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Subject: Re: Any suggestion - or PPM should die ?

Highlan875@aol.com

Thu, Dec 11, 2008 3:22 PM

Jim Hughes

Subject: Re: [PUP] Any suggestion - or PPM should die ?

Hello, could we ask all the sailors on here to look at not the top 600K
trawler but put their experience to making a good seaworthy small passagemaker,
and what a small passagemaker would need. I think it is good to look at the top
of the market knowing the products which have world wide reputation but when
you have to put your mind to the economical solution and making the budget
solution there may be a different story.
Any thoughts ?
Regards
David

Money Yoga is Consciously Transforming People's Relationship with Money.

_Money Yoga Seminar Series

In a message dated 12/11/2008 12:00:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
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Subject: Re: [PUP] Any suggestion - or PPM should die ?

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Daved makes a good point with pricing. What about the $300,000 range? Especially in this market where trawler/pilothouse prices are falling. Recently saw a 50' Trawler/pilothouse that was priced at $400,000 came down a $100,000. This is the second trawler i've seen recently that's had a substantial decrease in price. The point is there are values out there right now for a trawler/pilothouse in the $300K-$400K price range. Another option! Jim Hughes Subject: Re: [PUP] Any suggestion - or PPM should die ? Hello, could we ask all the sailors on here to look at not the top 600K trawler but put their experience to making a good seaworthy small passagemaker, and what a small passagemaker would need. I think it is good to look at the top of the market knowing the products which have world wide reputation but when you have to put your mind to the economical solution and making the budget solution there may be a different story. Any thoughts ? Regards David Money Yoga is Consciously Transforming People's Relationship with Money. _Money Yoga Seminar Series In a message dated 12/11/2008 12:00:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, passagemaking-under-power-request@lists.samurai.com writes: Subject: Re: [PUP] Any suggestion - or PPM should die ? _ (http://www.moneyyogaseminar.com/) **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol.com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010)

Alan

Fri, Dec 12, 2008 2:35 PM

Alan Wagner
Tampa, Florida

PS -- Brian should be through building my PPM in early summer, so if anyone
wants an old used boat or know anyone that does, I will have one available
in the near future. My current goal is to try to avoid owning two boats at
the same time!

:-)

-------Original Message-------

From: Highlan875@aol.com
Date: 12/11/2008 10:23:15 AM
To: passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com
Subject: [PUP] Subject: Re: Any suggestion - or PPM should die ?

Jim Hughes

Subject: Re: [PUP] Any suggestion - or PPM should die ?

Hello, could we ask all the sailors on here to look at not the top 600K
trawler but put their experience to making a good seaworthy small
passagemaker,
and what a small passagemaker would need. I think it is good to look at the
top
of the market knowing the products which have world wide reputation but
when
you have to put your mind to the economical solution and making the budget
solution there may be a different story.
Any thoughts ?
Regards
David

Money Yoga is Consciously Transforming People's Relationship with Money.

_Money Yoga Seminar Series

In a message dated 12/11/2008 12:00:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
passagemaking-under-power-request@lists.samurai.com writes:

Subject: Re: [PUP] Any suggestion - or PPM should die ?

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o;? o;? o;? o;? You cannot select a target price for a "design your own and build it new" boat by reference to the current price of a used boat. That is mixing apples and oranges. The fact that you can buy a used 20 year old boat for $100,000 does not mean that you can design and build a similarly sized vessel for a comparable price. Alan Wagner Tampa, Florida PS -- Brian should be through building my PPM in early summer, so if anyone wants an old used boat or know anyone that does, I will have one available in the near future. My current goal is to try to avoid owning two boats at the same time! :-) -------Original Message------- From: Highlan875@aol.com Date: 12/11/2008 10:23:15 AM To: passagemaking-under-power@lists.samurai.com Subject: [PUP] Subject: Re: Any suggestion - or PPM should die ? Daved makes a good point with pricing. What about the $300,000 range? Especially in this market where trawler/pilothouse prices are falling. Recently saw a 50' Trawler/pilothouse that was priced at $400,000 came down a $100,000. This is the second trawler i've seen recently that's had a substantial decrease in price. The point is there are values out there right now for a trawler/pilothouse in the $300K-$400K price range. Another option! Jim Hughes Subject: Re: [PUP] Any suggestion - or PPM should die ? Hello, could we ask all the sailors on here to look at not the top 600K trawler but put their experience to making a good seaworthy small passagemaker, and what a small passagemaker would need. I think it is good to look at the top of the market knowing the products which have world wide reputation but when you have to put your mind to the economical solution and making the budget solution there may be a different story. Any thoughts ? Regards David Money Yoga is Consciously Transforming People's Relationship with Money. _Money Yoga Seminar Series In a message dated 12/11/2008 12:00:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, passagemaking-under-power-request@lists.samurai.com writes: Subject: Re: [PUP] Any suggestion - or PPM should die ? _ (http://www.moneyyogaseminar.com/) **************Make your life easier with all your friends, email, and favorite sites in one place. Try it now. (http://www.aol com/?optin=new-dp&icid=aolcom40vanity&ncid=emlcntaolcom00000010) _______________________________________________ http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/passagemaking-under-power To unsubscribe send email to passagemaking-under-power-request@lists.samurai.com with the word UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else in the subject or body of the message. Passagemaking Under Power and PUP are trademarks of Water World Productions, formerly known as Trawler World Productions.