
Apolonia, 43' Vista
804-761-3425
web page:  www.yachtapolonia.com
email:  pwbolin@verizon.net

Hello ... I'm asking for some opinion/help with an issue: Having cruised for 5-6 months of year for 4 years, we're moving aboard permanently in April 2009. One of several issues we're dealing with is usable washer and dryer for full time live aboard. We have combination w/d (non vented Mabler) that we do not like. We have 110V to boat now, but no 220V (2 30 amp cables from shore when in port and 8 kw gewnerator). Options include 1) adding 110V washer and 110V vented dryer (either stacked or separate, 2) adding 220V system and 220V vented dryer (ouch), or 3) live with what we have. Would appreciate past experience, opinions or just comments on choices. Some specific issues/questions are: 1) Is the 110 vented dryer with larger drum (2.6 to 3.5 cu. Feet) really better than the combo non vented one? 2) Do full time live aboards (anchor a lot) really need a w/d that works well? 3) Regular 3.6 cu ft dryers are 23.75 inches and my access to spaces that will hold same is 23.5 inches. Has anyone had experience taking dryer apart to move around inside boat? Is it easy? Other choice is taking framing off door. Sincerely, Phil and Carey Bolin Apolonia, 43' Vista 804-761-3425 web page: www.yachtapolonia.com email: pwbolin@verizon.net
BD
Bob DeGroot, DCH
Thu, Dec 18, 2008 5:54 PM

We have the separate washer / dryer (vented 220 v) set up in our DeFever 44

  • 5 and that really works well. Can do laundry underway, at anchor, or in
    port.

The challenge is the amount of water the washer uses. I need a closer
measure but I think we use between 25 to 40 gallons per load (based on load
settings) so we're adding a watermaker.

Best,
Bob

Bob DeGroot, D.C.H.
M/V Spirit Dancer
DeFever 49 CPMY
Lakewood Yacht Club - Seabrook, Texas
MTOA # 1896 - DeFever Cruisers # 857
Great Loop Assoc. (AGLCA) # 427
www.BoaterSites.com
Cell (713) 876-878
Skype: 281-506-2676 or dr.bob.degroot

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Phil Bolin
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 9:40 PM
To: great-loop@lists.samurai.com
Subject: GL: Boating with Washer and Dryer

Hello ... I'm asking for some opinion/help with an issue:

Having cruised for 5-6 months of year for 4 years, we're moving aboard
permanently in April 2009.

One of several issues we're dealing with is usable washer and dryer for full
time live aboard.  We have combination w/d (non vented Mabler) that we do
not like.  We have 110V to boat now, but no 220V (2 30 amp cables from shore
when in port and 8 kw gewnerator).

Options include 1) adding 110V washer and 110V vented dryer (either stacked
or separate, 2) adding 220V system and 220V vented dryer (ouch), or 3) live
with what we have.

Would appreciate past experience, opinions or just comments on choices.
Some specific issues/questions are:

  1. Is the 110 vented dryer with larger drum (2.6 to 3.5 cu. Feet) really
    better than the combo non vented one?
  2. Do full time live aboards (anchor a lot) really need a w/d that works
    well?
  3. Regular 3.6 cu ft dryers are 23.75 inches and my access to spaces that
    will hold same is 23.5 inches.  Has anyone had experience taking dryer apart
    to move around inside boat?  Is it easy?  Other choice is taking framing off
    door.

Sincerely,

Phil and Carey Bolin
Apolonia, 43' Vista
804-761-3425
web page:  www.yachtapolonia.com
email:  pwbolin@verizon.net


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We have the separate washer / dryer (vented 220 v) set up in our DeFever 44 + 5 and that really works well. Can do laundry underway, at anchor, or in port. The challenge is the amount of water the washer uses. I need a closer measure but I think we use between 25 to 40 gallons per load (based on load settings) so we're adding a watermaker. Best, Bob Bob DeGroot, D.C.H. M/V Spirit Dancer DeFever 49 CPMY Lakewood Yacht Club - Seabrook, Texas MTOA # 1896 - DeFever Cruisers # 857 Great Loop Assoc. (AGLCA) # 427 www.BoaterSites.com Cell (713) 876-878 Skype: 281-506-2676 or dr.bob.degroot -----Original Message----- From: great-loop-bounces+bob=saleshelp.com@lists.samurai.com [mailto:great-loop-bounces+bob=saleshelp.com@lists.samurai.com] On Behalf Of Phil Bolin Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2008 9:40 PM To: great-loop@lists.samurai.com Subject: GL: Boating with Washer and Dryer Hello ... I'm asking for some opinion/help with an issue: Having cruised for 5-6 months of year for 4 years, we're moving aboard permanently in April 2009. One of several issues we're dealing with is usable washer and dryer for full time live aboard. We have combination w/d (non vented Mabler) that we do not like. We have 110V to boat now, but no 220V (2 30 amp cables from shore when in port and 8 kw gewnerator). Options include 1) adding 110V washer and 110V vented dryer (either stacked or separate, 2) adding 220V system and 220V vented dryer (ouch), or 3) live with what we have. Would appreciate past experience, opinions or just comments on choices. Some specific issues/questions are: 1) Is the 110 vented dryer with larger drum (2.6 to 3.5 cu. Feet) really better than the combo non vented one? 2) Do full time live aboards (anchor a lot) really need a w/d that works well? 3) Regular 3.6 cu ft dryers are 23.75 inches and my access to spaces that will hold same is 23.5 inches. Has anyone had experience taking dryer apart to move around inside boat? Is it easy? Other choice is taking framing off door. Sincerely, Phil and Carey Bolin Apolonia, 43' Vista 804-761-3425 web page: www.yachtapolonia.com email: pwbolin@verizon.net _______________________________________________ http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, unsubscribe, etc.) go to: http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/great-loop
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Ken Bloomfield
Fri, Dec 19, 2008 1:08 AM

Hello Phil,
I believe that you will find that the standard stackable washer and
dryer is vastly better than the combo non-vented type.  I have this
setup, and my boating buddy has the other (an Italian made system) on
his boat and it is next door to useless.  It apparently relies on a
condensate system to remove water from the air and hence the clothes,
but it seems to take forever to dry.  I believe that it is simply the
venting as much as anything that makes the standard so-called apartment
washer/dryer work better.  It is certainly a lot less expensive as
well.  While the heat is of course less than a 240 VAC system, the
tumbling and the air blown through are good and contribute much to the
drying process.  My boat has only an 8 kW Onan generator as well, and is
set up with two "legs" of  120 VAC.  Essentially air-conditioning is on
one leg (I have 4 units but can run only 3 at a time), and everything
else on the other leg.  When I use the washer and dryer at the same
time, I can only run one air unit or the load is too great for the
generator.  I am OK at dock, as the boat is wired for 50 amp/240 VAC, so
I have essentially two 50 amp legs there.  My units are simple Kenmore
units put in by the PO, and they work very nicely.
Cheers,
Ken Bloomfield
MTOA 2062
50' MT  Tellico Lady

  1. Is the 110 vented dryer with larger drum (2.6 to 3.5 cu. Feet) really
    better than the combo non vented one?
  2. Do full time live aboards (anchor a lot) really need a w/d that works
    well?
  3. Regular 3.6 cu ft dryers are 23.75 inches and my access to spaces that
    will hold same is 23.5 inches.  Has anyone had experience taking dryer apart
    to move around inside boat?  Is it easy?  Other choice is taking framing off
    door.
Hello Phil, I believe that you will find that the standard stackable washer and dryer is vastly better than the combo non-vented type. I have this setup, and my boating buddy has the other (an Italian made system) on his boat and it is next door to useless. It apparently relies on a condensate system to remove water from the air and hence the clothes, but it seems to take forever to dry. I believe that it is simply the venting as much as anything that makes the standard so-called apartment washer/dryer work better. It is certainly a lot less expensive as well. While the heat is of course less than a 240 VAC system, the tumbling and the air blown through are good and contribute much to the drying process. My boat has only an 8 kW Onan generator as well, and is set up with two "legs" of 120 VAC. Essentially air-conditioning is on one leg (I have 4 units but can run only 3 at a time), and everything else on the other leg. When I use the washer and dryer at the same time, I can only run one air unit or the load is too great for the generator. I am OK at dock, as the boat is wired for 50 amp/240 VAC, so I have essentially two 50 amp legs there. My units are simple Kenmore units put in by the PO, and they work very nicely. Cheers, Ken Bloomfield MTOA 2062 50' MT Tellico Lady > > 1) Is the 110 vented dryer with larger drum (2.6 to 3.5 cu. Feet) really > better than the combo non vented one? > 2) Do full time live aboards (anchor a lot) really need a w/d that works > well? > 3) Regular 3.6 cu ft dryers are 23.75 inches and my access to spaces that > will hold same is 23.5 inches. Has anyone had experience taking dryer apart > to move around inside boat? Is it easy? Other choice is taking framing off > door.
RY
Ralph Yost (home)
Fri, Dec 19, 2008 1:23 AM

I have a close friend who works at Viking yachts, who some of you might know
is a top quality and expense sport fishing boat manufacturer. In a tour of
their factory once, I notice they were using Kenmore washer and dryers so I
asked why would they choose a middle-quality washer dryer and not something
more "top of the line". His answer was simple: Kenmore parts are available
world-wide and hence become an excellent choice for their boats that travel
all over the world.

Ken - I liked your explanation of why the combo washer/dryer units do not
work as well as the seperate dryer.
R,.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ken Bloomfield" khtb@bellsouth.net
To: "Phil Bolin" pwbolin@verizon.net
Cc: great-loop@lists.samurai.com
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 8:08 PM
Subject: Re: GL: Boating with Washer and Dryer

Hello Phil,
I believe that you will find that the standard stackable washer and
dryer is vastly better than the combo non-vented type.  I have this
setup, and my boating buddy has the other (an Italian made system) on
his boat and it is next door to useless.  It apparently relies on a
condensate system to remove water from the air and hence the clothes,
but it seems to take forever to dry.  I believe that it is simply the
venting as much as anything that makes the standard so-called apartment
washer/dryer work better.  It is certainly a lot less expensive as
well.  While the heat is of course less than a 240 VAC system, the
tumbling and the air blown through are good and contribute much to the
drying process.  My boat has only an 8 kW Onan generator as well, and is
set up with two "legs" of  120 VAC.  Essentially air-conditioning is on
one leg (I have 4 units but can run only 3 at a time), and everything
else on the other leg.  When I use the washer and dryer at the same
time, I can only run one air unit or the load is too great for the
generator.  I am OK at dock, as the boat is wired for 50 amp/240 VAC, so
I have essentially two 50 amp legs there.  My units are simple Kenmore
units put in by the PO, and they work very nicely.
Cheers,
Ken Bloomfield
MTOA 2062
50' MT  Tellico Lady

  1. Is the 110 vented dryer with larger drum (2.6 to 3.5 cu. Feet) really
    better than the combo non vented one?
  2. Do full time live aboards (anchor a lot) really need a w/d that works
    well?
  3. Regular 3.6 cu ft dryers are 23.75 inches and my access to spaces that
    will hold same is 23.5 inches.  Has anyone had experience taking dryer
    apart
    to move around inside boat?  Is it easy?  Other choice is taking framing
    off
    door.

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I have a close friend who works at Viking yachts, who some of you might know is a top quality and expense sport fishing boat manufacturer. In a tour of their factory once, I notice they were using Kenmore washer and dryers so I asked why would they choose a middle-quality washer dryer and not something more "top of the line". His answer was simple: Kenmore parts are available world-wide and hence become an excellent choice for their boats that travel all over the world. Ken - I liked your explanation of why the combo washer/dryer units do not work as well as the seperate dryer. R,. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ken Bloomfield" <khtb@bellsouth.net> To: "Phil Bolin" <pwbolin@verizon.net> Cc: <great-loop@lists.samurai.com> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2008 8:08 PM Subject: Re: GL: Boating with Washer and Dryer > Hello Phil, > I believe that you will find that the standard stackable washer and > dryer is vastly better than the combo non-vented type. I have this > setup, and my boating buddy has the other (an Italian made system) on > his boat and it is next door to useless. It apparently relies on a > condensate system to remove water from the air and hence the clothes, > but it seems to take forever to dry. I believe that it is simply the > venting as much as anything that makes the standard so-called apartment > washer/dryer work better. It is certainly a lot less expensive as > well. While the heat is of course less than a 240 VAC system, the > tumbling and the air blown through are good and contribute much to the > drying process. My boat has only an 8 kW Onan generator as well, and is > set up with two "legs" of 120 VAC. Essentially air-conditioning is on > one leg (I have 4 units but can run only 3 at a time), and everything > else on the other leg. When I use the washer and dryer at the same > time, I can only run one air unit or the load is too great for the > generator. I am OK at dock, as the boat is wired for 50 amp/240 VAC, so > I have essentially two 50 amp legs there. My units are simple Kenmore > units put in by the PO, and they work very nicely. > Cheers, > Ken Bloomfield > MTOA 2062 > 50' MT Tellico Lady >> >> 1) Is the 110 vented dryer with larger drum (2.6 to 3.5 cu. Feet) really >> better than the combo non vented one? >> 2) Do full time live aboards (anchor a lot) really need a w/d that works >> well? >> 3) Regular 3.6 cu ft dryers are 23.75 inches and my access to spaces that >> will hold same is 23.5 inches. Has anyone had experience taking dryer >> apart >> to move around inside boat? Is it easy? Other choice is taking framing >> off >> door. > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/great-loop > > To modify your Great-Loop subscription options (change email address, > unsubscribe, etc.) go to: > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/options/great-loop