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Terrypin
Fri, Jun 18, 2021 2:40 PM
I'm finding the six icons for different views quite handy. But remembering
which does what would be easier if they were in the more logical order of
CTRL + 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. Not 7, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9.
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I'm finding the six icons for different views quite handy. But remembering
which does what would be easier if they were in the more logical order of
CTRL + 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. Not 7, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9.
<http://forum.openscad.org/file/t3184/ViewIconSequence.jpg>
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Michael Möller
Fri, Jun 18, 2021 5:40 PM
I just hammer on them until I get a view I like. Never managed to remember
anything about them. well, except the perspective/orthagonal switch.
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fre. 18. jun. 2021 16.41 skrev Terrypin terrypingm@gmail.com:
I'm finding the six icons for different views quite handy. But remembering
which does what would be easier if they were in the more logical order of
CTRL + 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. Not 7, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9.
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I just hammer on them until I get a view I like. Never managed to remember
anything about them. well, except the perspective/orthagonal switch.
Michael, fra mobilen
fre. 18. jun. 2021 16.41 skrev Terrypin <terrypingm@gmail.com>:
> I'm finding the six icons for different views quite handy. But remembering
> which does what would be easier if they were in the more logical order of
> CTRL + 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. Not 7, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9.
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larry
Fri, Jun 18, 2021 6:57 PM
On Fri, 2021-06-18 at 07:40 -0700, Terrypin wrote:
I'm finding the six icons for different views quite handy. But
remembering which does what would be easier if they were in the more
logical order of CTRL + 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. Not 7, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9.
If you're using the icons, why not just look at the icon itself? They
are pretty easy to figure out.
If you are using the keyboard, just remember, starting at CTRL+4, top,
bottom, left, right, front, back.
On Fri, 2021-06-18 at 07:40 -0700, Terrypin wrote:
> I'm finding the six icons for different views quite handy. But
> remembering which does what would be easier if they were in the more
> logical order of CTRL + 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9. Not 7, 4, 5, 6, 8, 9.
If you're using the icons, why not just look at the icon itself? They
are pretty easy to figure out.
If you are using the keyboard, just remember, starting at CTRL+4, top,
bottom, left, right, front, back.
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Terrypin
Fri, Jun 18, 2021 7:07 PM
I guess it's just a matter of personal preference and habit. Rather than
'look for icon, move mouse, click it', I'd find it faster to just tap the
keys. Easy enough if I memorise something like 'Top-Bottom, Left-Right,
Front-Back', *and *they were activated by Ctrl plus '4-5, 6-7, 8-9'.
Terry
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I guess it's just a matter of personal preference and habit. Rather than
'look for icon, move mouse, click it', I'd find it faster to just tap the
keys. Easy enough if I memorise something like 'Top-Bottom, Left-Right,
Front-Back', *and *they were activated by Ctrl plus '4-5, 6-7, 8-9'.
Terry
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Troberg
Sat, Jun 19, 2021 6:50 AM
Suggestion: Have the keys so that they make sense on the numpad arrows.
That would mean, in order: 6, 8, 2, 4, 1, 9.
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Suggestion: Have the keys so that they make sense on the numpad arrows.
That would mean, in order: 6, 8, 2, 4, 1, 9.
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Terrypin
Sat, Jun 19, 2021 9:41 AM
But that’s not the order they’re in ;-)
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But that’s not the order they’re in ;-)
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MichaelAtOz
Sat, Jun 19, 2021 11:11 AM
Plans are afoot to allow setting keyboard shortcuts, but resources are
limited.
I doubt there would be support for changes to the current, long-held,
default definitions.
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Plans are afoot to allow setting keyboard shortcuts, but resources are
limited.
I doubt there would be support for changes to the current, long-held,
default definitions.
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Terrypin
Sat, Jun 19, 2021 12:17 PM
The change I suggested would not need any remapping. Simply moving that
leftmost icon (Ctrl+4) to the correct position in the sequence: top, bottom,
left, right, front, back. At present it’s the only exception.
I’ve remapped mine (with an external tool, Macro Express Pro), to use the
Numpad keys. As I’m new to OpenSCAD I don’t yet have the habit and ‘muscle
memory’ of long term users.
For anyone who considers similar remapping, I was warned that Shift+Ctrl
plus the Numpad keys are “reserved for Windows features”. (I already have
Ctrl with the Numpad keys assigned to other tasks.) But so far I’ve seen no
negative consequences.
Terry
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The change I suggested would not need any remapping. Simply moving that
leftmost icon (Ctrl+4) to the correct position in the sequence: top, bottom,
left, right, front, back. At present it’s the only exception.
I’ve remapped mine (with an external tool, Macro Express Pro), to use the
Numpad keys. As I’m new to OpenSCAD I don’t yet have the habit and ‘muscle
memory’ of long term users.
For anyone who considers similar remapping, I was warned that Shift+Ctrl
plus the Numpad keys are “reserved for Windows features”. (I already have
Ctrl with the Numpad keys assigned to other tasks.) But so far I’ve seen no
negative consequences.
Terry
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lar3ry
Sat, Jun 19, 2021 1:27 PM
But that’s not the order they’re in ;-)
EDIT: That was a reply to lar3ry, not to myself.
Terrypin wrote
> But that’s not the order they’re in ;-)
> EDIT: That was a reply to lar3ry, not to myself.
But that IS the order they're in if you are using the keyboard.
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MichaelAtOz
Sat, Jun 19, 2021 1:43 PM
There are many images, in the wild, with it as is, so there is no good reason to make all that history invalid.
It is good to have new ideas from new users, but...backward compatibility.
the correct position in the sequence: top, bottom, left, right, front, back
For your definition of 'correct'. The current situation is approaching a decade old.
From: Terrypin [mailto:terrypingm@gmail.com]
Sent: Sat, 19 Jun 2021 22:18
To: discuss@lists.openscad.org
Subject: [OpenSCAD] Re: Minor bug or odd design?
The change I suggested would not need any remapping. Simply moving that leftmost icon (Ctrl+4) to the correct position in the sequence: top, bottom, left, right, front, back. At present it’s the only exception.
I’ve remapped mine (with an external tool, Macro Express Pro), to use the Numpad keys. As I’m new to OpenSCAD I don’t yet have the habit and ‘muscle memory’ of long term users.
For anyone who considers similar remapping, I was warned that Shift+Ctrl plus the Numpad keys are “reserved for Windows features”. (I already have Ctrl with the Numpad keys assigned to other tasks.) But so far I’ve seen no negative consequences.
Terry
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There are many images, in the wild, with it as is, so there is no good reason to make all that history invalid.
It is good to have new ideas from new users, but...backward compatibility.
> the correct position in the sequence: top, bottom, left, right, front, back
For your definition of 'correct'. The current situation is approaching a decade old.
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Sent: Sat, 19 Jun 2021 22:18
To: discuss@lists.openscad.org
Subject: [OpenSCAD] Re: Minor bug or odd design?
The change I suggested would not need any remapping. Simply moving that leftmost icon (Ctrl+4) to the correct position in the sequence: top, bottom, left, right, front, back. At present it’s the only exception.
I’ve remapped mine (with an external tool, Macro Express Pro), to use the Numpad keys. As I’m new to OpenSCAD I don’t yet have the habit and ‘muscle memory’ of long term users.
For anyone who considers similar remapping, I was warned that Shift+Ctrl plus the Numpad keys are “reserved for Windows features”. (I already have Ctrl with the Numpad keys assigned to other tasks.) But so far I’ve seen no negative consequences.
Terry
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lar3ry
Sat, Jun 19, 2021 1:54 PM
Suggestion: Have the keys so that they make sense on the numpad arrows.
That would mean, in order: 6, 8, 2, 4, 1, 9.
???
So: right, back, front, left, bottom, top?
or is that something else?
I think better, assuming a user has a numpad, would be either;
4, 6, 2, 8, 9, 3
giving: left, right, back, front, top, bottom
Best of all,of course, would be the ability to map it to whatever works for
you.
I'd tackle it myself, but at my age, I really don't feel like learning yet
another language.
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Troberg wrote
> Suggestion: Have the keys so that they make sense on the numpad arrows.
> That would mean, in order: 6, 8, 2, 4, 1, 9.
???
So: right, back, front, left, bottom, top?
or is that something else?
I think better, assuming a user has a numpad, would be either;
4, 6, 2, 8, 9, 3
giving: left, right, back, front, top, bottom
Best of all,of course, would be the ability to map it to whatever works for
you.
I'd tackle it myself, but at my age, I really don't feel like learning yet
another language.
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Terrypin
Sat, Jun 19, 2021 2:16 PM
Starting with Top, I chose these, all accompanied by Ctrl+Shift with my left
hand:
8 = Top, 2 = Bottom, 4 = Left, 6 = Right, 1 = Front, 9 = Back
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Starting with Top, I chose these, all accompanied by Ctrl+Shift with my left
hand:
8 = Top, 2 = Bottom, 4 = Left, 6 = Right, 1 = Front, 9 = Back
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lar3ry
Sat, Jun 19, 2021 7:08 PM
Starting with Top, I chose these, all accompanied by Ctrl+Shift with my
left
hand:
8 = Top, 2 = Bottom, 4 = Left, 6 = Right, 1 = Front, 9 = Back
I gather it works well for you.
The reason I suggested my way was that 9 and 3 are also (Pg)up and (Pg)down.
That is, if I had a numpad.
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Terrypin wrote
> Starting with Top, I chose these, all accompanied by Ctrl+Shift with my
> left
> hand:
>
> 8 = Top, 2 = Bottom, 4 = Left, 6 = Right, 1 = Front, 9 = Back
I gather it works well for you.
The reason I suggested my way was that 9 and 3 are also (Pg)up and (Pg)down.
That is, if I had a numpad.
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Troberg
Sat, Jun 19, 2021 7:46 PM
Suggestion: Have the keys so that they make sense on the numpad arrows.
That would mean, in order: 6, 8, 2, 4, 1, 9.
???
So: right, back, front, left, bottom, top?
or is that something else?
Basically, the arrows on the numpad would point in the direction the eye is
looking from, the side of the object that the viewer would be.
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lar3ry wrote
> Troberg wrote
>> Suggestion: Have the keys so that they make sense on the numpad arrows.
>> That would mean, in order: 6, 8, 2, 4, 1, 9.
>
> ???
> So: right, back, front, left, bottom, top?
> or is that something else?
Basically, the arrows on the numpad would point in the direction the eye is
looking from, the side of the object that the viewer would be.
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Terrypin
Sat, Jun 19, 2021 9:40 PM
Yes, those last two, Front and Back, were the ones I hesitated over. Number
ONE, up front? Two diagonal extremes, 1 and 9 retaining some symmetry? The
label significances were tempting, but I’d already concluded that internal
debate about the other four, which contradict the direction of the arrows!
Anyway, I’m half expecting that ‘reserved for Windows’ thing to bite me at
some point soon. If so will have to either search for a fresh set of six
‘meaningful’ hotkeys or learn to love the existing OpenSCAD configuration.
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Yes, those last two, Front and Back, were the ones I hesitated over. Number
ONE, up front? Two diagonal extremes, 1 and 9 retaining some symmetry? The
label significances were tempting, but I’d already concluded that internal
debate about the other four, which contradict the direction of the arrows!
Anyway, I’m half expecting that ‘reserved for Windows’ thing to bite me at
some point soon. If so will have to either search for a fresh set of six
‘meaningful’ hotkeys or learn to love the existing OpenSCAD configuration.
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