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dnagle1949@aol.com
Sun, Nov 23, 2008 4:59 AM

Georgs, I noticed in the T&T article on Heidi & Wolfgang Hass that they had their dog with them when visiting Northern Territory Australia.? Everything I've heard about bringing a cruising dog to Australia involves 90 days quarantine or euthanasia;?how did they do it??
Dave & Dorothy Nagle
DavidEllis Diesel Duck 462-02
Hong Kong

Georgs, I noticed in the T&T article on Heidi & Wolfgang Hass that they had their dog with them when visiting Northern Territory Australia.? Everything I've heard about bringing a cruising dog to Australia involves 90 days quarantine or euthanasia;?how did they do it?? Dave & Dorothy Nagle DavidEllis Diesel Duck 462-02 Hong Kong
KW
Ken Williams
Sun, Nov 23, 2008 3:40 PM

I spoke with Heidi Hass on this topic. I may be confusing my conversation
with her, with a conversation with someone else, so apologies if I am giving
information about the wrong person.

They were in Australia long enough that it was worth it to them to
quarantine their dog. Their dog was taken from them and shipped across
country to a quarantine center. It was returned in poor condition. They are
returning to Australia and will be going through quarantine again, but plan
this time to purchase a motor home, and live during quarantine in the
parking lot of the quarantine center. Apparently you are allowed to visit
the dog daily, and they will do so.

I have spoken to both Australia and New Zealand several times. They are very
firm in their position on dogs. At a minimum we will need to stop for fuel
in Australia. According to the customs people, I will need to arrange
offshore delivery. They don't even want us at a fuel dock with the dog on
board! If anchored, I need to pay an inspector to arrive daily to verify
that the dog is on the boat.

Our dog is too old to be put through quarantine, so other than seeing
Australia through binoculars, it will be an "off shore fuel delivery" for
us.

We're currently working on the paperwork to get our dog into Japan. It is
difficult but possible, and there won't be a quarantine. On the negative
side, I recently spoke with a cruiser who did everything required by Japan,
but was then still forbidden to take his dog ashore.

-Ken Williams
Sans Souci, Nordhavn 68

I spoke with Heidi Hass on this topic. I may be confusing my conversation with her, with a conversation with someone else, so apologies if I am giving information about the wrong person. They were in Australia long enough that it was worth it to them to quarantine their dog. Their dog was taken from them and shipped across country to a quarantine center. It was returned in poor condition. They are returning to Australia and will be going through quarantine again, but plan this time to purchase a motor home, and live during quarantine in the parking lot of the quarantine center. Apparently you are allowed to visit the dog daily, and they will do so. I have spoken to both Australia and New Zealand several times. They are very firm in their position on dogs. At a minimum we will need to stop for fuel in Australia. According to the customs people, I will need to arrange offshore delivery. They don't even want us at a fuel dock with the dog on board! If anchored, I need to pay an inspector to arrive daily to verify that the dog is on the boat. Our dog is too old to be put through quarantine, so other than seeing Australia through binoculars, it will be an "off shore fuel delivery" for us. We're currently working on the paperwork to get our dog into Japan. It is difficult but possible, and there won't be a quarantine. On the negative side, I recently spoke with a cruiser who did everything required by Japan, but was then still forbidden to take his dog ashore. -Ken Williams Sans Souci, Nordhavn 68
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Mark
Sun, Nov 23, 2008 7:40 PM

Just a thought, can you put your dog in your dink offshore, take him/her for a ride during fueling (or in a worst case charter a slightly large boat for a couple hours for a doggie ride), or make friends with someone at anchor who will keep an eye on your dog during fueling.

Seems easier/cheaper to keep the dog off the dock than getting that much fuel delivered offshore.

One last question, are there any 3rd party quarantine services?  It would seem that there would be a business opportunity and someone may have filled the need.  Maybe I'm too used to all the ads in Los Angeles for pet spas, dog ranches, etc.

--- On Sun, 11/23/08, Ken Williams kenw@talkspot.com wrote:

firm in their position on dogs. At a minimum we will need
to stop for fuel
in Australia. According to the customs people, I will need
to arrange
offshore delivery. They don't even want us at a fuel
dock with the dog on
board! If anchored, I need to pay an inspector to arriv

Just a thought, can you put your dog in your dink offshore, take him/her for a ride during fueling (or in a worst case charter a slightly large boat for a couple hours for a doggie ride), or make friends with someone at anchor who will keep an eye on your dog during fueling. Seems easier/cheaper to keep the dog off the dock than getting that much fuel delivered offshore. One last question, are there any 3rd party quarantine services? It would seem that there would be a business opportunity and someone may have filled the need. Maybe I'm too used to all the ads in Los Angeles for pet spas, dog ranches, etc. --- On Sun, 11/23/08, Ken Williams <kenw@talkspot.com> wrote: > firm in their position on dogs. At a minimum we will need > to stop for fuel > in Australia. According to the customs people, I will need > to arrange > offshore delivery. They don't even want us at a fuel > dock with the dog on > board! If anchored, I need to pay an inspector to arriv
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Ross Anderson
Sun, Nov 23, 2008 9:52 PM

Hate to sound negative but why bring a dog?? We learned awhile ago, as
much as we loved our dogs, that it is far better not to passage with
them especially if they are old. God Bless- Ross 10&2

On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Mark mark424x@yahoo.com wrote:

Just a thought, can you put your dog in your dink offshore, take him/her for a ride during fueling (or in a worst case charter a slightly large boat for a couple hours for a doggie ride), or make friends with someone at anchor who will keep an eye on your dog during fueling.

Seems easier/cheaper to keep the dog off the dock than getting that much fuel delivered offshore.

One last question, are there any 3rd party quarantine services?  It would seem that there would be a business opportunity and someone may have filled the need.  Maybe I'm too used to all the ads in Los Angeles for pet spas, dog ranches, etc.

--- On Sun, 11/23/08, Ken Williams kenw@talkspot.com wrote:

firm in their position on dogs. At a minimum we will need
to stop for fuel
in Australia. According to the customs people, I will need
to arrange
offshore delivery. They don't even want us at a fuel
dock with the dog on
board! If anchored, I need to pay an inspector to arriv


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Hate to sound negative but why bring a dog?? We learned awhile ago, as much as we loved our dogs, that it is far better not to passage with them especially if they are old. God Bless- Ross 10&2 On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 2:40 PM, Mark <mark424x@yahoo.com> wrote: > Just a thought, can you put your dog in your dink offshore, take him/her for a ride during fueling (or in a worst case charter a slightly large boat for a couple hours for a doggie ride), or make friends with someone at anchor who will keep an eye on your dog during fueling. > > Seems easier/cheaper to keep the dog off the dock than getting that much fuel delivered offshore. > > One last question, are there any 3rd party quarantine services? It would seem that there would be a business opportunity and someone may have filled the need. Maybe I'm too used to all the ads in Los Angeles for pet spas, dog ranches, etc. > > --- On Sun, 11/23/08, Ken Williams <kenw@talkspot.com> wrote: >> firm in their position on dogs. At a minimum we will need >> to stop for fuel >> in Australia. According to the customs people, I will need >> to arrange >> offshore delivery. They don't even want us at a fuel >> dock with the dog on >> board! If anchored, I need to pay an inspector to arriv > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/passagemaking-under-power > > To unsubscribe send email to > passagemaking-under-power-request@lists.samurai.com with the word > UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else in the subject or body of the message. > > Passagemaking Under Power and PUP are trademarks of Water World Productions, formerly known as Trawler World Productions.
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Ken Williams
Mon, Nov 24, 2008 12:38 AM

Ross said: "... Hate to sound negative but why bring a dog??.."

Our dog Shelby has traveled over 20,000 miles with us. Our kids are grown
and out of the house, so she is our family. When the day comes that she is
no longer around, we won't get a new dog until our cruising in
dog-unfriendly places is over, but until that day, we have no choice.
Leaving a dog her age alone while we go gallivanting around the world just
wouldn't be right.

-Ken W
Sans Souci, Nordhavn 68

Ross said: "... Hate to sound negative but why bring a dog??.." Our dog Shelby has traveled over 20,000 miles with us. Our kids are grown and out of the house, so she is our family. When the day comes that she is no longer around, we won't get a new dog until our cruising in dog-unfriendly places is over, but until that day, we have no choice. Leaving a dog her age alone while we go gallivanting around the world just wouldn't be right. -Ken W Sans Souci, Nordhavn 68
KW
Ken Williams
Mon, Nov 24, 2008 12:48 AM

Mark said: "... Just a thought, can you put your dog in your dink offshore,
take him/her for a ride during fueling..."

That's a great question Mark, and a good idea! Duh... why didn't I think of
that. As we get closer, I'll ask the Australian authorities. As to private
kennels for quarantining the dog, it's also a good idea, but nothing I've
read has referred to any. If I speak with the people in immigration again,
I'll ask.

New rules were recently published for Australian quarantine, and they seem
slightly more forgiving than the prior rules.

Here are the latest rules:

http://www.daffa.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0013/112045/category-4-inform
ation-package.pdf

By jumping through a few hoops it is possible to qualify for a 30 day
quarantine. It's still more than we can put our dog through, but probably
reasonable for younger dogs.

-Ken W
Sans Souci, Nordhavn 68

Mark said: "... Just a thought, can you put your dog in your dink offshore, take him/her for a ride during fueling..." That's a great question Mark, and a good idea! Duh... why didn't I think of that. As we get closer, I'll ask the Australian authorities. As to private kennels for quarantining the dog, it's also a good idea, but nothing I've read has referred to any. If I speak with the people in immigration again, I'll ask. New rules were recently published for Australian quarantine, and they seem slightly more forgiving than the prior rules. Here are the latest rules: http://www.daffa.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0013/112045/category-4-inform ation-package.pdf By jumping through a few hoops it is possible to qualify for a 30 day quarantine. It's still more than we can put our dog through, but probably reasonable for younger dogs. -Ken W Sans Souci, Nordhavn 68
DB
DIANNE BOSTON
Mon, Nov 24, 2008 3:43 AM

If you go to this web address it will explain everything you need to know
about bring animals into Australia. www.daff.gov.au/aqis/cat-dogs

If you go to this web address it will explain everything you need to know about bring animals into Australia. www.daff.gov.au/aqis/cat-dogs
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Ross Anderson
Mon, Nov 24, 2008 1:10 PM

Ken, I understand but to go that far and not enjoy that spectacular
country doesn't make sense either. Delay the trip and short haul until
its time to spread the ashes over the sea as we did once. God Bless -
Ross

On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Ken Williams kenw@talkspot.com wrote:

Ross said: "... Hate to sound negative but why bring a dog??.."

Our dog Shelby has traveled over 20,000 miles with us. Our kids are grown
and out of the house, so she is our family. When the day comes that she is
no longer around, we won't get a new dog until our cruising in
dog-unfriendly places is over, but until that day, we have no choice.
Leaving a dog her age alone while we go gallivanting around the world just
wouldn't be right.

-Ken W
Sans Souci, Nordhavn 68


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Ken, I understand but to go that far and not enjoy that spectacular country doesn't make sense either. Delay the trip and short haul until its time to spread the ashes over the sea as we did once. God Bless - Ross On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 7:38 PM, Ken Williams <kenw@talkspot.com> wrote: > Ross said: "... Hate to sound negative but why bring a dog??.." > > Our dog Shelby has traveled over 20,000 miles with us. Our kids are grown > and out of the house, so she is our family. When the day comes that she is > no longer around, we won't get a new dog until our cruising in > dog-unfriendly places is over, but until that day, we have no choice. > Leaving a dog her age alone while we go gallivanting around the world just > wouldn't be right. > > -Ken W > Sans Souci, Nordhavn 68 > _______________________________________________ > http://lists.samurai.com/mailman/listinfo/passagemaking-under-power > > To unsubscribe send email to > passagemaking-under-power-request@lists.samurai.com with the word > UNSUBSCRIBE and nothing else in the subject or body of the message. > > Passagemaking Under Power and PUP are trademarks of Water World Productions, formerly known as Trawler World Productions.