Yo Bubba Dudes!, I've re-published the John Fluketutorial *Calibration Philosophy and Practice*  Circa 1980.  It describes how all the basicelectrical standards are derived and measured.  It is a 14 MbytePDF.  If anyone is interested in a copy please send me an *original* emailoff list for a copy Regards, Perrier

Perry kindly shared it with me a week or so ago. Its a really good read. Enjoy and thanks Perry. Regards Paul On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 6:00 PM Perry Sandeen via time-nuts < time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > Yo Bubba Dudes!, > I've re-published the John Fluketutorial *Calibration Philosophy and > Practice* Circa 1980. > > It describes how all the basicelectrical standards are derived and > measured. It is a 14 MbytePDF. If anyone is interested in a copy please > send me an *original* emailoff list for a copy > > Regards, > Perrier > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > and follow the instructions there. >

It is available here: <https://archive.org/details/Calibration-PhilosophyInPractice> This is the first edition (1980) and is almost completely out of date regarding current metrology techniques. The time and frequency chapter (17) is only 5 pages long and dedicated to the time transfer using the Fluke VLF receiver/comparator. The second edition (1994) is a bit more theoretical. On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 2:43 AM paul swed <paulswedb@gmail.com> wrote: > > Perry kindly shared it with me a week or so ago. Its a really good read. > Enjoy and thanks Perry. > Regards > Paul > > On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 6:00 PM Perry Sandeen via time-nuts < > time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > > > Yo Bubba Dudes!, > > I've re-published the John Fluketutorial *Calibration Philosophy and > > Practice* Circa 1980. > > > > It describes how all the basicelectrical standards are derived and > > measured. It is a 14 MbytePDF. If anyone is interested in a copy please > > send me an *original* emailoff list for a copy > > > > Regards, > > Perrier > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to > > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > > and follow the instructions there. > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > and follow the instructions there.

Azelio A good point you make. From a slightly different perspective. The technologies that are in the document show up at Hamfests around the east coast of the US and with this book they make sense as to what they are and how they are used. It also turns out that many of the devices have very accurate resistors in them and somehow they have held tolerance over 60 years according to 5.5 digit HP meter. Some of the devices are obvious in function others are not so clear. But still a good read. Regards Paul On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 3:30 AM Azelio Boriani <azelio.boriani@gmail.com> wrote: > It is available here: > <https://archive.org/details/Calibration-PhilosophyInPractice> > This is the first edition (1980) and is almost completely out of date > regarding current metrology techniques. The time and frequency chapter > (17) is only 5 pages long and dedicated to the time transfer using the > Fluke VLF receiver/comparator. The second edition (1994) is a bit more > theoretical. > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 2:43 AM paul swed <paulswedb@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Perry kindly shared it with me a week or so ago. Its a really good read. > > Enjoy and thanks Perry. > > Regards > > Paul > > > > On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 6:00 PM Perry Sandeen via time-nuts < > > time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > > > > > Yo Bubba Dudes!, > > > I've re-published the John Fluketutorial *Calibration Philosophy and > > > Practice* Circa 1980. > > > > > > It describes how all the basicelectrical standards are derived and > > > measured. It is a 14 MbytePDF. If anyone is interested in a copy > please > > > send me an *original* emailoff list for a copy > > > > > > Regards, > > > Perrier > > > _______________________________________________ > > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > > > To unsubscribe, go to > > > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > > > and follow the instructions there. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > > and follow the instructions there. > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > and follow the instructions there. >

Indeed, and the 1980 edition might be the better choice if you're looking for circuits you can build. On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 6:00 PM paul swed <paulswedb@gmail.com> wrote: > > Azelio > A good point you make. From a slightly different perspective. The > technologies that are in the document show up at Hamfests around the east > coast of the US and with this book they make sense as to what they are and > how they are used. It also turns out that many of the devices have very > accurate resistors in them and somehow they have held tolerance over 60 > years according to 5.5 digit HP meter. > Some of the devices are obvious in function others are not so clear. But > still a good read. > Regards > Paul > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 3:30 AM Azelio Boriani <azelio.boriani@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > It is available here: > > <https://archive.org/details/Calibration-PhilosophyInPractice> > > This is the first edition (1980) and is almost completely out of date > > regarding current metrology techniques. The time and frequency chapter > > (17) is only 5 pages long and dedicated to the time transfer using the > > Fluke VLF receiver/comparator. The second edition (1994) is a bit more > > theoretical. > > > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 2:43 AM paul swed <paulswedb@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Perry kindly shared it with me a week or so ago. Its a really good read. > > > Enjoy and thanks Perry. > > > Regards > > > Paul > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 6:00 PM Perry Sandeen via time-nuts < > > > time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Yo Bubba Dudes!, > > > > I've re-published the John Fluketutorial *Calibration Philosophy and > > > > Practice* Circa 1980. > > > > > > > > It describes how all the basicelectrical standards are derived and > > > > measured. It is a 14 MbytePDF. If anyone is interested in a copy > > please > > > > send me an *original* emailoff list for a copy > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Perrier > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > > > > To unsubscribe, go to > > > > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > > > > and follow the instructions there. > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > > > To unsubscribe, go to > > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > > > and follow the instructions there. > > > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to > > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > > and follow the instructions there. > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > and follow the instructions there.

Azelio really just looking at what methods were used back then. That helps me understand what I am looking at at a hamfest. Can I use it and how. I have seen some very nice Gen Rad equipment at bargain prices. Unfortunately I already had the same Z bridge. But it was a really tempting price and unit was in mint condition. But there are many bridges and dividers that show up at $20 or less. So they just add to the test bench. Regards Paul. On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 3:00 PM Azelio Boriani <azelio.boriani@gmail.com> wrote: > Indeed, and the 1980 edition might be the better choice if you're > looking for circuits you can build. > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 6:00 PM paul swed <paulswedb@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Azelio > > A good point you make. From a slightly different perspective. The > > technologies that are in the document show up at Hamfests around the east > > coast of the US and with this book they make sense as to what they are > and > > how they are used. It also turns out that many of the devices have very > > accurate resistors in them and somehow they have held tolerance over 60 > > years according to 5.5 digit HP meter. > > Some of the devices are obvious in function others are not so clear. But > > still a good read. > > Regards > > Paul > > > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 3:30 AM Azelio Boriani <azelio.boriani@gmail.com > > > > wrote: > > > > > It is available here: > > > <https://archive.org/details/Calibration-PhilosophyInPractice> > > > This is the first edition (1980) and is almost completely out of date > > > regarding current metrology techniques. The time and frequency chapter > > > (17) is only 5 pages long and dedicated to the time transfer using the > > > Fluke VLF receiver/comparator. The second edition (1994) is a bit more > > > theoretical. > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 2:43 AM paul swed <paulswedb@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Perry kindly shared it with me a week or so ago. Its a really good > read. > > > > Enjoy and thanks Perry. > > > > Regards > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 6:00 PM Perry Sandeen via time-nuts < > > > > time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Yo Bubba Dudes!, > > > > > I've re-published the John Fluketutorial *Calibration Philosophy > and > > > > > Practice* Circa 1980. > > > > > > > > > > It describes how all the basicelectrical standards are derived and > > > > > measured. It is a 14 MbytePDF. If anyone is interested in a copy > > > please > > > > > send me an *original* emailoff list for a copy > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Perrier > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > > > > > To unsubscribe, go to > > > > > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > > > > > and follow the instructions there. > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > > > > To unsubscribe, go to > > > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > > > > and follow the instructions there. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > > > To unsubscribe, go to > > > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > > > and follow the instructions there. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > > and follow the instructions there. > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > and follow the instructions there. >

Looking through piles of manuals I found proceedings of frequency and time and frequency meetings I attended as part of my job, between 75 and 79. Each at least an inch thick. Is some one archiving the proceedings. Like them to find a home. Contact me off list Bert Kehren In a message dated 11/26/2019 8:39:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, paulswedb@gmail.com writes: Azelio really just looking at what methods were used back then. That helps me understand what I am looking at at a hamfest. Can I use it and how. I have seen some very nice Gen Rad equipment at bargain prices. Unfortunately I already had the same Z bridge. But it was a really tempting price and unit was in mint condition. But there are many bridges and dividers that show up at $20 or less. So they just add to the test bench. Regards Paul. On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 3:00 PM Azelio Boriani <azelio.boriani@gmail.com> wrote: > Indeed, and the 1980 edition might be the better choice if you're > looking for circuits you can build. > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 6:00 PM paul swed <paulswedb@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Azelio > > A good point you make. From a slightly different perspective. The > > technologies that are in the document show up at Hamfests around the east > > coast of the US and with this book they make sense as to what they are > and > > how they are used. It also turns out that many of the devices have very > > accurate resistors in them and somehow they have held tolerance over 60 > > years according to 5.5 digit HP meter. > > Some of the devices are obvious in function others are not so clear. But > > still a good read. > > Regards > > Paul > > > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 3:30 AM Azelio Boriani <azelio.boriani@gmail.com > > > > wrote: > > > > > It is available here: > > > <https://archive.org/details/Calibration-PhilosophyInPractice> > > > This is the first edition (1980) and is almost completely out of date > > > regarding current metrology techniques. The time and frequency chapter > > > (17) is only 5 pages long and dedicated to the time transfer using the > > > Fluke VLF receiver/comparator. The second edition (1994) is a bit more > > > theoretical. > > > > > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 2:43 AM paul swed <paulswedb@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Perry kindly shared it with me a week or so ago. Its a really good > read. > > > > Enjoy and thanks Perry. > > > > Regards > > > > Paul > > > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 6:00 PM Perry Sandeen via time-nuts < > > > > time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Yo Bubba Dudes!, > > > > > I've re-published the John Fluketutorial *Calibration Philosophy > and > > > > > Practice*  Circa 1980. > > > > > > > > > >  It describes how all the basicelectrical standards are derived and > > > > > measured.  It is a 14 MbytePDF.  If anyone is interested in a copy > > > please > > > > > send me an *original* emailoff list for a copy > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Perrier > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > > > > > To unsubscribe, go to > > > > > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > > > > > and follow the instructions there. > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > > > > To unsubscribe, go to > > > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > > > > and follow the instructions there. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > > > To unsubscribe, go to > > > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > > > and follow the instructions there. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > > and follow the instructions there. > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > and follow the instructions there. > _______________________________________________ time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com and follow the instructions there.

Hi Both the Frequency Control Symposium and the PTTI proceedings are archived by their respective parent organizations. DVD’s are available with the old versions on them. The papers done by NIST are on the NIST website. Much of the rest is protected / restricted. Bob > On Nov 27, 2019, at 7:58 AM, ew via time-nuts <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > > Looking through piles of manuals I found proceedings of frequency and time and frequency meetings I attended as part of my job, between 75 and 79. Each at least an inch thick. Is some one archiving the proceedings. Like them to find a home. Contact me off list > > Bert Kehren > > > In a message dated 11/26/2019 8:39:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, paulswedb@gmail.com writes: > > Azelio really just looking at what methods were used back then. That helps > me understand what I am looking at at a hamfest. Can I use it and how. I > have seen some very nice Gen Rad equipment at bargain prices. Unfortunately > I already had the same Z bridge. But it was a really tempting price and > unit was in mint condition. > But there are many bridges and dividers that show up at $20 or less. > So they just add to the test bench. > Regards > Paul. > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 3:00 PM Azelio Boriani <azelio.boriani@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Indeed, and the 1980 edition might be the better choice if you're >> looking for circuits you can build. >> >> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 6:00 PM paul swed <paulswedb@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Azelio >>> A good point you make. From a slightly different perspective. The >>> technologies that are in the document show up at Hamfests around the east >>> coast of the US and with this book they make sense as to what they are >> and >>> how they are used. It also turns out that many of the devices have very >>> accurate resistors in them and somehow they have held tolerance over 60 >>> years according to 5.5 digit HP meter. >>> Some of the devices are obvious in function others are not so clear. But >>> still a good read. >>> Regards >>> Paul >>> >>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 3:30 AM Azelio Boriani <azelio.boriani@gmail.com >>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> It is available here: >>>> <https://archive.org/details/Calibration-PhilosophyInPractice> >>>> This is the first edition (1980) and is almost completely out of date >>>> regarding current metrology techniques. The time and frequency chapter >>>> (17) is only 5 pages long and dedicated to the time transfer using the >>>> Fluke VLF receiver/comparator. The second edition (1994) is a bit more >>>> theoretical. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 2:43 AM paul swed <paulswedb@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Perry kindly shared it with me a week or so ago. Its a really good >> read. >>>>> Enjoy and thanks Perry. >>>>> Regards >>>>> Paul >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 6:00 PM Perry Sandeen via time-nuts < >>>>> time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yo Bubba Dudes!, >>>>>> I've re-published the John Fluketutorial *Calibration Philosophy >> and >>>>>> Practice* Circa 1980. >>>>>> >>>>>> It describes how all the basicelectrical standards are derived and >>>>>> measured. It is a 14 MbytePDF. If anyone is interested in a copy >>>> please >>>>>> send me an *original* emailoff list for a copy >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Perrier >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >>>>>> To unsubscribe, go to >>>>>> http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com >>>>>> and follow the instructions there. >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >>>>> To unsubscribe, go to >>>> http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com >>>>> and follow the instructions there. >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >>>> To unsubscribe, go to >>>> http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com >>>> and follow the instructions there. >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >>> To unsubscribe, go to >> http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com >>> and follow the instructions there. >> >> _______________________________________________ >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com >> To unsubscribe, go to >> http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com >> and follow the instructions there. >> > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > and follow the instructions there. > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > and follow the instructions there.

https://tycho.usno.navy.mil/ptti.html archived 2012 and earlier PTTI papers. That site seems to be unavailable now, but the Internet Archive still holds copies. Circa 2013 PTTI and ION merged, new papers are paywalled. On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 11:20 AM Bob kb8tq <kb8tq@n1k.org> wrote: > Hi > > Both the Frequency Control Symposium and the PTTI proceedings are archived > by their respective parent organizations. DVD’s are available with the old > versions > on them. The papers done by NIST are on the NIST website. Much of the rest > is > protected / restricted. > > Bob > > > On Nov 27, 2019, at 7:58 AM, ew via time-nuts <time-nuts@lists.febo.com> > wrote: > > > > Looking through piles of manuals I found proceedings of frequency and > time and frequency meetings I attended as part of my job, between 75 and > 79. Each at least an inch thick. Is some one archiving the proceedings. > Like them to find a home. Contact me off list > > > > Bert Kehren > > > > > > In a message dated 11/26/2019 8:39:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, > paulswedb@gmail.com writes: > > > > Azelio really just looking at what methods were used back then. That > helps > > me understand what I am looking at at a hamfest. Can I use it and how. I > > have seen some very nice Gen Rad equipment at bargain prices. > Unfortunately > > I already had the same Z bridge. But it was a really tempting price and > > unit was in mint condition. > > But there are many bridges and dividers that show up at $20 or less. > > So they just add to the test bench. > > Regards > > Paul. > > > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 3:00 PM Azelio Boriani <azelio.boriani@gmail.com > > > > wrote: > > > >> Indeed, and the 1980 edition might be the better choice if you're > >> looking for circuits you can build. > >> > >> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 6:00 PM paul swed <paulswedb@gmail.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> Azelio > >>> A good point you make. From a slightly different perspective. The > >>> technologies that are in the document show up at Hamfests around the > east > >>> coast of the US and with this book they make sense as to what they are > >> and > >>> how they are used. It also turns out that many of the devices have very > >>> accurate resistors in them and somehow they have held tolerance over 60 > >>> years according to 5.5 digit HP meter. > >>> Some of the devices are obvious in function others are not so clear. > But > >>> still a good read. > >>> Regards > >>> Paul > >>> > >>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 3:30 AM Azelio Boriani < > azelio.boriani@gmail.com > >>> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> It is available here: > >>>> <https://archive.org/details/Calibration-PhilosophyInPractice> > >>>> This is the first edition (1980) and is almost completely out of date > >>>> regarding current metrology techniques. The time and frequency chapter > >>>> (17) is only 5 pages long and dedicated to the time transfer using the > >>>> Fluke VLF receiver/comparator. The second edition (1994) is a bit more > >>>> theoretical. > >>>> > >>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 2:43 AM paul swed <paulswedb@gmail.com> > wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Perry kindly shared it with me a week or so ago. Its a really good > >> read. > >>>>> Enjoy and thanks Perry. > >>>>> Regards > >>>>> Paul > >>>>> > >>>>> On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 6:00 PM Perry Sandeen via time-nuts < > >>>>> time-nuts@lists.febo.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Yo Bubba Dudes!, > >>>>>> I've re-published the John Fluketutorial *Calibration Philosophy > >> and > >>>>>> Practice* Circa 1980. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> It describes how all the basicelectrical standards are derived and > >>>>>> measured. It is a 14 MbytePDF. If anyone is interested in a copy > >>>> please > >>>>>> send me an *original* emailoff list for a copy > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>> Perrier > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > >>>>>> To unsubscribe, go to > >>>>>> http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > >>>>>> and follow the instructions there. > >>>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > >>>>> To unsubscribe, go to > >>>> http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > >>>>> and follow the instructions there. > >>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > >>>> To unsubscribe, go to > >>>> http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > >>>> and follow the instructions there. > >>>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > >>> To unsubscribe, go to > >> http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > >>> and follow the instructions there. > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > >> To unsubscribe, go to > >> http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > >> and follow the instructions there. > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > > and follow the instructions there. > > _______________________________________________ > > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > > To unsubscribe, go to > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > > and follow the instructions there. > > > _______________________________________________ > time-nuts mailing list -- time-nuts@lists.febo.com > To unsubscribe, go to > http://lists.febo.com/mailman/listinfo/time-nuts_lists.febo.com > and follow the instructions there. >

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On Wed, 27 Nov 2019 12:01:56 -0600 Steven Sommars <stevesommarsntp@gmail.com> wrote: > https://tycho.usno.navy.mil/ptti.html archived 2012 and earlier PTTI > papers. That site seems to be unavailable now, but the Internet Archive > still holds copies. On Magnus' request, I put my copy online. You can find it at http://time.kinali.ch/ptti/ > Circa 2013 PTTI and ION merged, new papers are paywalled. <rant> And ION is the most *beep* publishing organisation I've ever seen. Even if you are member, you get only 12 papers to download per year. And apparently, they don't like giving universities access either. So, publishing at PTTI has basically become a black hole. As a scientist I have no incentive to publish there, because nobody will be ever able to read my paper. </rant> Attila Kinail -- Science is made up of so many things that appear obvious after they are explained. -- Pardot Kynes